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janesire@gmail.com - 07 Jul 2008 16:02 GMT
A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
she alerted the school and paid it. We were talking about it and she
said she paid the money because if she didn't, it would affect her ten
fold some time in the future.

I would do the same thing and I'm sure most of you too. But my
question to you is if you were in her situation and you were to pay it
back, why would you do it? Would you give it back because of the same
sentiment as of my friend? Or would it be to clear your conscience? Or
because it's just the right thing to do?

Do you really believe that a good deed will affect your future
happiness in same kind (not because of the peace of mind it brings)?
Why/why not?

If you won't return it, I would like to hear your logic as well.

Thanks.
toto - 07 Jul 2008 16:46 GMT
>A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
>thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Thanks.

I simply believe that this is the right thing to do.  If you owe
money, you pay it.  I have gone back to cashiers when they gave me
incorrect change that was more than they owed as well.  It's a matter
of principle for me.

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scrumble - 07 Jul 2008 19:28 GMT
>> If you won't return it, I would like to hear your logic as well.
>>
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> incorrect change that was more than they owed as well.  It's a matter
> of principle for me.

Same here. Treat others as you'd have them treat you.

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The Ranger - 07 Jul 2008 20:25 GMT
[snip]
> Same here. Treat others as you'd have them treat you.

Screw that! I'm treated as royalty; I don't treat ANYONE to
that level.

Sir Ranger
scrumble - 07 Jul 2008 21:57 GMT
> [snip]
>> Same here. Treat others as you'd have them treat you.
>
> Screw that! I'm treated as royalty; I don't treat ANYONE to
> that level.

You get paid to sit on your arse and do nothing all day?

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The Ranger - 07 Jul 2008 22:22 GMT
[snip]
> You get paid to sit on your arse and do nothing all day?

I'm reading (and reposting to) Usenet; whatdoyouthink?

The Ranger
scrumble - 07 Jul 2008 22:31 GMT
> [snip]
>> You get paid to sit on your arse and do nothing all day?
>
> I'm reading (and reposting to) Usenet; whatdoyouthink?

/bows

Your Highness

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dp17@hush.ai - 12 Jul 2008 17:42 GMT
> > [snip]
> >> Same here. Treat others as you'd have them treat you.
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>
> You get paid to sit on your arse and do nothing all day?

He is a teacher and "teachers don't work they just play with us" DD
when she was in KG <g>
dejablues - 13 Jul 2008 05:04 GMT
On Jul 7, 4:57 pm, scrumble <whate...@bleh.hu> wrote:
> The Ranger wrote:
> > [snip]
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>He is a teacher and "teachers don't work they just play with us" DD
>when she was in KG <g>

Schooooooooooools out ! For!  Summer!
The Ranger - 13 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT
> Schooooooooooools out ! For!  Summer!

Thanks, Alice. Rock on!
The Ranger - 13 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT
On Jul 12, 9:42 am, d...@hush.ai wrote:
> He is a teacher and "teachers don't work they just play with us" DD
> when she was in KG <g>

I've obviously found my place in the Universe: Entertaining those on
their way through The System.

The Ranger
Banty - 07 Jul 2008 17:02 GMT
>A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
>thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>If you won't return it, I would like to hear your logic as well.

I would pay it back not only for my conscience, but in anticipation of
accounting eventually catching up to it.  Pehaps long after I'd written off the
debt in my mind, and it would be harder to pay.

I've found in life it's a good policy just to play it straight whenever one can.

Banty
Gloria P - 07 Jul 2008 22:30 GMT
> Do you really believe that a good deed will affect your future
> happiness in same kind (not because of the peace of mind it brings)?
> Why/why not?

1. It's the right thing to do.

2. The school needs that money to pay salaries and other bills.  I hope
they are not as cavalier about all their students' accounts or they will
have to raise tuition/fees costs or go out of business.

3. I do believe in some tiny way that there are cosmic consequences to
bad actions.  Accruing bad Karma and all that....

gloria p
Stephanie - 09 Jul 2008 20:39 GMT
> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> sentiment as of my friend? Or would it be to clear your conscience? Or
> because it's just the right thing to do?

Once upon a time, I was a bank teller. On my first day alone off of
training, I game someone $1k too much in cash. She could have walked away
with $1K more than she had withdrawn. I had no idea. She came in to the bank
and gave it back to me. (I did wrong that day and did not tell the bank.
Balanced to the penny.)

She said she brought it back because it was the right thing to do. And that
she was concerned for my job.

I would pay it. It is the right thing to do.

> Do you really believe that a good deed will affect your future
> happiness in same kind (not because of the peace of mind it brings)?
> Why/why not?

No. My father did LOTS of good deeds. He was a truely caring, wonderful
human being. He later suffered a horrible brain injury to be completely
incapacitated then dead.

Life can be joyous, horrible, wonderful, scary and all sorts of things.
One's actions definitely impact how things go. But they are no guarantee.

> If you won't return it, I would like to hear your logic as well.
>
> Thanks.
Banty - 10 Jul 2008 00:57 GMT
>> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of

>> Do you really believe that a good deed will affect your future
>> happiness in same kind (not because of the peace of mind it brings)?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Life can be joyous, horrible, wonderful, scary and all sorts of things.
>One's actions definitely impact how things go. But they are no guarantee.

Yeah.

I missed that part of the post, but, I agree.

In the sense that if one is the type to return the money, one's actions
concerning myriad and continuing *other* similar things gives one a reputation
such that one is trusted and liked.  In that way there's a sort of karma (and
it's a real thing).

But there's no mystical thing where if one is a Good Person, only Good Things
will happen to one.  Some real jerks seem to sail through life; some awful
misfortunes befall some really good people.  But that's all usually from all the
factors which people don't control.  There's a big area of life that one's
actions DO impact one's future which is more under one's influence by what other
people see one do day to day in little accumilating ways.  Ways that are
consistent with doing something like paying back a large sum of money, even if
people woulnd't know about that particular honest action.  And the jerks that
seem to sail through life are missing things that they don't know, and wouldn't
necessarily be visible to others, because people don't include them, don't trust
them, and they have stresses coming from their various conflicts.

Banty
dejablues - 10 Jul 2008 03:24 GMT
>> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
>> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> I would pay it. It is the right thing to do.

My husband cashed a paycheck and was given $500.00 too much cash due to a
teller error.
It was right before Christmas, he had just started this job, and we were
pretty much broke.
He took the money back, and since the bank hadn't finished their daily
accounting, it hadn't shown as missing so he pretty much had to force them
to take it back LOL.
He believes strongly in karma and in setting a good example, and it would
have been a very bad example for our children if he had kept the cash, plus
it would have caught up with him eventually when his boss got the bank
statement!
Stephanie - 16 Jul 2008 00:14 GMT
>>> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
>>> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> the cash, plus it would have caught up with him eventually when his
> boss got the bank statement!

What did his bank receipt say? If it did not say that $500 extra was
withdrawn, it would not have been found.
dejablues - 16 Jul 2008 05:20 GMT
>>>> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
>>>> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> What did his bank receipt say? If it did not say that $500 extra was
> withdrawn, it would not have been found.

The bank receipt did not show the extra $500.00 given to him.
However,  his employers account did show the missing $500.00. DH was one of
only three employees at the time, so they would have known where the missing
money was.
Marc - 10 Jul 2008 01:26 GMT
> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> If you won't return it, I would like to hear your logic as well.

I would pay it. And yes, I believe in 'you get what you give'.

A propos someone elses post, that doesn't guarantee a great life, but it
does make for strong support from one's nearest and dearest.

Marc
Froggy - 11 Jul 2008 20:30 GMT
> A friend discovered that she owed her kids' school a couple of
> thousand dollars. The school didn't realize it but my friend did. So
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Thanks.

Sometimes a good deed is just that, a good deed.  Just say thanks and
take her to dinner.

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