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Family Forum / Parenting / Mothers / May 2005Google vs. Others?
Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been tampered with and made useless. Are there ANY other choices out there for pulling USENET posts out of the dark? Many thanks. The Ranger > Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been > tampered with and made useless. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Ranger Yahoo works and http://www.talkaboutparenting.com/group/alt.mothers/ >Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been >tampered with and made useless. > >Are there ANY other choices out there for pulling USENET posts out of >the dark? There are quite a few free servers you can set up in your newsreader, but many of them don't allow posting and a lot of them show your ISP in clear if they do allow posting. You can find a list here: http://www.newzbot.com/ I set up a bunch in mozilla to see if they worked. The problem is they don't all carry all the groups you want, especially alt. groups. You can search by group on that list and figure out which servers carry most of the groups you read. >Many thanks. > >The Ranger -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits ==> Free news servers <== I've got several news feeds already (x-privat.org being VERY reliable.) I was hoping for an archiving tool similar to the old DejaGoog where articles that participants had posted in the past were still available for review. I don't use x-no archive and several posts to a particular group are not available, as in they don't exist -- according to Google -- even though I have "proof" sitting in an old file. The Ranger >I don't use x-no archive and several posts to a particular group are not >available, as in they don't exist -- according to Google -- even though >I have "proof" sitting in an old file. What did you search by? They are probably still out there, but the new interface doesn't seem to catch everything it should in searchs. Try searching the Indian or UK google at http://www.google.co.in./advanced_group_search or http://www.google.co.uk./advanced_group_search They still have the old interface, I think. The beta is a mess, imo. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits > > I don't use x-no archive and several posts to a particular > > group are not available, as in they don't exist -- according > > to Google -- even though I have "proof" sitting in an old file. > > What did you search by? My address, date, message number, and key words/phrases using groups.google.ca. Still nothing returned. I then went generic using date and name. I wasn't aware of so many "ranger" uses out there. <G> Still no hits. > They are probably still out there, but the new interface doesn't > seem to catch everything it should in searchs. It doesn't do anything but create a difficult-to-read jumble. > Try searching the Indian or UK google > at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They still have the old interface, I think. The beta is a mess, imo. I'll give 'em a try... I'm not hopeful, though. The Ranger >==> Free news servers <== > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >The Ranger Can you use the message ids to search? -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits [snip] > Can you use the message ids to search? Done did. No hits through beta-groups. What a mess! The Ranger >[snip] >> Can you use the message ids to search? > >Done did. No hits through beta-groups. What a mess! > >The Ranger Looks like the ones I gave have been changed over to beta. Here's one that hasn't been as of today http://www.google.se/grphp?hl=en -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits >>[snip] >>> Can you use the message ids to search? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Here's one that hasn't been as of today >http://www.google.se/grphp?hl=en Alternatively, try this search. It's old. Jeremy Nixon wrote it back when googlegroups was deja. It works, but I can't say if it will find waht you want. http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/deja.html -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits what is wrong with it? > Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been > tampered with and made useless. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Ranger news.excelonline.com aioe.cjb.net I've been using the later when I'm at the office and it hasn't been too bad. There are tons of other freebees out there that are read only (can't post to) > Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been > tampered with and made useless. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Ranger > Google sucks dead road kill now. A useful, easy-to-use tool has been > tampered with and made useless. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Ranger I totally agree...when I find one, I'll let you know. LOL |
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