The enclosed mall hummed with the pedestrian traffic of two
thousand feet jammed together and milling from the hundred stores.
Jingling bells, Musak's instrumental "White Christmas," and two
dozen kids standing in a snake-like line added to the festively
deafening din already reaching Blue Oyster Cult concert-level
pain.
I watched in amusement as Spawn jumped and pranced about trying to
peer through the forest of adults ahead of us to get a better view
of the giant elf dressed in his traditional red suit with its
white trim, Jolly Ol' Saint Nick.
"He's back!"
"Yes, hon, he is."
"Think he'll remember me?" she asked in a worried tone, chewing at
her thumb.
"He remembers everyone. How do you think he knows if you're good
or bad?"
"Oh yeah. I forgot. I'm so excited."
"I noticed." The line clicked two steps forward. "Got an idea of
what you're going to talk to him about?"
"Yeah!" and she clapped her hands quickly together, bouncing in
place like a jumping cricket.
I waited.
Spawn heard "Rudolf" through the mall noise and started to softly
hum.
"Can you share?" I prodded.
"Yeah but I doubt you'll be able to help with it. It's something
that only Santa can answer."
"Sounds serious..."
"It is. Sort of."
I knew what the issue was without Spawn's needing to tell me. I
sighed inwardly. I watched as she twirled back and forth to
another musical accompaniment and then asked, "Who doesn't
believe?"
She stopped and looked up at me. "Eric. He said that 'Santa's only
your parents putting presents out.' and I told him that I could
prove Santa was real. And then," we stepped two clicks closer, "he
said that I couldn't."
"Oh. So Eric's always right, is he?" I asked with a smile already
knowing that Spawn considered Eric one of the dimmer bulbs in her
class.
"Uh. No. He's not, as a matter of fact."
"He's right most of the time?" I pushed.
"No. Actually, he's not right a lot of the time..."
"So let's examine his track record. Eric's 'not right a lot of the
time.' Eric's upset with everyone in your class all the time and
always says mean things that get him in trouble. Eric is a
knothead especially when he sets his mind to the task. Those are
some compelling reasons why you should believe him, no?" I knelt
down, held her hand and looked in her face, her ice-blue eyes
sparkling and framed by her blond locks. "By the way, who's the
smarter of the two?" I smiled. "You, with Santa right there for
you to talk to," I gestured towards the canopied receiving area,
"or Eric stuck at home festering like a canker sore?" I smiled
crookedly. "I'm pretty sure I know what Miss Emm would answer."
"Oh, she answered already! Eric didn't like her answer. He yelled,
too, which got him sent to the office."
I raised my eyebrow at that bit of news. Eric was spending more
and more time "in the office" because of his ongoing outbursts. I
stood back up, my knees, spine, wrists, and neck sounding like a
bowl of rice krispies in milk. "Decided on what you want to ask?"
"Yep."
"Can I make a suggestion?"
"Yep," she smiled impishly. "But 'suggestions are only that.'"
"Hmm. Where's my royalty for using that?" I held out my hand.
"Put it on my tab..." she said as she flipped her hair closing the
conversation.
During the next thirty minutes of this torturous wait, Spawn
played 'pattycakes' with the little girl behind us. The two girls
were deep in discussion (each knew more about the solving world
peace through sharing person information than I thought possible)
when I touched Spawn's shoulder. "It's your turn, hon."
"Already? Whoa! Bye Naomi. I hope you get everything and your
brother leaves you alone."
"Yeah. Bye."
"Santa! Remember me?"
I walked across the receiving area to the monitor area. I had a
feeling this would be our last trip and was already reaching for
my Visa.
"The rumbling baritone of the giant man was measured, soothing, a
confident. Spawn talked to him and he answered her questions
without pause. The camera's flash clicked and my eyes saw greens
and blues and yellows dancing about. I watched the monitor and
liked the photo. Santa reached down into a bag by his side and
produced something. He set Spawn back down on the carpet and
looked at her and winked. She smiled that impish grin and gave him
a hug.
I made my purchase and we headed back into the sea of humanity
pushing and pulling throughout the marbled floor of the mall.
"What'd you talk about?"
"Santa. I asked him. He said if I believed he'd always be there...
I want to... But I don't know."
I know she wants to but the evidence is starting to pile up
against that belief.
The Ranger
Puester - 26 Dec 2007 18:36 GMT
> "Santa. I asked him. He said if I believed he'd always be there...
> I want to... But I don't know."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The Ranger
That's a sweet story. You're lucky she got to be 9 still believing.
You have some great daughters. Remember that when they go through
the Impossible Years (~15-21 or so.) It does get better....
gloria p
The Ranger - 26 Dec 2007 23:02 GMT
[snip]
> That's a sweet story. You're lucky she got to be 9
> still believing.
She's a realist. ;)
If she _tells_ us she's no longer believing in him, then there are
several cut-backs foreseen.
> You have some great daughters. Remember that when
> they go through the Impossible Years (~15-21 or so.)
Teenangsters are such the joy. I'm hoping my three only intensely
hate me and my values for five years (14-19) when I can still
control mode of transportation and availability of funds. :)
> It does get better....
A ray of hope shines out across the Plain of Gorgoroth.
The Ranger
Puester - 27 Dec 2007 00:13 GMT
> [snip]
>> That's a sweet story. You're lucky she got to be 9
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> If she _tells_ us she's no longer believing in him, then there are
> several cut-backs foreseen.
Smart girl, that Spawn!
We had a neighbor boy years ago who "believed" until he was 15. At
least his parents believed that he believed. The rest of us knew
better. He believed because it was in his best interest.
gloria p
Ericka Kammerer - 27 Dec 2007 01:22 GMT
>> [snip]
>>> That's a sweet story. You're lucky she got to be 9
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> least his parents believed that he believed. The rest of us knew
> better. He believed because it was in his best interest.
I've never quite understood the notion that Santa stops
when the last kid admits to not believing. To me, that sets up
the whole big deal about Santa being a lie and kids getting disappointed
when it turns out there isn't a big guy dressed in red living at the
North Pole with elves. Our approach (going back quite a while on my
side of the family) is that Santa *is* real. People just move from
thinking Santa is a jolly old elf at the North Pole to believing in
Santa as part of the tradition of giving at Christmas. Santa never
stops at our house, and there's never the Big Reveal. At some point,
older kids/younger adults just take it upon themselves to get in on
the fun. Santa usually gives the best presents in our family. People
enjoy the fun of finding something really special and leaving the
recipient guessing as to who actually gave the gift (Santa never
tells!).
Best wishes,
Ericka
Sue - 27 Dec 2007 12:13 GMT
"Ericka Kammerer" <eek@comcast.net> wrote in message
> I've never quite understood the notion that Santa stops
> when the last kid admits to not believing. To me, that sets up
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> recipient guessing as to who actually gave the gift (Santa never
> tells!).
I am with you Ericka. We do the same thing. Santa lives on in our house and
I expect the tradition to continue with our girls.

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Sue (mom to three girls)
deja.blues - 27 Dec 2007 12:40 GMT
>>> [snip]
>>>> That's a sweet story. You're lucky she got to be 9
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Best wishes,
> Ericka
We never did Santa, we did St. Nicholas, who was an actual person, and we
give gifts to each other in the same spirit that he gave gifts when he was
alive back in the 3rd century. The kids understand that it is actually the
parents giving the gifts.
Having older teenagers also made sure that the youngest was in no way going
to believe in Santa. We had to tell him to keep this to himself, because
lots of his 4th grade classmates believe, which bemuses him.
The Ranger - 27 Dec 2007 16:50 GMT
[snip]
> I've never quite understood the notion that Santa stops
> when the last kid admits to not believing. To me, that
> sets up the whole big deal about Santa being a lie and
> kids getting disappointed when it turns out there isn't
> a big guy dressed in red living at the North Pole with
> elves.
In my particular case, it coincided directly with my teenangster's
desire to dim-and-inhibit my Sainted Mother(tm) and Father-unit's
neverending holiday cheer. Their consistent use of
cause-and-effect (if/then) consequences due to my actions created
the necessary negative feedback I required during that phase of my
life.
I often look back on that stage of my life and always marvel at my
parents' level of control and hope I am equal to it when my three
hit it with equal zeal...
> Our approach (going back quite a while on my
> side of the family) is that Santa *is* real. People just
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> recipient guessing as to who actually gave the gift
> (Santa never tells!).
Which is where we are currently. Daughter-unit Alpha is certainly
more festive than Daughter-unit Beta but they both are enjoying
participating in this side of the holiday spirit.
The Ranger
enigma - 27 Dec 2007 20:17 GMT
>>> Puester <puester@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Aaxcj.80664$MJ6.37525@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> and leaving the recipient guessing as to who actually gave
> the gift (Santa never tells!).
yup!
and i bet you *can* still hear the sleigh bells...
lee
Nan - 26 Dec 2007 19:13 GMT
>"Santa. I asked him. He said if I believed he'd always be there...
>I want to... But I don't know."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>The Ranger
Awwwww, such a sweet story :-)
Nan
The Ranger - 26 Dec 2007 23:03 GMT
[snip]
> Awwwww, such a sweet story :-)
I think she's a keeper mostly, too. ;)
The Ranger
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 26 Dec 2007 19:41 GMT
> I made my purchase and we headed back into the sea of humanity
> pushing and pulling throughout the marbled floor of the mall. "What'd you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I know she wants to but the evidence is starting to pile up against that
> belief.
This year is the first year the 12 year old daughter and I have talked about
the existence of a Claus. Our statement has always been, "If you believe
there is a Santa, then he will keep coming." She has never ONCE told me that
she didn't believe in Santa Claus. She did say that two years ago her
teacher told them that there is no Santa Claus. It was technically
impossible and the math was not a possibility. But, she decided her teacher,
who was her least favorite of all time, was just full of crap.
The 7 year old is very secure in his belief of Santa and we will all work to
encourage it, otherwise he's our last Santa kid.
Cindi
> The Ranger
The Ranger - 26 Dec 2007 23:07 GMT
[snip]
> This year is the first year the 12 year old daughter and
> I have talked about the existence of a Claus. Our
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> her teacher, who was her least favorite of all time,
> was just full of crap.
I don't understand "adults" that pull this nonsense; bombastic
twaddle that are always based in a hidden agenda.
> The 7 year old is very secure in his belief of Santa and
> we will all work to encourage it, otherwise he's our last
> Santa kid.
Spawn understands what'll happen if she ever admits publicly
that's why she was so cagey about their talk. ;)
The Ranger
Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 27 Dec 2007 03:13 GMT
> [snip]
>> This year is the first year the 12 year old daughter and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I don't understand "adults" that pull this nonsense; bombastic twaddle
> that are always based in a hidden agenda.
She was a biotch all the way around and therefore taught at that school only
one year. That was the principal's last act before retirement.
Cindi
>> The 7 year old is very secure in his belief of Santa and
>> we will all work to encourage it, otherwise he's our last
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The Ranger