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The Ranger - 15 Apr 2008 13:30 GMT
I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my
two teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts
concert. Neither daughter-unit went alone -- there were six
other girls and one shepherd -- and the venue was local.

Concerts are now no longer part of my life; I don't care to
attend them so when others are... Well, I don't mind letting
the village watch my two.

Both my SILs were scandalized that I'd even _thought_ of
letting two 13-yos attend a concert (after all, "There are
'druggies' there!")

Granted, it's been a decade-and-a-half since I last attended a
concert but I don't remember there being any illegal stuff at
country concerts beyond cigarettes and booze. (Note: The mom
that was shepherding the flock of teens at Taylor's concert
didn't "see" anything worth noting, either.)

I'd be concerned if they were attending a head-banger or Punk
Rave but the few country concerts I've attended haven't had
anything beyond booze and cigarettes. Are concerts as open as
they were in the 80s and 90s or have they cleaned up enough to
consider this a nonissue?

The Ranger
beth thomas - 15 Apr 2008 14:23 GMT
Hi Ranger (et al)!!

I am with you, I see no problem with kids that age attending a concert with
an adult present, especially country, which is traditionally a kinder,
gentler kind of concert.  I have taken my girls and their pals to see Carrie
Underwood, Toby Keith, and Brad Paisley...never saw anyone out of hand.  I
especially think Taylor Swift would be quite kid friendly, with a fan base
of tweens as major attendees.
Sounds like your SILs are looking for something to gripe about....if I were
you I'd get the girls fake tattoos and then have them show SIL, stating they
are not sure how they got there as they were like soooo messed up at the
concert it is all a blur... but then I have quite a mean streak!
heh

>I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my two
>teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts concert. Neither
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> The Ranger
The Ranger - 15 Apr 2008 14:43 GMT
>>I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently
>> that my two teenangsters attended the Taylor
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> Hi Ranger (et al)!!

Georgia Peach! How the H룣 y'all been?!

> I am with you, I see no problem with kids that age
> attending a concert with an adult present, especially
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> think Taylor Swift would be quite kid friendly, with
> a fan base of tweens as major attendees.

That was my initial reaction, too. I don't do the concert scene
any longer so I thought I might have set my rose-colored
glasses into goggle mode with a good dose of "didn't happen" to
boot...

> Sounds like your SILs are looking for something
> to gripe about....if I were you I'd get the girls fake
> tattoos and then have them show SIL, stating they are not
> sure how they got there as they were like
> soooo messed up at the concert it is all a blur...
> but then I have quite a mean streak!

I _would_ do that (in a heart beat!) but I still enjoy living
_with_ SWMBO and she often doesn't share my sense of humor when
it's asserted against her kin. ;) She did tell them that they
were over-reacting, though, and the subject died a natural
death a few breaths later...

But still!

The Ranger
Banty - 16 Apr 2008 22:53 GMT
>Hi Ranger (et al)!!
>
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>are not sure how they got there as they were like soooo messed up at the
>concert it is all a blur... but then I have quite a mean streak!

LOL love that.

I think 13 in the company of a responsible adult is old enough even if there be
some 'doings' at the concert anyway.  At exactly which age would your IL's
consider it OK to find out about all that?

Banty
dp17@hush.ai - 15 Apr 2008 14:34 GMT
> I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my
> two teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts
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>
> The Ranger

We went a couple of times to some local "Battle of the bands". Which
you might describe as headbangers and I would call up and coming heavy
metal bands. Did not see anything beyond beer and Cigarettes there and
they were pretty strict on checking ID's before selling them at the
concessions. But then on the other hand a guy living down the road
from me got arrested a month ago for having 6 Kilos of pot in his
house which he supposedly was growing out back in the woods. So you
never know. I do agree though on having a responsible adult present.
And of course also to have "The Talk" with the kids - after all - the
word is that drugs are supposed to even be available in school. (They
found 2 joints at a sweep in HS)
MarieD - 15 Apr 2008 14:51 GMT
> I'd be concerned if they were attending a head-banger or Punk Rave but the
> few country concerts I've attended haven't had anything beyond booze and
> cigarettes. Are concerts as open as they were in the 80s and 90s or have
> they cleaned up enough to consider this a nonissue?

At the Nine Inch Nails concert there was definately pot being smoked and we
were offered a hit from the kids who were behind us.
I've never been to a country music concert but around here there's lots of
drunks at them and I do know several people who pass joints around at
certain ones(Hank? I think).
Marie
The Ranger - 15 Apr 2008 15:04 GMT
>> I'd be concerned if they were attending a head-banger
>> or Punk Rave but the few country concerts I've
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> pot being smoked and we were offered a hit from
> the kids who were behind us.

There are some rock concerts that I wouldn't feel comfortable
for them attending, either, for this very reason. Best concert
I ever attended was "Little River Band." Most eye-opening:
same. I saw a lot more than communal joint/bong sharing.
Granted, that was the 80s but still, I'd not want to expose
Alpha or Beta to that seemier side of Real Life® yet.

> I've never been to a country music concert but
> around here there's lots of drunks at them and
> I do know several people who pass joints
> around at certain ones(Hank? I think).

Willie, too. <G>

But... The venue that was hosting this particular event is
known for controlling their patrons' intake of alcohol... Or so
the local fishwrap mentions during hockey and lacrosse matches.

The Ranger
Nan - 15 Apr 2008 15:31 GMT
Oooh, best concert I ever attended was Bob Seger!  My very first
concert was Terrible Ted (Nugent).  iirc, the ticket cost only $6 for
lower arena seating at the Notre Dame (University) center.  That was a
wild experience.  1977, I believe.
The last concert I attended was at the county fair and REO Speedwagon.
I wouldn't hesitate to let kids attend a show at the fair, either.

Nan
Banty - 16 Apr 2008 22:55 GMT
>Oooh, best concert I ever attended was Bob Seger!  My very first
>concert was Terrible Ted (Nugent).  iirc, the ticket cost only $6 for
>lower arena seating at the Notre Dame (University) center.  That was a
>wild experience.  1977, I believe.

My first concert was Santana at Red Rocks, Colorado, 1973, I believe.

>The last concert I attended was at the county fair and REO Speedwagon.
>I wouldn't hesitate to let kids attend a show at the fair, either.

It's been way too long except at county fairs.

Banty
Nan - 17 Apr 2008 14:31 GMT
>>Oooh, best concert I ever attended was Bob Seger!  My very first
>>concert was Terrible Ted (Nugent).  iirc, the ticket cost only $6 for
>>lower arena seating at the Notre Dame (University) center.  That was a
>>wild experience.  1977, I believe.
>
>My first concert was Santana at Red Rocks, Colorado, 1973, I believe.

I never got to see Santana although I wanted to.  Let's see.... I've
seen Journey 3 times, Steve Miller Band, AC/DC, Van Halen, Ted Nugent,
Bob Seger, Eddie Money, Nazareth, REO before they started the fair
circuit, Loverboy, Billy Squire, yeeesh, I'm old <G>

>>The last concert I attended was at the county fair and REO Speedwagon.
>>I wouldn't hesitate to let kids attend a show at the fair, either.
>
>It's been way too long except at county fairs.
>
>Banty

Nan
enigma - 15 Apr 2008 15:39 GMT
>> I'd be concerned if they were attending a head-banger or
>> Punk Rave but the few country concerts I've attended
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> know several people who pass joints around at certain
> ones(Hank? I think).

see, that sort of thing isn't fair. i'm violently allergic to
smoke, particularly pot. at the price of concert tickets, i'd
be royally pissed if someone around me was smoking...
i've been to heavy metal (including Ozzfest) & a lot of Tull
concerts and never ran into the smoke issue. the Ozzfest took
my sealed waterbottle away at the gate, too.
lee
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Froggy - 15 Apr 2008 15:01 GMT
> I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my two
> teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts concert. Neither
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>
> The Ranger

I don't see a thing wrong with letting them go.  They were not by them
selves and most country fans are older and are there to actually
"watch" the performance.  Present company included. :)

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Tin@ (Sarah's Auntie) - 16 Apr 2008 03:12 GMT
> > I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my two
> > teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts concert. Neither
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I think the worst situation would be the over drinkers, which there
seems to be a lot of at country concerts.
dejablues - 16 Apr 2008 02:02 GMT
>I was discussing with my two sister-in-laws recently that my two
>teenangsters attended the Taylor Swift/Rascal Flatts concert. Neither
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> cigarettes. Are concerts as open as they were in the 80s and 90s or have
> they cleaned up enough to consider this a nonissue?

It's a non-issue, afaic.
Live concerts are a big part of our lives. There's nothing quite like live
music performed by professionals who love what they do. DH and I have
attended more concerts than we can count (no country though, that's not our
thang). Most of my children are older than yours, but the youngest (10) has
attended quite a few shows already since my brother is in a successful band.
I started taking them to shows when they were 12 or so.  They take music
lessons so I feel it is important for them to see live music.
The headbanger shows I have no issue with but for the fact that they are in
the city and are usually held at bars or nightclubs, and they're not 21 yet.
I'd frankly be more afraid of the crowd at a Hannah Montana show than I
would at a Metallica show -give me male metalheads than screaming tweenies
and their moms anyday.
 
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