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Family Forum / Parenting / Mothers / March 2005Silly Ponderings?
I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake pedal... What about you? Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau >I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left > hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Michelle you are delirious woman. Go and have a rest. ;) christine > -- > If a man does not keep pace with his companions, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Henry David Thoreau >you are delirious woman. Go and have a rest. ;) no i am not! if we merks cars are opposite of ours, are their pedals the opposite too? Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau > if we merks cars are opposite of ours, are their pedals the opposite > too? good question :)  SignatureLeanne -------------------------------- I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lstacherski/album?.dir=/1b24&.src=ph&.tok=ph_0B GCBvVMFF54J >>you are delirious woman. Go and have a rest. ;) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Michelle Gas pedal is on the right side, to the left of that is the brake, to the left of that is the clutch (on standards only). >Gas pedal is on the right side, to the left of that is the brake, to the >left of that is the clutch (on standards only). okay, so its the same as ours, but not onthe right side... ;-) we drive with our right foot on the accelerator... Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau >>Gas pedal is on the right side, to the left of that is the brake, to the >>left of that is the clutch (on standards only). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Michelle Well, so do we...the driver sits on the left side of the car though. >>you are delirious woman. Go and have a rest. ;) > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > - Henry David Thoreau > I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left > hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake > pedal... The question would be, is where is your gear shift? I sit on the left side to drive...that's where the wheel is, gear shift is on the right between the seats. And I drive on the RIGHT side of the road. (G) > What about you? > > Michelle > The question would be, is where is your gear shift? only if its a manual :) SignatureLeanne -------------------------------- I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lstacherski/album?.dir=/1b24&.src=ph&.tok=ph_0B GCBvVMFF54J >> The question would be, is where is your gear shift? > > only if its a manual :) Exactly. :) >The question would be, is where is your gear shift? well my car is and auto.. lol so its on the console, as are four on the floor stick shift's. >I sit on the left side to drive...that's where the wheel is, gear shift is >on the right between the seats. And I drive on the RIGHT side of the road. > (G) no you drive on the wrong side ;-) Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau >>The question would be, is where is your gear shift? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Michelle Nope...the US drives on the right side and the entire rest of the world is backwards. (VBG) > I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left > hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Henry David Thoreau Furthermore some of us drive Foreign made cars which are different then the American made cars by a bit. I can't say much about it but I remember when my dad had a Ford and it was definitely different than the Toyota's I usually drive. Anni >> I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left >> hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Anni Yep...I have two Fords...and I used to have a Toyota. The Fords are still running, I'm still driving them both...the Toyota is in a salvage yard gathering rust. Yep, they're definitely different. (BG) >> Furthermore some of us drive Foreign made cars which are >> different then the American made cars by a bit. I can't >> say much about it but I remember when my dad had a Ford >> and it was definitely different than the Toyota's I >> usually drive. > Yep...I have two Fords...and I used to have a Toyota. > The Fords are still running, I'm still driving them > both...the Toyota is in a salvage yard gathering rust. > Yep, they're definitely different. (BG) we have 2 Fords (F250 & Focus), a Honda CR-V, & a 1954 Dodge Powerwagon M37... my ex had a Toyota. it was a piece of crap (the frame was bent on delivery & they wouldn't repair/replace. said nothing was wrong even though it cracked 4 windshields in less than 2 years & ate tires like candy... not to mention it didn't like to start if it was below freezing & if you did get it started the accelerator stuck open...). then, when i was shopping for a new pickup after my Datsun bit the dust at 250k miles, i was insulted by a Toyota dealer ("what would a cute little girl like you need a pickup truck for?"). i would NEVER buy a Toyota. i love my CR-V, but i won't get another when this one dies... i don't like the newer ones. they get poorer gas mileage & they're less practical/more soccer mom. not something i can load the goats in the back & go... <sigh> lee >Yep...I have two Fords...and I used to have a Toyota. > >The Fords are still running, I'm still driving them both...the Toyota is >in a salvage yard gathering rust. my ford is gone, rubbishy thing ;-) vive la holden!!! Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau > > I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left > > hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Anni I've had the opposite luck. When I married dh he wanted to convert me to American made cars and I even wanted a Jeep. We had a horrid time with the electronics in the cars and trucks... one very minor accident absolutely totaled the jeep... just a slightly bent front fender that at first seemed minor ended up affecting the door after about an hour of driving... (we were niked by someone driving to close) When we went to get it assessed they said the metal bends slowly over a bit of time and that is how the door ended up stuck even though it wasn't at first. Also they said that the knock to the jeep really messed up the inner frame bad so they totalled it. I've had minor benders in 2 of my 4 toyotas that I've had over time and nothing like this had ever occurred. My dad's ford had one thing after another wrong with it. This is why I remember it. The windows didn't stay up and randomly would fall down w/o anyone touching the window crank... also he went through 3 transmissions in that thing and they never admitted to there being a defect in it. It was also expensive to repair. My dad went and got another Ford and it was no better... windows worked but after a few years he had made many many repairs to it and finally agreed with my mom to get a Toyota... we are a family of Toyota's and now dh has a Nissan. We have hardly ever had repairs to them... maintenance is cheap and they drive like dreams. Dh is very hard on his cars and trucks too and this Nissan is a gem. We also absolutely loved our Volvo's but decided that repair and maintenance was too exclusive and expensive to do (your regular mechanics often can't repair them you have to take them to one of the fewer volvo dealers in the city) But what I was referring to in this post was that some of the gear shifts and dashboard dodads are different in Foreign cars than American cars. I think the petals are the same though and of course in America we all drive on the same side of the road. Anni >> > I sit in my car on the right hand side. I drive my car on the left >> > hand side of the road. My accelerator is on the right, then brake [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > often can't repair them you have to take them to one of the fewer volvo > dealers in the city) I think the worst cars I've ever owned were made overseas. A Yugo. (A total piece of crap) Three Hyundais (biggest pieces of crap in the world next to the Yugo, I didn't learn my lesson with the first one) A Datsun F10 (total junk) I admit, the only decent one was a Toyota Corolla I bought for my wife...it's got 186K and still kicking...barely. Both my Fords have over 250K on them, one can still smoke the tires and do a high 13 in the quarter, top out at 150mph...and it's a high performance V8. (The Mustang) The other has outlasted five cars (all foreign made) that my parents have had since I first bought it...along with all but one that I and my wife have owned. It's 4 Wheel drive and also a V8, and it's still kicking. (The Bronco) Both vehicles are over 20 years old (27 for the Bronco). Yes, I've had problems with them in the past...but the point is, they're cheaper to fix and easier to work on than foreign cars and don't come without all the electronic crap that comes with cars less then 20 years old. You mentioned the frames on them, at least they have them...it's been my experience with small foreign cars, that they don't *have* a frame...twist the unibody once, and the car is history. Plus, I'd rather hit something in my Mustang instead of my wifes Corolla, at least I know I'd walk away in one piece. The description you've made about American made cars is the same kind of luck I have with cars made overseas. (BG) And I do admit...it's a matter of opinion and personal preferences. But give me my Mustang GT any day over a Corolla...(VBG) And no...I'm not being critical, I'm just being a smartass. Okay...I am being critical. (BG) > But what I was referring to in this post was that some of the > gear shifts and dashboard dodads are different in Foreign cars than American > cars. I think the petals are the same though and of course in America we > all drive on the same side of the road. > > Anni The other has outlasted five cars (all foreign made) > that my parents have had since I first bought it...along with all but one > that I and my wife have owned. My 4 -runner has 140k miles and haven't made a repair on it since I got it at 36k miles... basically change the oil, tires and a few worn minor parts and you are good to go. > It's 4 Wheel drive and also a V8, and it's still kicking. (The Bronco) They don't make Bronco's anymore for a good reason. > Both vehicles are over 20 years old (27 for the Bronco). Yes, I've had > problems with them in the past...but the point is, they're cheaper to fix > and easier to work on than foreign cars and don't come without all the > electronic crap that comes with cars less then 20 years old. Depends on the car... yep the volvo's were a heap of money but my 4-runner I can take anywhere and they can fix it inexpensive (not cheap... cheap isn't good) ; ) You mentioned > the frames on them, at least they have them...it's been my experience with > small foreign cars, that they don't *have* a frame...twist the unibody > once, and the car is history. Plus, I'd rather hit something in my Mustang > instead of my wifes Corolla, at least I know I'd walk away in one piece. I haven't really seen a car other than our Volvo that held up to that test. I will admit my Toyota's don't have much for body either. > The description you've made about American made cars is the same kind of > luck I have with cars made overseas. (BG) I know my dh's Nissan I don't care for... really it's a good car but Nissan isn't my favorite company.... But I haven't seen much for American made car companies either... consumer reports overall hasn't seen much from the either. (SBG) > And I do admit...it's a matter of opinion and personal preferences. But > give me my Mustang GT any day over a Corolla...(VBG) Okay... I'll give you the Mustang over the corolla... I loved my mom's mustang but basically the older ones are better... we had one in the 60's and it was a love! Darn I wish they had kept it! > And no...I'm not being critical, I'm just being a smartass. You... nahhhhhhhhhhhhh! > Okay...I am being critical. (BG) Never!!!!!!!! /choke! Anni > The other has outlasted five cars (all foreign made) >> that my parents have had since I first bought it...along with all but one [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > They don't make Bronco's anymore for a good reason. They were replaced by the Expedition, which are actually a terrible vehicle offroad compared to the Broncos. They quit production of the Broncos in 2001 because of a change in 'pace'. It had nothing to do with safety, it had to do with cost. They didn't have a 33 year run for nothing...sort of like the Pontiac Trans Ams. Mine is a 1978, and I'd put it against any new 4x4 on the road today. I've had to pull quite a few out that claim to be better, with little effort at all, including the infamous Jeeps. (BG) >> Both vehicles are over 20 years old (27 for the Bronco). Yes, I've had >> problems with them in the past...but the point is, they're cheaper to fix [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can take anywhere and they can fix it inexpensive (not cheap... cheap isn't > good) ; ) I can do that with my Bronco...full sized, and offroad is it's element. I fix it myself, I've never taken it in for someone else to work on it. > You mentioned >> the frames on them, at least they have them...it's been my experience with [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > companies either... consumer reports overall hasn't seen much from the > either. (SBG) Well...agreed. Not nowadays, but the cars 30 years ago were so much different too. I suppose that's why I'm so stuck on mine. One was made in the 80's, and the other was in the late 70's. >> And I do admit...it's a matter of opinion and personal preferences. But >> give me my Mustang GT any day over a Corolla...(VBG) > > Okay... I'll give you the Mustang over the corolla... I loved my mom's > mustang but basically the older ones are better... we had one in the 60's > and it was a love! Darn I wish they had kept it! I'll agree with this one. Mine is really the only one I've ever seen with so many miles on it and running as well as it does. >> And no...I'm not being critical, I'm just being a smartass. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Anni LOL They quit production of the > Broncos in 2001 because of a change in 'pace'. It had nothing to do with > safety, it had to do with cost. They didn't have a 33 year run for > nothing...sort of like the Pontiac Trans Ams. that and oj simpson couldn't get away in it! <BG> a dear friend couldn't have unloaded his by paying someone to take it after that. > >> Both vehicles are over 20 years old (27 for the Bronco). Yes, I've had > >> problems with them in the past...but the point is, they're cheaper to fix > >> and easier to work on than foreign cars and don't come without all the > >> electronic crap that comes with cars less then 20 years old. I don't think the Toyota's carry much more electronics than they ever did... practically nothing under the hood is electronic but my jeep was an electronic nightmare. > Well...agreed. Not nowadays, but the cars 30 years ago were so much > different too. I suppose that's why I'm so stuck on mine. One was made in > the 80's, and the other was in the late 70's. Oh and I can go there... most of them if not all of them were made better body wise and there were just things that felt better. I still really really love my Toyota though now... gem of a car. > > Okay... I'll give you the Mustang over the corolla... I loved my mom's > > mustang but basically the older ones are better... we had one in the 60's > > and it was a love! Darn I wish they had kept it! > > I'll agree with this one. Mine is really the only one I've ever seen with > so many miles on it and running as well as it does. We have a friend who collects them. He actually gets great deals on them. Restores them and they are wonderful. Anni > They quit production of the >> Broncos in 2001 because of a change in 'pace'. It had nothing to do with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >a dear friend couldn't have unloaded his by paying someone to take it after >that. ROFL...okay, I'll concede to that. :) >> >> Both vehicles are over 20 years old (27 for the Bronco). Yes, I've had >> >> problems with them in the past...but the point is, they're cheaper to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >practically nothing under the hood is electronic but my jeep was an >electronic nightmare. I like being able to open the hood of my truck and see an engine...with a carb instead of a bunch of wires and hoses. Hard to find the engine when it's buried under a bunch of unnecessary junk. >> Well...agreed. Not nowadays, but the cars 30 years ago were so much >> different too. I suppose that's why I'm so stuck on mine. One was made in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >body wise and there were just things that felt better. I still really >really love my Toyota though now... gem of a car. :) Good, of course you know...we're both biased towards any other type of car except for the ones that work for us. :) >> > Okay... I'll give you the Mustang over the corolla... I loved my mom's >> > mustang but basically the older ones are better... we had one in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >We have a friend who collects them. He actually gets great deals on them. >Restores them and they are wonderful. I love them...the most attractive sports car in existence IMO. And the new ones are actually something I would *loooove* to have... the 2005 Mustangs are the best car they've produced in that line since the mid 80's. They're finally back on track. >Anni -- X > My 4 -runner has 140k miles and haven't made a repair on it > since I got it at 36k miles... basically change the oil, > tires and a few worn minor parts and you are good to go. i hope you've replaced the timing belt at least! you won't know it's bad 'til it goes & takes your engine with it. *always* replace timing belts around 100k miles. lee > > My 4 -runner has 140k miles and haven't made a repair on it > > since I got it at 36k miles... basically change the oil, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > lee Duly noted...but I've never replaced timing belts on any of my Toyota's thoough and on into 200,000 miles I've not had a problem. Anni >> > My 4 -runner has 140k miles and haven't made a repair on it >> > since I got it at 36k miles... basically change the oil, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Anni HA! Me either! (BG) > I think the worst cars I've ever owned were made overseas. yup, Yugos & Hyundais are made overseas. almost all Toyotas, Hondas & Nissans in the US/Canadian markets are made in the US or Canada. Fords, Chevies, et al *all* are made from predominantly foreign parts now. there's no such thing as an "American Made" car anymore. therefore, brand loyalty is not really in my criteria for automobile purchase. what *i* hate is the yuppification of work vehicles. i do NOT care what my truck looks like. it isn't going to be pretty after i've been working it for a couple weeks anyway. it gets scratched & dented. i don't care if it has a 6 CD changer & plushy seats. in fact, i'd prefer it *didn't* have plushy seats & carpeting. it's a bear getting hay & sand out of plushy seats & carpeting. i want a work vehicle, not a driveway trophy. <grump> lee >> I think the worst cars I've ever owned were made overseas. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Made" car anymore. therefore, brand loyalty is not really in > my criteria for automobile purchase. Mine is too old for that. (BG) Even the replacement parts are made in the US, and they're universal with any Ford truck from the years 78 and 79. > what *i* hate is the yuppification of work vehicles. i do NOT > care what my truck looks like. it isn't going to be pretty [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > i want a work vehicle, not a driveway trophy. <grump> > lee >>> I think the worst cars I've ever owned were made >>> overseas. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mine is too old for that. (BG) only because you live in an area where there is no snow & therefore no layers of salt. up here in the frozen North we don't usually have the luxury of keeping rust free vehicles. i'm actually pretty amazed that my CR-V is 7 years old, 155k miles and has NO rust. it's even got the original exhaust! this makes me hopeful that i won't need to buy a new vehicle for at least another 7 years or so ;) i *hate* shopping for cars when i know i'm not going to like any of them & will have to settle for something sub-optimal for my vehicle uses :p lee >>>> I think the worst cars I've ever owned were made >>>> overseas. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > only because you live in an area where there is no snow & > therefore no layers of salt. Yep! How true. (BG) However, I lived in New Mexico for 17 years...and it's exactly like that in the winter. They frequently salt the roads and use the big sand trucks with the plows on the front. Eats up the undercarriage like crazy, unless you have it treated. Most people don't do that though. > up here in the frozen North we > don't usually have the luxury of keeping rust free vehicles. Well...trust me, my truck and Mustang aren't rust free. The humidity here causes just as much damage as salt. My Mustang didn't have a spot of rust on it till we moved down here. LOL > i'm actually pretty amazed that my CR-V is 7 years old, 155k > miles and has NO rust. it's even got the original exhaust! LOL > this makes me hopeful that i won't need to buy a new vehicle > for at least another 7 years or so ;) i *hate* shopping for > cars when i know i'm not going to like any of them & will have > to settle for something sub-optimal for my vehicle uses :p > lee I won't buy another new vehicle for the simple fact that I really can't afford one...maybe one of these days... >Furthermore some of us drive Foreign made cars which are different then the >American made cars by a bit. I can't say much about it but I remember when >my dad had a Ford and it was definitely different than the Toyota's I >usually drive. but your foot layout is the same in all cars isnt it? i know the wheel column is different here too , with indicators on opposite sides, the wipers on the dash etc... but the foot pedals are always the same. Michelle -- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Henry David Thoreau > >Furthermore some of us drive Foreign made cars which are different then the > >American made cars by a bit. I can't say much about it but I remember when > >my dad had a Ford and it was definitely different than the Toyota's I > >usually drive. > > > but your foot layout is the same in all cars isnt it? Yes > i know the wheel column is different here too , with indicators on > opposite sides, the wipers on the dash etc... but the foot pedals are > always the same. That is it! Anni > Michelle > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Henry David Thoreau |
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