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Angie - 28 Oct 2003 07:15 GMT
I received several emails signed from Angela, Nancy and JayJay and others
asking me to leave both the newsgroup and the sanctuary only to find out, it
wasn't any of them.

So heads up, if you get emails asking you to leave along with detailed
information on how to leave both - double check with those people. Some one
is sending out emails posing as alt.moms.

BTW, now that I know the truth I'm not leaving.

Angie
GunnyGooGoos - 28 Oct 2003 07:32 GMT
You don't have to leave and shouldn't because someone wants you to.
Nan - 28 Oct 2003 16:39 GMT
>You don't have to leave and shouldn't because someone wants you to.

Precisely.  This is an open, unmoderated group.  Everyone can post
here as much or as little as they choose.  No matter what anyone,
lurker, troll or even regular poster may say.

Nan
toto - 28 Oct 2003 20:58 GMT
>I received several emails signed from Angela, Nancy and JayJay and others
>asking me to leave both the newsgroup and the sanctuary only to find out, it
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Angie

Angie, can you send me the headers of those emails?

I will see if I can trace down who is doing this and have them TOSsed.

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that can be heard unless someone listens ..

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michelle downunder - 28 Oct 2003 23:56 GMT
>I received several emails signed from Angela, Nancy and JayJay and others
>asking me to leave both the newsgroup and the sanctuary only to find out, it
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>BTW, now that I know the truth I'm not leaving.

have you looked at the headers, done a trace on them...?

>Angie

Michelle
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Night Owl - 29 Oct 2003 02:33 GMT
> >I received several emails signed from Angela, Nancy and JayJay and others
> >asking me to leave both the newsgroup and the sanctuary only to find out, it
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Michelle

I think that is important too!  I'm also a bit curious because if this
person knows how you could delete your account from the Sanctuary it's not a
good sign!  Maybe they were bluffing but if not it's serious!

Anni
michelle downunder - 29 Oct 2003 02:49 GMT
>I think that is important too!  I'm also a bit curious because if this
>person knows how you could delete your account from the Sanctuary it's not a
>good sign!  Maybe they were bluffing but if not it's serious!
>
>Anni

this actually concerns me... i dont think its likely to be an
anonymous lurker.

jayjay hasnt been jayjay for a while... and knowing how to delete
accounts from the Sanctuary is not a good pointer either as you say.
Michelle
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Taniwha grrrl - 29 Oct 2003 03:01 GMT
"michelle downunder" <sandseyshell@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
message

> jayjay hasnt been jayjay for a while... and knowing how to delete
> accounts from the Sanctuary is not a good pointer either as you say.

My guess is a lurker saw the recent sanctuary thread and
url, followed it and saw the 3 contact names at the bottom
of the page and used them.
Did the annon poster actually 'know' how to delete
membership from the sanctuary or just 'suggest' Angie do it?
Only if they revealed inside knowledge on what and how to
would I be sus of it being someone with site membership.

--
Andrea

If I can't be a good example, then I'll just have to be a
horrible warning.
Lead Foot Mama - 29 Oct 2003 03:09 GMT
> "michelle downunder" <sandseyshell@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> message
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> url, followed it and saw the 3 contact names at the bottom
> of the page and used them.

actually - my info is not on the sanct as a contact.   Nor is my email
address - and my name on email and sanct is not jayjay...  and as michelle
said - I haven't used jayjay on this group in quite a while.

Frankly, this is probably not a good topic of discussion in this forum, at
this time.  IYKWIM.
Lead Foot Mama - 29 Oct 2003 13:25 GMT
> > "michelle downunder" <sandseyshell@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
> > message
> >
> > > jayjay hasnt been jayjay for a while...

Correction to my previous post - I do have one computer I occasionally post
from that hasn't been switched over to LFM yet....   So there are still
occasional jayjay posts.
gale - 29 Oct 2003 15:26 GMT
> Correction to my previous post - I do have one computer I occasionally post
> from that hasn't been switched over to LFM yet....   So there are still
> occasional jayjay posts.

Yeah, that's right, confuse us!

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Lead Foot Mama - 29 Oct 2003 15:29 GMT
>> Correction to my previous post - I do have one computer I occasionally
>post
>> from that hasn't been switched over to LFM yet....   So there are still
>> occasional jayjay posts.
>
>Yeah, that's right, confuse us!

Oh yeah.  Ever hear the statement "pot calling the kettle black"..

And what be you posting at such late hour?  You vacationing at home or
something.   Get out and enjoy this beautimus weather that has
be-Fallen on us over night.   :)

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gale - 29 Oct 2003 20:36 GMT
> Oh yeah.  Ever hear the statement "pot calling the kettle black"..

Oh yeah?!?!?  Well, I just want to shake those bad stalkers!  talk about
crash courses in eb*y!

> And what be you posting at such late hour?  You vacationing at home or
> something.   Get out and enjoy this beautimus weather that has
> be-Fallen on us over night.   :)

Oh I have been enjoying the weather!  We walked Sea World until we wilted
yesterday, today I've spent making flower pics and pressing more flowers
[plumbago is really pretty when pressed via microwave!], and tomorrow will
be a trip to the McKee gardens in Vero.  This weather is just marvelous and
I'll take a couple months more please!

/funny DS story as an aside to the weather.......

For those of you who don't know, Florida is enjoying autumn and we had a
lovely "cold" front come through overnight last night.  That means it's cool
enough to put on jeans, probably in the mid 70's this afternoon.
Anyway......DS slept with all his windows wide open last night.  He wore a
cotton pair of PJ's, too, so he woke up a tad chilly.  As husband was making
breakfast I was going around the house opening curtains and such.  I got to
DS' room and started to open his shades and shut down the windows some as
the breeze was coming in quite strong.  Suddenly I realized he was back in
bed.  I asked him if he was dressed.

"It's too cold"  he responded.

I saw his pj's on the floor and said, "If you get some clothes on you will
be warmer."

"But my clothes are in my dresser."

Poor boy, naked under the covers, laying directly under the wide open
windows with the chilly northern breezes blowing in!

Ah, this weather is lovely!

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Nan - 29 Oct 2003 20:47 GMT
>Ah, this weather is lovely!
>
>-A-

Thhppppttttt!
It's been in the low 40s at night around here.
We've had the furnace on at night for the last 2 weeks.

Nan
enigma - 30 Oct 2003 00:42 GMT
>>Ah, this weather is lovely!
>
> Thhppppttttt!
> It's been in the low 40s at night around here.
> We've had the furnace on at night for the last 2 weeks.

you put the furnace on at night when it's only 40?
ok, i set mine to 55 so if it gets that cold in my office
(where the thermostat is) it will go on, but it hasn't yet. it
hasn't got below 65 inside yet (or at least not in my office.
it has in my room because i leave a window partly open). i do
kick it up to 70 when i get up, but if it's sunny, i turn it
back down to 60 by 9am or it gets too warm with the sun coming
in.... and my house isn't exactly insulated.
Nan - 30 Oct 2003 02:43 GMT
>>>Ah, this weather is lovely!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>back down to 60 by 9am or it gets too warm with the sun coming
>in.... and my house isn't exactly insulated.

Yep, we do.  This is an older mobile home with very poor insulation.
The floor is freezing in the morning without heat.

Nan
Teri - 29 Oct 2003 20:50 GMT
> > Oh yeah.  Ever hear the statement "pot calling the kettle black"..
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Oh I have been enjoying the weather!  We walked Sea World until we wilted

How did ds do walking w/the burns on his foot?  I've been sending
fast-healing vibes ... maybe they're working??
Teri

> yesterday, today I've spent making flower pics and pressing more flowers
> [plumbago is really pretty when pressed via microwave!], and tomorrow will
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> -A-
gale - 29 Oct 2003 23:06 GMT
> How did ds do walking w/the burns on his foot?  I've been sending
> fast-healing vibes ... maybe they're working??
> Teri

He did very well without a complaint.

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Lead Foot Mama - 29 Oct 2003 21:05 GMT
>> Oh yeah.  Ever hear the statement "pot calling the kettle black"..
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>lovely "cold" front come through overnight last night.  That means it's cool
>enough to put on jeans, probably in the mid 70's this afternoon.

Must be nice.   It was still raining down this way when I went to bed
last night.   Today I believ ethe highs are in the low 80's.  No 70's
here.  ALthough, I have not stepped outside since 8am this morning, so
I don't know what its really like out there.  

I'm looking forward to turning the AC back off tonight, opening the
windows and getting a good night's sleep again.   Its been rotten - as
its still too humid to go w/out AC, yet its cool enough that w/ the AC
on, its not kicking in, so I sleep like crap because there's no air
blowing around.

I'm also looking forward to camping this weekend.  :)

>Anyway......DS slept with all his windows wide open last night.  He wore a
>cotton pair of PJ's, too, so he woke up a tad chilly.  As husband was making
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Ah, this weather is lovely!

DS does this too.  Boys....  :-)
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gale - 30 Oct 2003 02:53 GMT
> Must be nice.   It was still raining down this way when I went to bed
> last night.   Today I believ ethe highs are in the low 80's.  No 70's
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I'm also looking forward to camping this weekend.  :)

Camping?  That sounds nice.  Where you going?
/whispers aside to those listening......I've had the a/c off for a month
now.....

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Lead Foot Mama - 30 Oct 2003 03:20 GMT
> > Must be nice.   It was still raining down this way when I went to bed
> > last night.   Today I believ ethe highs are in the low 80's.  No 70's
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> /whispers aside to those listening......I've had the a/c off for a month
> now.....

I don't know how you could stand to have the a/c off.   You must be much
further north than me.  :)    With the a/c off the house can get upwards of
85 during the day ... and the humidity - YUCK.   I hate doing that to the
cat and dog - let alone us humans.  :)

Camping - we are considering Fort Desoto - but they require reservations to
be made in person, so we are going up on a wing and a prayer that we can get
a spot in the petfriendly area on Saturday.    Wish we had the time to leave
on Friday and go to Ft. Wilderness for the weekend - that'd be cool.
gale - 30 Oct 2003 12:59 GMT
> I don't know how you could stand to have the a/c off.   You must be much
> further north than me.  :)    With the a/c off the house can get upwards of
> 85 during the day ... and the humidity - YUCK.   I hate doing that to the
> cat and dog - let alone us humans.  :)

Sounds like our area is a tad cooler than your's, but that our house opens
up better to catch the breezes, too.  With family home all day it helps in
keeping the sliding glass doors open and such as well.  But, as I point out
to husband every so often <VEG> since I lived for 35 years without a/c I'm
much more acclimated to being comfortable without it on than he, a Florida
native who grew up in a/c, is.  I really do think that that has something to
do with it.  I appreciate a/c, but I also dislike it because of how it cuts
me off from the fresh air, the bird songs, and the rest of the world.
Everyone in Florida seems to retreat into their a/c from May to October and
you don't see hide nor hair of them, and here we live in this outdoors'
lovers paradise!  Never ceases to amaze me.  But then again, I don't mind
mowing our lawn, with our push mower, in the middle of the summer in the
middle of the day.  I just need windshield wipers for my glasses....

> Camping - we are considering Fort Desoto - but they require reservations to
> be made in person, so we are going up on a wing and a prayer that we can get
> a spot in the petfriendly area on Saturday.    Wish we had the time to leave
> on Friday and go to Ft. Wilderness for the weekend - that'd be cool.

Oh, that sounds lovely.  I hope you get there in plenty of time to get a
great site!  Are you tenting?  Husband says that Alexander Springs is
beautiful.  I like Blue Springs and Rocks Springs State parks.  Maybe you
would enjoy those areas some time.

-A-
little one - 30 Oct 2003 14:29 GMT
i love fort desoto!!   i used to rollerblade down near the fort and the
pet friendly area.  i loved the fact that i could blade, see the ocean
and dolphins all at the same time!!

melanie
gale - 30 Oct 2003 21:35 GMT
> i love fort desoto!!   i used to rollerblade down near the fort and the
> pet friendly area.  i loved the fact that i could blade, see the ocean
> and dolphins all at the same time!!

Welcome to alt.moms, Melanie!  And, it sounds like we have another
Floridian, to boot!  yeah!  Nice to have you.  You know [insert wicked grin
here] that once you step out of lurk the rules say that you can't go back!

-A-
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michelle downunder - 30 Oct 2003 00:40 GMT
>Poor boy, naked under the covers, laying directly under the wide open
>windows with the chilly northern breezes blowing in!
>
>Ah, this weather is lovely!

bahhhhhwaahhh

boys are so funny...

i am patiently waiting for summer to arrive... in the northern parts
its there,  Kerry's area is nice and warm.... here its still winter.
Michelle
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gale - 30 Oct 2003 02:55 GMT
> bahhhhhwaahhh
>
> boys are so funny...
>
> i am patiently waiting for summer to arrive... in the northern parts
> its there,  Kerry's area is nice and warm.... here its still winter.

I love this time of year, and it comes twice.  It reminds me of the New
England summers and late spring times I enjoyed through about 35 years of my
life.  And I get it *twice* a year.  It's lovely.  So I get spring fever and
fall fever.

here's to hoping your warm weather arrives soon, but not in the too hot
dept.  I seem to recall that you all can get quite warm over there, rivaling
us in Florida in our warmer days.

-A-
michelle downunder - 30 Oct 2003 03:09 GMT
>> bahhhhhwaahhh
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>-A-

i like days in their low 20s (70's)

we get those twice a year too... sometimes hobart never made it that
high in summer ;-)

today was supposed to be 19 (67) but instead its 13 (55) at the mo...
i am cold.. i will have to go and put on some long pants...

yes we get hot here.... about low to mid 30's in summer as an average.
(85-100)

i miss my heat (not) of queensland, of long balmy nights... (sweating
like a pig with no a/c), swimming all day int he pool, (ge tting out
looking like a lobster, or the water being too hot to swim in)

But I dont miss the weather in Perth, where its consistently desert
hot... 40-42 (104-108)

We were thinking of moving back there.. slower pace of life than
here.. but DH cant handle the heat of that... this spring has shown
that...

So we are planning serious root growing, and I am trying to set up
support networks... cos according to the ot, dh might not have a
licence for much longer...
Michelle
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gale - 30 Oct 2003 12:55 GMT
> But I dont miss the weather in Perth, where its consistently desert
> hot... 40-42 (104-108)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> support networks... cos according to the ot, dh might not have a
> licence for much longer...

Do you drive, Michelle?  You are right, though, you need a good, and
extensive, support system.  If you are not members in a local church I'd
suggest attending one as that is a marvelous way to find consistent
support/assistance.  Your local MS support chapter [i assume they are in
Aussie land] should also be helpful, but knowing you, you've already been
scoping things out quite thoroughly.  I hope that Mike surprises the OT but
I do understand needing to be prepared at the same time one is hoping for
the best.

-A-
michelle downunder - 31 Oct 2003 09:33 GMT
>Do you drive, Michelle?  You are right, though, you need a good, and
>extensive, support system.  If you are not members in a local church I'd
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>I do understand needing to be prepared at the same time one is hoping for
>the best.

yeah i drive... i priced getting the car adapted for mike... so its a
good option...

the church would fall down if i walked in Aula...

the ms society are helpful, and yes we are sussing out the lay of the
land so to speak...

I would be lost with out certain people... unfortunately, my whining
post lives so far away... but she keeps nagging me to move ;-)

Michelle
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BrAtTy - 29 Oct 2003 03:09 GMT
>>I think that is important too!  I'm also a bit curious because if this
>>person knows how you could delete your account from the Sanctuary it's not a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>accounts from the Sanctuary is not a good pointer either as you say.
>Michelle

hmmm
but you can't delete your own account
only admins can delete accounts.

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and a wee Angel - July 2003
michelle downunder - 29 Oct 2003 03:16 GMT
>hmmm
>but you can't delete your own account
>only admins can delete accounts.

not true :-)
Michelle
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Nan - 29 Oct 2003 03:44 GMT
>hmmm
>but you can't delete your own account
>only admins can delete accounts.

No, members can delete themselves.  Admins used to be the ones that
did this, but that was changed quite a long time ago.

Nan
BrAtTy - 29 Oct 2003 03:43 GMT
>>hmmm
>>but you can't delete your own account
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Nan

Oh
ok
didn't realise that :-)
Maybe some computer whizz will be able to help get to the bottom of it

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and a wee Angel - July 2003
Nan - 29 Oct 2003 03:55 GMT
>Oh
>ok
>didn't realise that :-)

That's okay, I didn't know about it right away either ;-)

Nan
BrAtTy - 29 Oct 2003 03:57 GMT
>>Oh
>>ok
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Nan

so when I asked you to delete me awhile back, I could have done it
myself? I just couldn't have rejoined myself
lol

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and a wee Angel - July 2003
Nan - 29 Oct 2003 04:05 GMT
>>>Oh
>>>ok
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>myself? I just couldn't have rejoined myself
>lol

Yeah, but I didn't know it at the time, LOL!

Nan
BrAtTy - 29 Oct 2003 04:01 GMT
>>>>Oh
>>>>ok
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Yeah, but I didn't know it at the time, LOL!

lmao
can you see it now
"please delete me from the Sanct"

reply from admin

"do it yourself you lazy cow"

lmao
--

Sue
Mum to Tyler - April 2001
and a wee Angel - July 2003
Nan - 29 Oct 2003 04:13 GMT
>lmao
>can you see it now
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>lmao

heehee :-)

Nan
The Ranger - 29 Oct 2003 04:40 GMT
[snip]
> can you see it now
> "please delete me from the Sanct"
>
> reply from admin
> "do it yourself you lazy cow"

"I'm afraid my colonial friend says things that are a little earthy but
they're quite accurate."

The Ranger
gale - 29 Oct 2003 13:22 GMT
> this actually concerns me... i dont think its likely to be an
> anonymous lurker.
>
> jayjay hasnt been jayjay for a while... and knowing how to delete
> accounts from the Sanctuary is not a good pointer either as you say.

It should be noted, fwiw,  that the creator of the sanctuary is not at home
this week and probably does not have internet access where she is.

-A-
michelle downunder - 29 Oct 2003 21:54 GMT
>> this actually concerns me... i dont think its likely to be an
>> anonymous lurker.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>-A-

that actually never ever crossed my mind... other thoughts did.
Michelle
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