A New Religion For All People
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jonatthehelm@gmail.com - 21 Jun 2008 18:31 GMT I have my own, new religion, I am the teacher of, and it involves not only reciting Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo, and Nam Myao Fa Len Wua Ching, but it also involves chanting, Om Mane Padme Oum, Oum, and also, the Hare Krishna Hare Rama religous singing. At the advanced levels, it involves sexual coupling, and sexual activities, that may be tiresome to some, as the activities can go on, for a somewhat lengthy period of time, with not much really happening, but prayers will be said during that time, verbally and in silent prayer forms known as mudras or hand prayers. I preform the mudras, and we do this, as we remain in coupled positions. The sexual contact is enormously purifying to your karma, and we erase our karma, very pro-actively, when we practice my religion.
There are many purifying ritual blessings, and we are butt naked during these activities. More than one person can participate, but to start out, one person is fine. In time, if more people wish to get involved, this can be accomodated, very easily.
In a sense, it is a form of genital and body worship. Women and men adore and worship the male phallic, and women and men adore and worship the female vagina, her breasts, and her entire body. Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo or Om mane padme oum, can be recited while adoring the physical attributes of the genitals and of the bodies of the men and women. In short, it is very rewarding as a meditational and religious spiritual practice. This we can go into at greater detail, another time, but suffice it to say, it was very common among the Japanese, in years long past, and is still practiced, though in thier own unique ways, here and there, though not much will be publicly said about it.
Human bodies are innately pure, holy, and supreme. They are purifying tools in that they can generate large amounts of purifying energies, daily. Human bodies are the expressions of the highest life forms ever evolved on this planet with the potential for love, kindness, generosity, charity, orgasmic bliss, rapture, and transendental awareness.
Sexual energies are profoundly pure and purifying. It does not matter if you move your hips, or your butt, or your pelvis, and so forth. The mere fact of being in touch, coupled together, or in direct contact, the sexual energies are over whelming, and they have a major impact on erasing our negative karma that is hidden under the skin, of the surface of the body, in what I call, karmic markups. Karmic markups are every where in our environment, but they are also, directly hidden, under the layers of skin, of our bodies. They are also, hidden behind the molecules in the dirt, in trees, in the air, in water, and so forth. We have a lot of karmic markups, and they are merely notations on good, bad, or otherwise, with regards to our behavior. We've been in this universe, for longer than any one can possibly imagine, and our karmic markups, which are more like, traces of our lives, that we leave, impressions, images, that we impress into our environment, these karmic markups need to be dealt with, that is purifyied. It is a long process, but you have to start somewhere. My religion will teach you effective ways to erase karmic markups so that you can begin to have a happier life, than ever before.
To learn to practice, as I practice, may take some time, but that is not important, as we need to be steady, and focused, with our goals, clearly defined. That means, we strive to erase our karmic markups, day in, and day out, and over time, weeks, months, then years, things begin to noticably change.
There is no money involved. There are no fringe benefits. It is simply a religious practice, that I teach. I can teach as many people as I need to. But to start out, and with the resources that I have at hand, starting with one or two, possibly, females, is preferred. Later, males who are interested, can by all means, join in, and learn the practices. Other women may also join, and we can start out with thirty or even forty people, with out many problems at all.
As the ladies begin to learn the practice, they will take on a leadership role, and it will become their responsibility, to organize the religious meetings. With more women involved, organizationally, the limits on how many people can participate, gradually expand.
I do not have any thing against the Nichiren group, or the Soka Gakkai Group, or any of the other Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo groups, and I welcome all persons who are interested in quickly making changes in their karma so that they can live a better life.
Life goes on, even after we die, and we are reborn, and there in is the problem. Are we reborn into better circumstances, or are we reborn into worser circumstances.
With the practice of my religion, there is little time, for any thing, other than, religious practice. Therefore, your results appear, rather rapidly, after a number of months, perhaps, of determined practice, and as you continue, you will improve your karma, generally, so much so, that, your next life, and the prospects for it, will look better and better, as you continue your practice of my religion.
Singing is a part of this religion. We will learn to sing Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo, and we will learn to sing, Hare Krishna Harerama with lyrics that are not heard in today's groups of Hare Krishna followers.
The point is, to transendentally, lift your mind up, further than you would ever have imagined, possible. It takes time, and patience, and difficulties do occur as you practice. This is regrettable, that we suffer difficulties, but that is life, and we are not escaping from life. We are erasing our karma, and we are transendentally lifting our selves up. Over a life time of this practice, you will see results that to you, will be proof enough that this religion is very powerful.
So. Should you be interested, please send me an e-mail, to jonatthehelm @ gmail . com
I am located in Southern Nevada, Las Vegas, and the singing will have to be low key, as my neighbors probably will not appreciate loud religious singing. If we someday have a separate building, a house, to practice in, then the issue of singing in a loud, happy, joyous voice, is not a problem, but for now, we will need to keep our voices to a acceptable level.
I also teach, Yoga, which you will not find in any book, and Taichi that you also will not find in any book. If we have the time, we will also practice from time to time.
I am 56 years old, my health is not terrific, I am relatively poor, and my karma is such that living is a slight bit difficult. In any event, should there be any persons who are willing to give this religion a try, you will not be disappointed. There may be times, you will feel bored, or, you will feel you might be better off doing something else. If that is your attitude, than please do not apply for training. Training is serious business, and conviviality does not come into play. There will be no picnicks, no partying, no get togethers, and so forth. I am to be understood as a 'guru', or a 'yogi', or a 'swami'. I have no time for fooling around, as practice is what we do to gain results. If you are interested, please send me an e-mail. People who are not cooperative, who wish to spend the day chatting, or fooling around, are not welcome, and will be asked to leave, and will be asked to not return.
There is much to teach about my religion, and why we do the things we do, and much time is spent in meditative contemplation. There is much to learn, and the rewards are spiritual, emotional, mental, physical, and all round good health is promoted. It is not a class to learn about various histories of different religions. Nor, is it a class open for debate. I have my practice, and my reasons for it. If one feels one can not get sufficient information on a topic of study, you will be directed to visit a library to study. University of Hawaii, Hamilton, is one such useful library.
There are no charges for lessons involved, and no charges period, and no wages, and you come as you are, with loose fitting garments or gowns. Nakedness is not required from the begining. It's optional. We have lots of excercises to do, and in time, you will learn, that nakedness enhances the excercises. Later, the more complicated the excercise, the greater the need for nakedness. You will get used to it, after awhile. All training and teaching sesions are private, and no guests, without special permission, will be allowed. If guests attend, then the guests also participate in the religious training.
A loose fitting gown, from shoulders to ankles, sort of like, a one piece dress, that goes over the head but does not cover the head, and then drapes from the shoulders, over your frame, with or without sleeves, better without, unless you tend to get cold, and then extends to your ankles, and loose fitting. If you twirl about, in a circle, in it, it should billow out, at the bottom, but less so, towards the top, like a parasol umbrella, and it will also look something like a 'bell' as it falls back down as you decrease your twirling, spinning speed. That is a traditional guru uniform. Yellow is fine, beige is fine, or other color. No shoes will be worn, indoors.
In the future, there is no reason that we can not move our lessons to the out doors to some location, where privacy could be guaranteed, and where other people would not be disturbed by our religious activities, such as at a mountainous retreat, or at a sea side retreat, BLM wilderness area with park facilities, such as tables, showers, restrooms, camping, and so forth. In winter long sleeves are preferable. Thicker or heavier material denim like jackets may be suggested for wear over the gown for outdoor winter religious activities. Men will wear the same 'guru' working gowns as the women do.
Jon
jonatthehelm @ gmail . com
Wombat - 22 Jun 2008 07:51 GMT On 21 Jun, 19:31, jonattheh...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have my own, new religion, I am the teacher of, and it involves not > only reciting Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo, and Nam Myao Fa Len Wua Ching, [quoted text clipped - 172 lines] > > jonatthehelm @ gmail . com Well, bully for you.
Wombat
traveller - 22 Jun 2008 13:33 GMT On Jun 21, 1:31 pm, jonattheh...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have my own, new religion, I am the teacher of, and it involves not > only reciting Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo, and Nam Myao Fa Len Wua Ching, [quoted text clipped - 172 lines] > > jonatthehelm @ gmail . com I do not have an issue with your practices. However I do hope you use condoms. Nature will act as nature does without consideration of the thoughts of man. Biology. We have no control over organism reproduction and should respect the earthly body. Be safe. Keep your body as pure as your mindsoul and enjoy the fruit of your passion.
Elise - 20 Jul 2008 18:18 GMT Hi all! How are you today?
Elise
>I have my own, new religion, I am the teacher of, and it involves not > only reciting Nam Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo, and Nam Myao Fa Len Wua Ching, [quoted text clipped - 172 lines] > > jonatthehelm @ gmail . com Unknown - 20 Jul 2008 18:45 GMT Hi! Haven't heard from you in a long time.
> Hi all! How are you today? > [quoted text clipped - 176 lines] >> >> jonatthehelm @ gmail . com Elise - 29 Jul 2008 04:48 GMT Yes I'm very occuped, but who are you unknow,unknow,unknow...?
Elise
> Hi! Haven't heard from you in a long time. >> Hi all! How are you today? [quoted text clipped - 177 lines] >>> >>> jonatthehelm @ gmail . com Ilusion - 27 Jul 2008 19:36 GMT > Hi all! How are you today? > > Elise Bonjour, Elise. C'est bien?
Bisoux
Ana
Elise - 29 Jul 2008 04:43 GMT Hi >Ana ,I'm very happy to see you here, are you fine? And do you have again my mailbox?
I give you a big bisous too,
Elise
> Hi all! How are you today? > > Elise Bonjour, Elise. C'est bien?
Bisoux
Ana
Ilusion - 30 Jul 2008 08:40 GMT > Hi >Ana ,I'm very happy to see you here, are you fine? And do you have again > my mailbox? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > Elise Hey. No, I dont. I think that maybe you are confusing me with Sally O'Malley =)
Ana
Elise - 31 Jul 2008 04:14 GMT Yes that's true, do you know Sally? Are you french too? I see you have writing in french language...
Elise
On Jul 29, 12:43 am, "Elise" <elisa...@orange.fr> wrote:
> Hi >Ana ,I'm very happy to see you here, are you fine? And do you have > again [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Elise Hey. No, I dont. I think that maybe you are confusing me with Sally O'Malley =)
Ana
Ilusion - 01 Aug 2008 23:52 GMT > Yes that's true, do you know Sally? Are you french too? I see you have > writing in french language... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ana Non, I am from Uruguay. But I used to speak French.
Ana
Elise - 02 Aug 2008 08:07 GMT Ho yes, and do you come back in France sometimes? I'm leaving in Lyon.
Elise
On Jul 31, 12:14 am, "Elise" <elisa...@orange.fr> wrote:
> Yes that's true, do you know Sally? Are you french too? I see you have > writing in french language... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Ana Non, I am from Uruguay. But I used to speak French.
Ana
Cory Albrecht - 02 Aug 2008 19:20 GMT Elise wrote, On 02/08/08 05:07 AM:
> Ho yes, and do you come back in France sometimes? I'm leaving in Lyon. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Ana How about you two ignoramuses take this conversation somewhere other than alt.talk.creationism? Thanks.
Ilusion - 03 Aug 2008 15:50 GMT > Elise wrote, On 02/08/08 05:07 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > How about you two ignoramuses take this conversation somewhere other > than alt.talk.creationism? Thanks. First of all, I didnt know it was a crossposting. Second of all, the group you mention is not in the groups I am sending this post. In fact, I apologize to the people that will get this mail -but to you- and that belong to the groups:
misc.kids,alc.suicide,alt.mothers
As you can see, if you can read, the group you mention is not among them. I copied and pasted them, if you know what these things mean...
The reason I am sending this mail to them is that I dont know another way to get you. As soon as I find out, I will delete them from the field "To". Sorry for the inconvenience.
About the word ignoramuses, I dont know it but I guess that it comes from ignorant. I wouldnt call a person I dont know *at all* ignorant just because his English is not good enough to your taste. Maybe this persons native language is another one. Do you know that this, to have another native language and at least a second one, in my case, as you surelly should have noticed - if you are able to understand what you read - in my case I speak at least 3 languages. I wonder how many do you speak...
Ana
Elise - 06 Aug 2008 16:52 GMT Oui , je suis française et je m'interesse à ce groupe et aux personnes que je connais ici, where is the problem my dear?I I know this group since a long time, yes my english is not perfect but the people who apprecing me like my english and my words too...
Thank you,
Elise
> Elise wrote, On 02/08/08 05:07 AM: >> Ho yes, and do you come back in France sometimes? I'm leaving in Lyon. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > How about you two ignoramuses take this conversation somewhere other > than alt.talk.creationism? Thanks.
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