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Family Forum / Parenting / Mothers / September 2007Saw my surgeon today (eye update)
I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why the procedure had been abandoned. He then took a look in my eye. 3 things to note. Firstly there was a small pit in my lens where the laser had scuffed it. Thats ok, its pretty normal to get scuff marks from but it means that when she said she hadn't started it wasn't the entire truth. True she hadn't started actually cutting the capsule but only cos the laser got my lens instead. It actually makes me feel really cross - perhaps as my surgeon said she didn't want to worry me but that is no excuse. Then he said there are two other things going on - firstly the thickening of the capsule which is what I went for the laser treatment for But also my lens has developed what he called 'glistenings'. He doesn't think they are visually significant but hes not very happy about them. He is going to call the manufacturer. It means that he is going to delay doing the laser work for 3 months in case the glistenings get significantly worse. Theres a very small chance he might need to replace the lens - which is not an option I would choose unless I really had absolutely no choice because its much harder and riskier than original cataract surgery. If he did the laser work first it would make it much riskier to explant. So its very mixed really. I'm very happy with the way he handled my complaint. He wasn't defensive, he was very open and apologised a few times. .I'm not sure what happens with patient liason now as they said before this that they are investigating it. I am very unhappy that I feel I was effectively lied to but he know that. And as for my poor eye - well I've lost some vision since July so I can only infer that that will continue until my laser treatment in december. That treatment will be carried out by my cataract surgeon this time. Sarah <snip> "kiticat" >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He >apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > only infer that that will continue until my laser treatment in december. > That treatment will be carried out by my cataract surgeon this time. So glad that appointment is done, and he was apologetic. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Still not a nice feeling. I hope they manage to get the glistening sorted. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marc >> So its very mixed really. I'm very happy with the way he handled my >> complaint. He wasn't defensive, he was very open and apologised a few [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Marc Its not a nice feeling - you're right. I'm hoping that the glistenings won't become signficant enough to need sorting. That would be major eye surgery. I don't want to go there. Thanks Marc. Sarah >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He >apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > only infer that that will continue until my laser treatment in december. > That treatment will be carried out by my cataract surgeon this time. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<Sarah>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like your surgeon is doing what he can, but it is still a royal pain that that other one didn't do what she should. I wonder if she realized she was in over her head and cut off things before she made it worse. I guess we'll never know, but it still stinks that you now must wait so long before you see what the glistening and potential lens replacement status is. Hang in there. You are always in my thoughts. -=Aula >> So its very mixed really. I'm very happy with the way he handled my >> complaint. He wasn't defensive, he was very open and apologised a few [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -=Aula Thank you Aula. I really appreciate that. I'm sure thats what happened - my surgeon said that she had found it to be a difficult one to do. I'm certainly glad she didn't proceed further but I really would have rather she had been up front with me. It does stink that I have to wait so long but clinically its better to wait and see how the glistening progresses. It will be interesting to hear what the manufacturers of the lens have to say about it..... Sarah >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He >apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Sarah Glad the dr. was apolegetic. Sorry it has to continue to drag on. I will send you very healing-ish vibes that the glistening resolves itself and that the major surgery will not be required. (((hugs))) Teri >>> So its very mixed really. I'm very happy with the way he handled my >> complaint. He wasn't defensive, he was very open and apologised a few [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the major surgery will not be required. (((hugs))) > Teri Thanks Teri - it really is turning into a bit of a saga isn't it. tbh I don't expect it will come to major surgery, I'm hopeful that is an unlikely worst case scenario. Sarah >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. >He apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Sarah {{{{{Sarah}}}}} I'm glad he was apologetic, but I also know it still stinks.... I still feel bad about the issues I had with my own Dr. BadGuy. I hope the glistening issue doesn't lead to anything more intense for you! Nan, whiny lately about my horrible eyesight but realize I should always be thankful the worst of mine is fixed with corrective lenses. >> So its very mixed really. I'm very happy with the way he handled my >> complaint. He wasn't defensive, he was very open and apologised a few [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I'm glad he was apologetic, but I also know it still stinks.... I > still feel bad about the issues I had with my own Dr. BadGuy. Your experience was really traumatic :( > I hope the glistening issue doesn't lead to anything more intense for > you! I think that the chances are pretty slim. I've decided that I'm not going to worry about it - its just sensible to delay the laser treatment just in case. Although its causing me some problems its only 3 months to wait (and we know how quickly christmas comes around!) I have to live with my eyes for the rest of my life - theres no point in causing irreversible problems for the sake of waiting a bit. > Nan, whiny lately about my horrible eyesight but realize I should > always be thankful the worst of mine is fixed with corrective lenses. {{{Nan}}} modern life is so demanding - needing good eye sight and I know its a pain when its poor. I have a friend who is really upset that she is becoming more far sighted as she ages (though it is rather tactless of her to talk endlessly about it to me atm!!) Sarah > I think that the chances are pretty slim. I've decided that I'm not going > to worry about it - its just sensible to delay the laser treatment just in > case. Although its causing me some problems its only 3 months to wait (and > we know how quickly christmas comes around!) I have to live with my eyes > for the rest of my life - theres no point in causing irreversible problems > for the sake of waiting a bit. Very sensible. I hope you are always able to recall that attitude when frustration or whatever attempts to flood you. -Aula >> I think that the chances are pretty slim. I've decided that I'm not going >> to worry about it - its just sensible to delay the laser treatment just in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Aula I hope so too!! >I think that the chances are pretty slim. I've decided that I'm not >going to worry about it - its just sensible to delay the laser treatment >just in case. Although its causing me some problems its only 3 months to >wait (and we know how quickly christmas comes around!) I have to live >with my eyes for the rest of my life - theres no point in causing >irreversible problems for the sake of waiting a bit. Good thought. I know I sometimes get antsy for results. I'll remember this next time I am :-) Nan >> I think that the chances are pretty slim. I've decided that I'm not >> going to worry about it - its just sensible to delay the laser treatment [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Nan :) >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He >apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > only infer that that will continue until my laser treatment in december. > That treatment will be carried out by my cataract surgeon this time. So many doctors won't tell the truth because they don't want to look "weak" or "incapable" and it would be so much better if they would just be honest when they are in over their heads. I am glad your doctor is going to work to make things better but that you are going to have such a wait. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Cindi > Sarah >> I was effectively lied to but he know that. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > or "incapable" and it would be so much better if they would just be honest > when they are in over their heads. absolutely just a simple true statement of the facts goes such a long way. > I am glad your doctor is going to work to make things better but that you > are going to have such a wait. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> Sarah Thank you Cindi. Sarah > So many doctors won't tell the truth because they don't want to look "weak" > or "incapable" and it would be so much better if they would just be honest > when they are in over their heads. And leave themselves open to to malpractice lawsuits. Never happen. :-(  Signature-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ For your listening pleasure: http://www.am1500.com/pcast/80509.mp3 -- from the MN State Fair, 8-29-07 >> So many doctors won't tell the truth because they don't want to look >> "weak" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And leave themselves open to to malpractice lawsuits. Never happen. :-( You're right Barb but a little honesty might go a long way toward decreasing the number of lawsuits people feel obligated to file. KWIM? Maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part. I have had a couple of doctors look at me and tell me that they have never had a patient with "hereditary angioedema" at least they have told me before they treated me. Cindi >>> So many doctors won't tell the truth because they don't want to look >>> "weak" [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and tell me that they have never had a patient with "hereditary angioedema" > at least they have told me before they treated me. Actually, there is some evidence that relationships between care providers and patients can affect whether or not a malpractice lawsuit will be filed in the event of a bad outcome. When patients feel like their care providers have been straight with them, and that they have participated in the decision making in a meaningful way, they tend to be less likely to file lawsuits. Best wishes, Ericka > >> In article <e0SKi.29739$eY.13...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Best wishes, > Ericka You've beaten me to my response :) Caledonia > Actually, there is some evidence that relationships > between care providers and patients can affect whether or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Best wishes, > Ericka I whole heartedly agree with this. Sarah >> So many doctors won't tell the truth because they don't want to look "weak" >> or "incapable" and it would be so much better if they would just be honest >> when they are in over their heads. > > And leave themselves open to to malpractice lawsuits. Never happen. :-( I dunno about this. Yesterday I felt that my surgeon was fully open and honest about things and he didn't try and cover up what happened. In fact he pointed out the small area of damage on my lens that the other doctor had done when he could have kept quiet about it. I really respect him for that. Sarah >I was ridiculously nervous this morning. I needn't have worried though. He >apologised as soon as I went in. We talked over what had happened and why [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Sarah Sarah, you have been very brave through this whole thing. Good for you for finding out what was going on w/ your eye. >> And as for my poor eye - well I've lost some vision since July so I can >> only infer that that will continue until my laser treatment in december. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Sarah, you have been very brave through this whole thing. Good for you for > finding out what was going on w/ your eye. dunno about brave I couldnt even form half a thought about it for 6 weeks or so without getting really upset so I shoved it to the back of my mind til I was more able to deal with it. Its just a matter of biding my time now and enjoying life. I have to trust that it will all end well. :) Sarah |
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