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Froggy - 26 Apr 2005 18:35 GMT
I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester and the
inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  Can I dye it?  On
the comforter it says no bleach but what about dye?  Any Ideas?  I was also
thinking of tea dying it.
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Bell Jar - 26 Apr 2005 19:16 GMT
>I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester and the
>inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  Can I dye it?
>On the comforter it says no bleach but what about dye?  Any Ideas?  I was
>also thinking of tea dying it.

Can you wash it?
I have been hand painting wool for the last several days ... my hands are
pink, green, blue, red, and what ever you get when you mix all of that
together. lol
The reason I ask if you can wash it .. is that if you can't submerse it into
water, you may be able to use a spray bottle.  It depends on the effect you
are looking for.  If you want something wild or tame, something solid or
varied in depth of color or the colors themselves.  (as in 4 shades of green
or whatever).
RIT dye is pretty good.  Tea staining is a great effect however you will
need a LOT of tea to do a comforter.  I would also suggest that you use a
super sized washing machine, if you want to be certain to get an even effect
your going to need a huge area.
I can't imagine dyeing a down comforter in the bathtub, I think it would be
way to heavy for one person and drying it may be very difficult.  You
wouldn't be able to put a soaking wet comforter into the dryer, It would end
up being to heavy and wet.
Another option would be to make a cover for it out of 2 flat sheets.  Sew
the 2 sheets together on all 4 sides (right sides together) but for about 16
inches on one corner.  The sheet cover should be about 2 inches bigger than
the comforter.  Lay the comforter out and the sheet cover on top of it.
Fold in the 2 opposite corners and then roll up to the hole.
You then turn it right side out and the comforter will magically ;) be in
just the right spot.
Then hand sew the 16 inches that was the hole turning in the raw edges.
ok .. i know you didn't want cover instructions.... but once I started, I
couldn't stop! lol
Froggy - 26 Apr 2005 19:24 GMT
> Can you wash it?

Yep but it says to use a front loading washer.

>> I can't imagine dyeing a down comforter in the bathtub,
I have a big garden tub that I was thinking of using.

> Another option would be to make a cover for it out of 2 flat sheets.  Sew
> the 2 sheets together on all 4 sides (right sides together) but for about
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> ok .. i know you didn't want cover instructions.... but once I started, I
> couldn't stop! lol

Great idea however I have no sewing machine.  lol I'm not a seamstress by
any means.... LOL.  About the tea idea  How much tea would you think I'd
need?  I'm just so tired of WHITE!
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Bell Jar - 26 Apr 2005 19:51 GMT
>> Can you wash it?
>
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> any means.... LOL.  About the tea idea  How much tea would you think I'd
> need?  I'm just so tired of WHITE!
It depends on how dark you want it and what shade.  I would only go w/ tea
if you are ok w/ it not being solid.
You may need to do it 4,5 or even 6 times to get it as dark as you want.  If
you want it to be on the green side, use green tea ... it will still be tan
.. but have a green cast.
for the first wash I would brew at least 5 gal of tea w/ at least 30 tea
bags.
Ericka Kammerer - 26 Apr 2005 21:01 GMT
<snip instructions on making a cover>

> Great idea however I have no sewing machine.  lol I'm not a seamstress by
> any means.... LOL.  About the tea idea  How much tea would you think I'd
> need?  I'm just so tired of WHITE!

    Why not consider buying a duvet cover?  They're sometimes
pricey, but you can often get really good deals on clearance.  *And*,
if you bought one that wasn't the right color, it would likely
be a heck of a lot easier to dye just the cover.  Plus, by putting the
comforter in a cover, you cut down on the number of times you
need to wash the comforter, which is really helpful given how
big and awkward they are.

Best wishes,
Ericka
Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:12 GMT
>     Why not consider buying a duvet cover?  They're sometimes
> pricey, but you can often get really good deals on clearance.  

TJ Maxx, Marshall's, Tuesday Morning.
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Mermaid - 27 Apr 2005 05:01 GMT
> > Why not consider buying a duvet cover?  They're sometimes
> > pricey, but you can often get really good deals on clearance.
>
> TJ Maxx, Marshall's, Tuesday Morning.

There are a few bargain   places on-line too... I got mine cheapo online
(but of course bought a few other things cheap-o too and it ended up being
more money! LOL!0

Anni
CY - 27 Apr 2005 06:49 GMT
And I just saw some beautiful ones today at Ikea (I know they are not
everywhere though) on sale.  It was only $16.99 for a KING size.  I woulda
bought it if I were not broke right now!

> > Why not consider buying a duvet cover?  They're sometimes
> > pricey, but you can often get really good deals on clearance.
>
> TJ Maxx, Marshall's, Tuesday Morning.
Bell Jar - 27 Apr 2005 14:16 GMT
you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky to have an Ikea!  It's a 2 1/2 drive for me :(

> And I just saw some beautiful ones today at Ikea (I know they are not
> everywhere though) on sale.  It was only $16.99 for a KING size.  I woulda
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Iuil - 27 Apr 2005 14:30 GMT
> you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky to have an Ikea!  It's a 2 1/2 drive for me
:(

It's a 3 hour ferry trip to the UK followed by a 2 hour drive for me ...

Jean
Bell Jar - 27 Apr 2005 15:26 GMT
>> you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky to have an Ikea!  It's a 2 1/2 drive for me
> :(
>
> It's a 3 hour ferry trip to the UK followed by a 2 hour drive for me ...
>
> Jean

oi!
I was VERY happy to get the catalog this time around ... but there is so
much MORE in the store.
Puester - 27 Apr 2005 16:47 GMT
> you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky to have an Ikea!  It's a 2 1/2 drive for me :(

Hah!  That would be a once a month trip for me, probably.

Our nearest IKEA is a Two day drive (1100 miles).   :-(

gloria p
Mermaid - 28 Apr 2005 19:40 GMT
> you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky to have an Ikea!  It's a 2 1/2 drive for me
:(

It's about 1 1/2 hours.  A new one... opened around Christmas time.  I just
went for the first time about a month ago and regretably took dh (who only
wanted a few hours there... bahh!)

I got a 200 dollar gc for Christmas and I still have over 100 left.... I can
hardly wait to go back!

Anni
Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:11 GMT
(Kat snipped)
> > Another option would be to make a cover for it out of 2 flat
> > sheets.  Sew the 2 sheets together on all 4 sides (right sides
(snip)
> Great idea however I have no sewing machine.  lol I'm not a seamstress by
> any means.... LOL.  About the tea idea  How much tea would you think I'd
> need?  I'm just so tired of WHITE!

Get a duvet, Shelly.  Removable and washable.
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Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:10 GMT
> >I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester
> >and the inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  
> >Can I dye it? On the comforter it says no bleach but what about dye?
> > Any Ideas?  I was also thinking of tea dying it.
> > -- ~Froggy~
(snip) I would also
> suggest that you use a super sized washing machine, if you want to be
> certain to get an even effect

I've never seen a commercial laundromat that would allow their machines
to be be used for dyeing anything.
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and then they believe it."  - Janet Tidemann, April 9, 2005

Mermaid - 26 Apr 2005 19:32 GMT
> I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester and the
> inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  Can I dye it?  On
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> ~Froggy~
> Frog parking only <---->  all others will be Toad.

All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the purpose of
down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our down comforter
covered with a down cover) then you can likely remove it and dye the
comforter cover but otherwise if it is true down the comforter needs to be
dry cleaned to maintain the integrity of the down.

Anni
Froggy - 26 Apr 2005 19:48 GMT
> All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the purpose of
> down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our down comforter
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>
> Anni

Thanks Anni
I wasn't sure.  but it says that it can be washed?
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Bell Jar - 26 Apr 2005 20:13 GMT
>> All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the purpose of
>> down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our down comforter
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> Thanks Anni
> I wasn't sure.  but it says that it can be washed?
A washing machine is going to spin out a lot of the water and the cycles are
quick, not like soaking it in a tub.
I bet that is why the call for a FL and not a TL.
Ericka Kammerer - 26 Apr 2005 23:27 GMT
>>>All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the purpose of
>>>down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our down comforter
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> quick, not like soaking it in a tub.
> I bet that is why the call for a FL and not a TL.

    You can wash down--I've done it often.  The main reason for
the front loader is that it doesn't have the agitator, which can
be really hard on a comforter.  You just wash them and then dry
them in the dryer with a few clean tennis balls to fluff everything
back up.  Works like a charm.  With respect to the dying, I would
worry that it would be a really awkward job, plus polyester isn't
the greatest for taking a dye.  I'd buy a cheap comforter cover,
either one in a color I liked or a cotton one that could be dyed
easily.

Best wishes,
Ericka
enigma - 26 Apr 2005 21:34 GMT
>> All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away
>> the purpose of down.  If the cover can be removed somehow
>> (we have our down comforter covered with a down cover)
>> then you can likely remove it and dye the comforter cover
>> but otherwise if it is true down the comforter needs to be
>> dry cleaned to maintain the integrity of the down.

> Thanks Anni
>  I wasn't sure.  but it says that it can be washed?

in an industrial sized front loader. if you wash it in a top
loader, kiss it goodbye.
you also need an indusrial size front load dryer & a couple
pairs of clean sneakers to dry it. if you put it in a dryer
without the sneakers to bang around & break up the clumps of
down, you ruin it.
lee
Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:08 GMT
(snip)
> > Thanks Anni
> >  I wasn't sure.  but it says that it can be washed?
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>  without the sneakers to bang around & break up the clumps of down,
>  you ruin it.

> lee

<grin> I should have read your reply first, Lee.
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enigma - 26 Apr 2005 23:51 GMT
> (snip)
>> > Thanks Anni
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>
> <grin> I should have read your reply first, Lee.

oh, i've been not so nice to my down comforters in the past ;)
i can't say i've seen one with a polyester cover, but since
i'm allergic to polyester i haven't really looked either. i do
know that polyester just won't dye though. stupid plastics :)
lee
Froggy - 27 Apr 2005 00:09 GMT
> oh, i've been not so nice to my down comforters in the past ;)
> i can't say i've seen one with a polyester cover, but since
> i'm allergic to polyester i haven't really looked either. i do
> know that polyester just won't dye though. stupid plastics :)
> lee

The thing is... it doesn't Feel like polyester!  i was surprised when I read
the tag.
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enigma - 27 Apr 2005 11:43 GMT
>> oh, i've been not so nice to my down comforters in the
>> past ;) i can't say i've seen one with a polyester cover,
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> The thing is... it doesn't Feel like polyester!  i was
> surprised when I read the tag.

there are some really beautiful poly fabrics out now... and i
have to avoid them :(  oddly enough, i can smell polyester.
there seem to be different types of polyester fibers now
though, so i may attempt to try some of the newer fabrics. i'm
also allergic to formaldihyde, which all fabrics are treated
with, so any new fabric coming into my house goes straight to
the washing machine (no matter if it says washable or not.
IME, the worst that ever happens is shrinkage & once in a
while dye runs. some silk can shrink over 25% & get 'hard' if
you use hot water, so i'm a little more careful with silks).
feathers are also washable but they are really delicate. they
take dye nicely. if you have old hat feathers you can
carefully wash them (air dry only!) & they should look almost
new.
lee
Mermaid - 26 Apr 2005 21:44 GMT
> > All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the purpose of
> > down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our down comforter
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> ~Froggy~
> Frog parking only <---->  all others will be Toad.

Then I guess you can wash it?  I know down has a layer of oily substance on
it... like the duck that stays insulated because his feathers have a layer
of something that keeps water from soaking him (hence the saying... rolls
off like water on a ducks back)  Anyhow it protects the feathers and keeps
them fluffy so washing it could ruin that effect.

If it says you can wash it then I guess you can.. maybe it's a different
kind of down than I have in mine?

Anni>
Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:06 GMT
> > All I know is down cannot get wet or it rather takes away the
> > purpose of down.  If the cover can be removed somehow (we have our
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > integrity of the down.
> > Anni

> Thanks Anni
>  I wasn't sure.  but it says that it can be washed?

It can be washed.  Carefully.  And dried more carefully.  Check the
instructions.  A couple tennis balls or sneakers are often put in the
dryer with the down item to keep the down from bunching up.  Personally,
I'd let a pro do it.
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Stara Baba - 26 Apr 2005 23:04 GMT
> > I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester
> > and the inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Anni

If the down needs cleaning, Cookie Vanous at the Czech Feather & Down
Company does fine work.  She'll add down to pillows, too, if you want
her to.  FWIW.
<http://www.czechfeatherdownco.com/>
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enigma - 26 Apr 2005 21:30 GMT
> I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100%
> polyester and the inside is down feathers.  I want to dye
> it a light green.  Can I dye it?  On the comforter it says
> no bleach but what about dye?  Any Ideas?  I was also
> thinking of tea dying it.

that's why they invented duvet covers...
first, polyester will NOT take any kind of dye that would be
safe to use at home, including tea. plus, if you soak the
feathers in hot water, they will clump & ruin the comforter.
the easiest way to make it look different is a duvet cover.
they come in tons of colors, patterns & materials. they keep
the down comforter clean (it's much easier to whip off the
cover & toss in the washer) & they'll make it last longer.
those things are expensive :)
lee
Froggy - 26 Apr 2005 21:53 GMT
> that's why they invented duvet covers...
> first, polyester will NOT take any kind of dye that would be
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> those things are expensive :)
> lee

Thanks everyone... looks like a cover is the way to go.
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dejablues - 26 Apr 2005 23:23 GMT
> > that's why they invented duvet covers...
> > first, polyester will NOT take any kind of dye that would be
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks everyone... looks like a cover is the way to go.

We have 3 or 4 duvets, they've accumulated over the years. A Duvet helps
keep feathers from flying around the bedroom, even the supposedly down-proof
ones still let down out.
I have washed down conforters in the past, by hand, in the bathtub. We had
an spiteful cat that peed on it a couple of times.  It lost some of the
feahers, but otherwise it was OK.
Nan - 27 Apr 2005 21:53 GMT
>Thanks everyone... looks like a cover is the way to go.

You might try looking here:

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=434615

Nan
Mermaid - 28 Apr 2005 15:31 GMT
> http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=434615
>
> Nan

one of my favorite sites!

A
Bateau - 29 Apr 2005 03:06 GMT
>I have a King size white down comforter.  The top is 100% polyester and the
>inside is down feathers.  I want to dye it a light green.  Can I dye it?  On
>the comforter it says no bleach but what about dye?  Any Ideas?  I was also
>thinking of tea dying it.

Can't you just wait until some of your skin pigment soaks in?
 
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