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ºFree~Spiritº - 31 Jul 2005 01:07 GMT
Well just want to know if I am really that bad of a guy. Inlaws are accusing me
of not treating DW like an adult and basically doing everything wrong. IOW it's
all my fault.

For those who don't know I got a son with Aspergers (high functioning Autism)
and a DD who is super capable and smart and a DW who is diagnost with Severe
Manic depression and Schizophreania. (Started after DD was born). Well the docs
suggested that home life was too much for her and suggested assisted living with
visits to our home on weekends. So I did that (FIL and MIL don't like that at
all cause she belongs with the family no matter what and she'd function if I
treat her right - well I am open for suggestions).

DS improved a bit but is missing her a lot. DD states "the less she comes here
the better." But that is a different issue. So all week DS dreams what mom will
all do with him on the weekend and is counting the days. Then mom comes - and
does nothing except chase him away with "leave me alone". Today she locked
herself in the room to "take a nap and have some peace and quiet" from 10 am
(after breakfast) to just a little after 6pm.

DS was sitting in front of the door from time to time knocking and calmly
pleading "Please mom open up.... Please I want to talk with you .... Please lets
backe cookies etc etc" Just as a response from time to time "Go away leave me
alone." So after a while of that I just took son by himself to the movies (DD
was playing and staying with neighbor kids. DS just loves movies. I felt real
bad for him.

Now that kind of stuff is the rule and not the exception. On the way home DS
again was all hopeful of what mom might have all prepared for him and she was
still in the room with the door locked. So DS messed up his room while I was in
the bathroom - pulled out the drawers and dumped them on the floor. He sometimes
does that when frustrated.

So I am bringing her back to the assisted living facility early and won't pick
her up next week. Now that has happened before too. I made the rule that if she
comes her she got to participate and not frustrate DS - we are going to have a
bad day tomorrow - he always does after mom behaved like that and I bring her
back to the assisted living facility - Plus he got to put all his stuff back
into the drawers.

Now I already got a phonecall from FIL that I cannot make conditions on her
coming here that I am treating her like a kid etc etc and if I would treat her
right she would never had problems in the first place.

IOW I am a bad guy.

Free Spirit
DD(9) DS(12)
dejablues - 31 Jul 2005 01:30 GMT
If your wife is as bad off as you say,  and  you really want her to visit
your home it's unfair to both her and your son to place any expectations on
her. If she's there and reasonably coherent, fine. If she's locked in a room
and babbling to the walls, fine. SInce it's hard for the Asperger's kid to
understand her behavior and it causes such difficulty, it's probably better
if she doesn't visit.  Don't  people with Asperger's syndrome  require
stable environments and need to know exactly what is going to happen, when,
and how? A bipolar schizophrenic is the exact opposite of this.After all,
your wife can go back to the care facility. You have to deal with the
aftermath at home.

As for her parents, apparently they need a crash course in abnormal
psychology, if  they think schizophrenia is caused by  mistreatment and that
it can be cured by just being nice to the sufferer. They can keep her for
the weekend if they think you're doing such a bad job.
just me - 31 Jul 2005 02:16 GMT
dejablues mentioned in passing :

> If your wife is as bad off as you say,  and  you really want her to
> visit your home it's unfair to both her and your son to place any
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> and that it can be cured by just being nice to the sufferer. They can
> keep her for the weekend if they think you're doing such a bad job.

Agreed. The inlaws also need to start thinking of the next generation -
their grandkids. But, while I think we'd all like them to get educated on
mental illness and so forth, I suspect that they are entrenched in their
opinions. They probably would have tried to obtain decent, current
information when the diagnosis was first made if they had any questions.
Instead, they have not as they apparently believe that they know the whole
story.  So, Free, you are in a tough spot.  With kids who need a mom who is
well and a wife who can't be that person for her kids [let alone for you].
have you discussed with the psychiatrist the difficulties things present for
visits and your son so you can develop something workable? Maybe DS'
therapist has some ideas?  Perhaps the best thing that may come out of these
unpredictable events is that DS becomes more adept at dealing with
frustrations and lack of predictability. I know folks with Aspbergers can be
taught strategies for these types of things so maybe DS' therapist might
want to focus on that.

-Aula

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Puester - 31 Jul 2005 02:23 GMT
> If your wife is as bad off as you say,  and  you really want her to visit
> your home it's unfair to both her and your son to place any expectations on
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> it can be cured by just being nice to the sufferer. They can keep her for
> the weekend if they think you're doing such a bad job.

 You said what I was thinking but in a lot fewer words.
I agree.

gloria p
ºFree~Spiritº - 31 Jul 2005 02:39 GMT
>> If your wife is as bad off as you say,  and  you really want her to visit
>> your home it's unfair to both her and your son to place any expectations on
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>gloria p

Hi Deja - for whatever reason I cannot see your post so I answer to this one.

I do feel that way and agree with you and yes DS needs stability and
predictability and that is why I cut down on DW visits and made those
conditions.

As for her parents they won't keep her for a weekend as they are "too old". Due
to all that laying around for the last 8-9 years DW has lost enough muscle tone
that she for example cannot get up the stairs walking but has to do it on all
four. So forget doing anything much that requires moving - even though she
should to improve her muscles as the doctors say. Now her parents at their age
cannot be bogged down with someone in her kind of shape. So they won't take her
for a week or weekend or such.

For my part I am just getting clobbered and accused and blamed. After a while
you want to get a 2nd oppinion.

Free Spirit
DD(9) DS(12)
Bateau - 31 Jul 2005 03:17 GMT
Sounds like you suck at reproducing.

>Well just want to know if I am really that bad of a guy. Inlaws are accusing me
>of not treating DW like an adult and basically doing everything wrong. IOW it's
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>Free Spirit
>DD(9) DS(12)
 
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