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Can I Smack Him Now???

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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 17 Nov 2007 16:16 GMT
LOL... not even talking about Chewy this time!

I'm at the boys' house, doing my laundry.  I had to drive Chewy to
work at 7am, so I figured I'd bring the laundry into town and do it
here (cheaper than the laundra-mat).  The boys were all asleep (or so
I thought), so I figured I'd just do my laundry out here (washer and
dryer are on the carport) and not disturb them.  About halfway through
the first load, one of YS's housemates - *not* TF - came out to smoke
a cigarette.  I asked if I'd woken him up, and he said no.  Then he
turned around and went back in.  No invitation into the house, no
nuthin'.

Now I've been here 3+ hours, standing on the carport, my laptop
plugged in so I can piggy-back on their wireless connection while
laundry's running.

My feet and legs are KILLING me!  My back's not doing too badly, but I
think that's 'cuz I had 2 "dirty bong waters" last night... hehehe...
took some of the kinks out of my shoulders.  They don't feel like
rocks this morning.

But what the hey?!?!?!  My grandparents and Mom would have knocked the
living daylights out of any of us who'd left someone standing on the
carport for 3+ hours!  This boy has absolutely NO manners - and he's
the one who's *MY* age.  YS and TF would *never* do anything like
that.

Oh, and as for Chewy....

He talked to me a bit last night about all the stuff we've been going
through, how he feels like he can't stop screwing up, how he feels
like I'm distancing myself from him (duh!), and how much the things
his counselor has been telling him bothers him.  He doesn't want to
hear it.  He doesn't want to fix himself, 'cause it hurts too much to
do a truthful self-inventory.  I told him to stop focusing on not
screwing up, and to focus instead on doing the things he'd done
during  the 15 good days we had just over a month ago... which were
the reason I started staying at home again.  At least I was smart
enough to leave half my stuff at my friend's house.

He started getting all down at the mouth about it, and I told him to
go read that book the counselor gave him, and to focus on the 2.5 page
list of things husbands should do to improve their marriages.

Then later, after I'd had those 2 dirty bong waters (absolutely
DELICIOUS! ... and kick-butt! - literally... lol), I asked him to
think about why 1) he doesn't do the assignments his counselor gives
him and 2) he gets so upset about what his counselor tells him.

The damn man!  He's a good man - when he's not all wound up in all his
old, old, OLD baggage.  I wish he'd just let it all go.

Anyhow.... I'm standing out here, bored out of my skull 'cause NOONE's
posting today.  LOL... I've got the last load in the washer and my
reds in the dryer, so I'll only be here another hour or so.

Kitten
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 17 Nov 2007 18:18 GMT
> LOL... not even talking about Chewy this time!
>
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> the one who's *MY* age.  YS and TF would *never* do anything like
> that.

My Mama would still give me what for if she thought I was treating someone
so shabbily. ANYONE. Related or not.

> Oh, and as for Chewy....
>
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> think about why 1) he doesn't do the assignments his counselor gives
> him and 2) he gets so upset about what his counselor tells him.

Why is this true not just for men, though in my experience mainly. Being
truthful about ourselves is the hardest challenge on the planet. That was a
challenge for me but is something I have gotten better at.

Oh it makes me so made when the "woe is me" crap starts. "I can't do
anything right" "I'm never going to be what I am supposed to be" Well not if
you don't try.

Okay I am just bitching.

I hope your laundry is done. And I hope you have a chat with YS and TF about
their inconsiderate roomie. And perhaps they should give Mom a key for times
like this =-) Just a thought.

Cindi
It's laundry day here too. And grocery day. Oh joy.

> The damn man!  He's a good man - when he's not all wound up in all his
> old, old, OLD baggage.  I wish he'd just let it all go.
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>
> Kitten
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 18 Nov 2007 14:13 GMT
On Nov 17, 12:18 pm, "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree"
<lonnicusuoTAKEME...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > LOL... not even talking about Chewy this time!
>
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>
> Okay I am just bitching.

Bitch away.  It annoys me no end, as well.  I want to tell them, "Stop
being so fatalistic and just FIX IT!"  hehehe

> I hope your laundry is done. And I hope you have a chat with YS and TF about
> their inconsiderate roomie. And perhaps they should give Mom a key for times
> like this =-) Just a thought.
>
> Cindi
> It's laundry day here too. And grocery day. Oh joy.

LOL.... YS told me I should have woken him up, he'd wanted to get up
earlier anyhow.  I told him I'd knocked on his bedroom window, and he
told me to knock harder next time.  Then he and TF took me out to
lunch.  The two of them are really good kids.

Kitten
marika - 18 Nov 2007 15:36 GMT
On Nov 18, 9:13 am, Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe
<st_brigids_gate_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> LOL.... YS told me I should have woken him up, he'd wanted to get up
> earlier anyhow.  

The soap opera continues.  sounds like a security conscious choice.

>I told him I'd knocked on his bedroom window, and he
> told me to knock harder next time.  Then he and TF took me out to
> lunch.  The two of them are really good kids.

Incidentally, I I was talking to a former boss and he said
why the heck aren't there more, we could use them.

 My OTHER boss was a female I call her Artest.  They are
polar opposites

mk5000

"It was in jubilation. When you're happy and joyous about
something and it happens, it's different than being angry and cursing
in
anger. Of course, we don't want to promote that. But if a guy's in
Victory
Lane, jumping up and down, and lets a 's---' slip out, I don't think
that's something we need to go hammering down on."--Dale Earnhardt jr
Kiticat - 17 Nov 2007 20:07 GMT
> LOL... not even talking about Chewy this time!
>
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>
> Kitten

I had to look up 'dirty bong waters' as I hadn't the foggiest what they
were. Seems to be a few recipes - which one do you use?
So did you get all your washing done? Next time maybe just invite
yourself in? If they are going to be rude that doesnt mean you have to
suffer!
I hope you and Chewy manage to sort things out. It sounds like hes got a
lot to think about.
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 18 Nov 2007 14:16 GMT
> > LOL... not even talking about Chewy this time!
>
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> I hope you and Chewy manage to sort things out. It sounds like hes got a
> lot to think about.-

I don't know what all she put in, but I saw Jack Daniels, Southern
Comfort, about 7 other stiff liquors, something blue, and cherry
grinedine.  It was mmmmmmm-good!  She makes damn good kamikazis, too.
I don't get to drink like that very often.  If we go out to play pool,
I'm usually the designated driver.  But Chewy had to be at work the
next morning, so he couldn't drink more than 2 Shiners.  hehehe

Kitten
Puester - 18 Nov 2007 23:25 GMT
> I'm at the boys' house, doing my laundry.  I had to drive Chewy to
> work at 7am, so I figured I'd bring the laundry into town and do it
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> turned around and went back in.  No invitation into the house, no
> nuthin'.

> My grandparents and Mom would have knocked the
> living daylights out of any of us who'd left someone standing on the
> carport for 3+ hours!  This boy has absolutely NO manners - and he's
> the one who's *MY* age.  YS and TF would *never* do anything like
> that.

I don't really understand this.  If you are "at home" enough at this
house to do your laundry, why do you need an invitation to go inside?

> Oh, and as for Chewy....
>
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> The damn man!  He's a good man - when he's not all wound up in all his
> old, old, OLD baggage.  I wish he'd just let it all go.

It sounds as though he's just going through the motions with counseling
and not really buying into it as a solution.  It also seems as though he
doesn't believe in his counselor's opinion of him.  That's unfortunate.

gloria p
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 19 Nov 2007 13:57 GMT
> > I'm at the boys' house, doing my laundry.  I had to drive Chewy to
> > work at 7am, so I figured I'd bring the laundry into town and do it
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> I don't really understand this.  If you are "at home" enough at this
> house to do your laundry, why do you need an invitation to go inside?

It's that old "common courtesy" thing that my mother and my maternal
grandparents drilled into me.  Unless I have a standing invite
(including a key), I don't go into someone's house uninvited.

> > Oh, and as for Chewy....
>
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> and not really buying into it as a solution.  It also seems as though he
> doesn't believe in his counselor's opinion of him.  That's unfortunate.

Oh, he knows where the problems are.  He just doesn't seem to be
invested enough in our marriage (or in himself) to work with me to
resolve the issues.  We'll see.

Kitten
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 19 Nov 2007 16:24 GMT
> Oh, he knows where the problems are.  He just doesn't seem to be
> invested enough in our marriage (or in himself) to work with me to
> resolve the issues.  We'll see.

That really gets me since he can identify what is happening, he can identify
what needs to be done, he just can't commit to it. Kitten you have my
thoughts and prayers. You have so much to deal with. But I guess at least
you have clean laundry and a nice lunch on Saturday right? Always looking
for the bright side.

Cindi

> Kitten
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 19 Nov 2007 16:47 GMT
On Nov 19, 10:24 am, "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree"
<lonnicusuoTAKEME...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Oh, he knows where the problems are.  He just doesn't seem to be
> > invested enough in our marriage (or in himself) to work with me to
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> you have clean laundry and a nice lunch on Saturday right? Always looking
> for the bright side.

Yep.  The boys and I had a good afternoon together.  And YD is still
maintaining her good disposition - for an entire week now.  It's the
little blessings that keep me going.

Kitten
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 19 Nov 2007 18:12 GMT
> On Nov 19, 10:24 am, "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree"
> <lonnicusuoTAKEME...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> maintaining her good disposition - for an entire week now.  It's the
> little blessings that keep me going.

Wow a whole week of good disposition? There are things to be praised.

Cindi

> Kitten
Marc - 20 Nov 2007 21:16 GMT
<snip>

> The damn man!  He's a good man - when he's not all wound up in all his
> old, old, OLD baggage.  I wish he'd just let it all go.
>
> Anyhow.... I'm standing out here, bored out of my skull 'cause NOONE's
> posting today.  LOL... I've got the last load in the washer and my
> reds in the dryer, so I'll only be here another hour or so.

I hope he comes around soon, it is hard to watch a good man turn himself
into a useless one. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ good luck to both of
you. And glad YS woke up enough to share an enjoyable afternoon with you.

Marc
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe - 21 Nov 2007 16:12 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> into a useless one. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ good luck to both of
> you. And glad YS woke up enough to share an enjoyable afternoon with you.

Thanks, Marc.  I worry sometimes that things with Chewy will get worse
before they get better.  I hope I'm wrong about that.

On another group, there's a thread going about non-standard things
we're thankful for.  For me, amongst the top things on the list is
that YS is such a thoughtful and responsible young man.  I don't know
how I got so lucky with that one.

Kitten
 
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