Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
arrived by c-section. They both weighed in at just above 3kg. My recovery
is progressing well, DS2 is nursing like a champ, but needs additional
hospital tests for an enlarged kidney. He is doing wonderful otherwise.
After a good start, DD is having problems with fluctuating bloodsugar
levels. She has a hard time drinking even a bottle of EBM, we have had to
force feed her once and saw improvement this morning, but now it seems she
is slowing down yet again. Perhaps this is her normal behaviour, she has
been more sleepy at this time of day since birth, and seems more alert
through evening and night.
At least we have our 'kraamzuster', a specialized nurse who cares for me
and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
we.

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mommy to four tiny angels (Oct '03 - Oct '04)
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mommy to twins DS2/DD (August '05)
just me - 19 Aug 2005 11:04 GMT
Ilse Witch mentioned in passing :
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and
> DS2. Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> me and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things,
> and so are we.
/throws confetti in the air and runs about like a maniac
CONGRATULATIONS ILSE! This is such wonderful news, despite the little
challenges they present now. I'm so glad that they are here! Now, go get
some rest while you can!
-Aula

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Mo - 19 Aug 2005 11:06 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and
> DS2. Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> me and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things,
> and so are we.
I thought this was why you were silent LOL. Congratulations to you, DH
and big brother! I hope DS2's kidney problem turns out to be OK and that
DD's blood sugar problems go away as well :-).

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PdB - 19 Aug 2005 11:10 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
That is wonderful news, Ilse! Congratulations!!!!! Enjoy your two new
miracles and good luck with the small 'opstartprobleempjes' ;)
Peter
Stara Baba - 19 Aug 2005 13:39 GMT
> > Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and
> > DS2.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Peter
I don't speak Dutch, but I've got it figured out, Peter. :-0)

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PdB - 19 Aug 2005 13:58 GMT
>>That is wonderful news, Ilse! Congratulations!!!!! Enjoy your two new
>>miracles and good luck with the small 'opstartprobleempjes' ;)
>>
>>Peter
>
> I don't speak Dutch, but I've got it figured out, Peter. :-0)
Good deal! I know Minnesotans catch on quickly :p
BTW, you're working at the State Fair? Lucky you! I'd love to go there
again ;)
A s s i l e m - 19 Aug 2005 11:28 GMT
Oh Congrats Ilse!!! And wow good weights for twins! Can't wait for pics and
a birth story!
melissa
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Anne Rogers - 19 Aug 2005 11:36 GMT
many many congratulations Ilse
Anne
Dizzysmamma - 19 Aug 2005 11:42 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Oh, Ilse! Congratulations! I so hope things even out with the bubs. I
can't even begin to tell you how happy we are for you and your, newly
expanded, family.
Angela

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Sidheag McCormack - 19 Aug 2005 11:59 GMT
Congratulations! I hope the health issues resolve easily.
Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003
nannyogg@samael.demon.co.uk - 19 Aug 2005 12:05 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
Oh, what fantastic news! Congratulations to all of you.
All the best,
Sarah
Teri - 19 Aug 2005 12:10 GMT
:-) Congratulations! I look forward to hearing of the wee one's progress
:-))
Teri
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Mamma Mia - 19 Aug 2005 13:11 GMT
congrats ilse great news. that is 6kg of baby you had going on, wow!
how is big brother?
chris
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Stara Baba - 19 Aug 2005 13:36 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
And we're just NOW hearing of it? Oh, Ilse!! Congratulations! Sound
the trumpets!! Fly the flag!! The babies are here!! Salute the
kraamzuster!! God bless all of you! Mmwwaahhhhh!

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Rose - 19 Aug 2005 14:00 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Tappity tappity tappity tappity tap tap tap Tappity tappity tap shuffle
tap tap tap
[[Doing the happy dance]]
Congratulations.
Stormlady - 19 Aug 2005 14:04 GMT
Congratulations!! I can't believe where the time has gone, it seems like
just the other day you posted that you were pregnant. I remember hoping
everything would work out for you, then to find out it was twins, and now,
here they are. WOW. Try to rest as much as you can, hard I know and I hope
everything is fine with DS's kidney and with DD.
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> guardian of DH (age classified)
> mommy to twins DS2/DD (August '05)
Nikki - 19 Aug 2005 14:07 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and
> DS2.
OMGoodness, Congratulations!! Welcome to the babies. I hope things settle
down and smooth out soon. Is that possible with twins I wonder? You are
going to have so much fun :-)
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Sue - 19 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT
"Ilse Witch" <mama_NOT_valid_DIN@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
Absolutely wonderful news!!! I am so happy for you. Welcome to the world
little babies. :o)

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tammieallison@yahoo.ca - 19 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT
Congarts!!!!! That is wonderful! all the best.
Diana Stoetzer - 19 Aug 2005 15:09 GMT
Ilse Witch schrieb:
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Hey, Ilse, congrats!
Viel Spaß mit Deiner nun so grossen Rasselbande :-)!
Gruß,
Diana
toto - 19 Aug 2005 15:18 GMT
Congratulations, Ilse! Welcome to the world little ones.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
for health and good growth to both of them.
>Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
>Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
>we.
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Mermaid - 19 Aug 2005 15:19 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> guardian of DH (age classified)
> mommy to twins DS2/DD (August '05)
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(((((((((((Ilse and family))))))))))))))))
Anni
The Ranger - 19 Aug 2005 15:19 GMT
Congratulations!
The Ranger
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Emily - 19 Aug 2005 15:33 GMT
Congrats Ilse & family and welcome to the two new world
citizens! I hope that blood sugar and kidney issues smooth
over soon (that's great about having a nurse around!) and
you all manage to settle into a comfortable routine without
much more ado.
Emily
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EDD Labor Day 9/5/05 <- still pregnant
Ilse Witch - 24 Aug 2005 18:28 GMT
> Congrats Ilse & family and welcome to the two new world
> citizens! I hope that blood sugar and kidney issues smooth
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Emily
Hehe, I won! ;-) Amazing though that it was on the 13th, I thought of you
when my waters broke early morning, but I see in your sig-line you made it
at least to the 19th...

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Emily - 24 Aug 2005 18:31 GMT
> Hehe, I won! ;-) Amazing though that it was on the 13th, I thought of you
> when my waters broke early morning, but I see in your sig-line you made it
> at least to the 19th...
I should know better than to try to race someone carrying
twins with an earlier due date, no less! I've made it to the
23rd, in fact...
Emily
April & Bump - 19 Aug 2005 15:50 GMT
Congtrats
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Sherry - 19 Aug 2005 16:13 GMT
Congratulations! This is wonderful news, take care and get some rest
when you can. I am looking forward to having my little girl, I am due
in Feb.
Kate - 19 Aug 2005 20:00 GMT
Congra Rats -
Glad everything is more or less OK - Hope these little probs iron out
quickly and easily....
Does happy dance and can't wait to hear about it all and hear the
names...
K :o)
Nan - 19 Aug 2005 15:56 GMT
>Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
>Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
>we.
YaYYYYYYY!!!!
Welcome to the world, little ones!!!
I'm so happy for you :-)
*hug*
Nan
sharalyns - 19 Aug 2005 16:06 GMT
Oh, congratulations! Welcome to the new babies! Names?
I hope your son's kidney turn out to be totally normal and that your
daughter's blood sugars start regulating themselves. :-)
Sharalyn
mom to Alexander James (9/21/01)
Crystal Dreamer - 19 Aug 2005 16:07 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
I saw this post and got the biggest smile on my face. Congratulations!!!
I'm so happy for you. I hope DD improves and that DS2's testing goes well.

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Plissken - 19 Aug 2005 16:32 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Congratulations Ilse and family!!!! I am soooo happy for you!
Nadene
cjorp@yahoo.com - 19 Aug 2005 17:00 GMT
Congratulations and felicitations!

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Puester - 19 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Woooohooooo! Let the celebration begin!
Congratulations to Mom and Dad and welcome to the world
to the twins.
Could you bargain for the kraamzuster for two weeks
since you have two babies? It's worth the thought.
Wishes for a healthy outcome for both and some rest for you.
gloria p
Mo - 21 Aug 2005 09:23 GMT
>> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and
>> DS2. Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Could you bargain for the kraamzuster for two weeks
> since you have two babies? It's worth the thought.
Unfortunately Dutch health insurance doesn't cover that ;-). It's for a
maximum of 10 days, any days you spend in hospital are deducted, because
they reckon you get similar care there.

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kiticat - 19 Aug 2005 17:41 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
:)))))))
woohooooooo!!!! thats utterly fantabulous Ilse. Congratulations to you
and your family.
/congas round the living room
Im so pleased for you :)

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Leslie - 19 Aug 2005 17:44 GMT
Yay! Welcome to the twins!
Leslie
Rebecca Jo - 19 Aug 2005 17:44 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Congratulations! :)
rj
CY - 19 Aug 2005 18:49 GMT
Woohooooooooooooo! I'm so happy for you. Congrats :)
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Cuddlefish - 19 Aug 2005 19:50 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
WOO HOO!!!!
Congratulations! :-D

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J - 19 Aug 2005 19:58 GMT
Congratulations on the birth of your precious babies, I hope their health
issues are resolved soon
R
| Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
| Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
| and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
| we.
Mogget - 19 Aug 2005 20:05 GMT
>Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
Congrats!
What might the enlarged kidney mean?

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Kara H - 19 Aug 2005 23:39 GMT
"Ilse Witch" <mama_NOT_valid_DIN@yahoo.com> wrote in message:
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> been more sleepy at this time of day since birth, and seems more alert
> through evening and night.
Ohhhhhhh (((((Ilse))))). I'm SOOOOO very happy for you!
You've made me cry- tears of joy of course! There's no doubt in my mind that
these babies are the luckiest babies in the world- to have such an amazing
mom like you who loves them so very much!
I think this calls for some 'MO-style' Bounce! BOUNCE!
BOOOOOOOOOOUNCING!!!!!
*Bounce*
*Bounce*
*Bounce*
Congratulations!
-Kara.
Mo - 20 Aug 2005 18:23 GMT
> "Ilse Witch" <mama_NOT_valid_DIN@yahoo.com> wrote in message:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> I think this calls for some 'MO-style' Bounce! BOUNCE!
> BOOOOOOOOOOUNCING!!!!!
Hey! I *saw* that LOL!
> *Bounce*
> *Bounce*
> *Bounce*
>
> Congratulations!
> -Kara.

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bRaTty - Sue - 20 Aug 2005 06:53 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Woohooooooo huge congrats on your wee miracles :*-)
Jen - 20 Aug 2005 14:51 GMT
Congratulations!!!!!!!
This is so awesome!!!
Elle - 20 Aug 2005 15:39 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
How wonderful Ilse! Congrats tio the whole family.
Elle
Shelly - 20 Aug 2005 16:37 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
OMG!!! My internet decides to go down and I missed this!!!!! Ilse I'm soo
happy for you..... and the names are???
Froggy
Mum of Two - 20 Aug 2005 23:01 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
> arrived by c-section. They both weighed in at just above 3kg. My recovery
> is progressing well, DS2 is nursing like a champ, but needs additional
> hospital tests for an enlarged kidney. He is doing wonderful otherwise.
Congratulations! I hope the tests come back clear.
> After a good start, DD is having problems with fluctuating bloodsugar
> levels. She has a hard time drinking even a bottle of EBM, we have had to
> force feed her once and saw improvement this morning, but now it seems she
> is slowing down yet again. Perhaps this is her normal behaviour, she has
> been more sleepy at this time of day since birth, and seems more alert
> through evening and night.
Some babies are just sleepier than others. Have you tried taking off
clothing or her nap before a feed, or a damp washcloth? Can you give her EBM
with a syringe or spoon? It might be easier if she's reluctant as she then
won't have to suck, and she won't get nipple confusion.
> At least we have our 'kraamzuster', a specialized nurse who cares for me
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
That's a relief! Do you get ongoing help with twins? Here in NZ I know there
are some tax breaks etc for multiples, one mum of twins I know has a nanny
with her some of the time while her husband is at work.

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arachne - 21 Aug 2005 00:08 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
congratulations!

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ºFree~Spiritº - 21 Aug 2005 00:49 GMT
>Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
>Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
>we.
Congratulations
Free Spirit
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A&G&K&H - 21 Aug 2005 05:31 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
It is with much love that we welcome you to the world, gorgeous girl and
beautiful boy. Your Mummy, Daddy and Big Brother have been waiting for you
to arrive for the longest time.
..and Ilse... congratulations sweetie...its been such a hard road to get
here, but I hope everything just gets easier and better from now on.
X Amanda
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1 tiny angel Nov 2003
DS 20th August 2004
Lynn - 22 Aug 2005 22:25 GMT
Congrats to the whole family. Glad everyone arrived safely and hope the
couple problems are soon resolved. Take care
Lynn
Chookie - 21 Aug 2005 13:50 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Congratulations! What good weights too! Best wishes that their little
problems are quickly resolved.

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Caroline - 21 Aug 2005 14:43 GMT
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Praying for quick recovery for everyone! wtg!!
Caroline
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Andrea S - 21 Aug 2005 14:58 GMT
Aw that is brilliant news!!!!!
Congrats!
Andrea.
DamnOkie - 22 Aug 2005 05:30 GMT
Congratulations times two!
Samantha in Ooooklahoma
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
hooferoo@hotmail.co.uk - 22 Aug 2005 10:15 GMT
Fantastic news. Congratulations to you all!
Jeni
Joybelle - 22 Aug 2005 23:39 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
> arrived by c-section. They both weighed in at just above 3kg. My recovery
> is progressing well, DS2 is nursing like a champ, but needs additional
> hospital tests for an enlarged kidney. He is doing wonderful otherwise.
Congratulations, Ilse!!! Wonderful news that the babies have arrived! I
hope the testing for the enlarged kidney turns out well.
> After a good start, DD is having problems with fluctuating bloodsugar
> levels. She has a hard time drinking even a bottle of EBM, we have had to
> force feed her once and saw improvement this morning, but now it seems she
> is slowing down yet again. Perhaps this is her normal behaviour, she has
> been more sleepy at this time of day since birth, and seems more alert
> through evening and night.
I hope your DD's situation is improving and her bloodsugars have stabilized.
This has to be a bit frustrating!
> At least we have our 'kraamzuster', a specialized nurse who cares for me
> and the babies at home the first week. She is on top of things, and so are
> we.
Sounds good and much congrats!

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Unadulterated Me - 23 Aug 2005 12:10 GMT
Hartelijk Gefeliciteerd on the tweeling!
Well done Ilse, you rock :-)
Andrea
Ilse Witch - 24 Aug 2005 18:20 GMT
It's been busy busy busy, but at the same time, it's been a marvel and
enormous joy to have *two* such little creatures to care for. I haven't
even had time to read all the replies to the birth announcement, but it's
been truly amazing to see so many people have been following my story. I
feel blessed to have found so many friends here and I wish I had time to
reply to each of you in person.
DD has recovered from her dip and is gaining strength day by day. She
was back on her birthweight this monday. Today she nursed with me like she
has never been bottle fed! She is finally starting to wake up for her
feedings and drinking enough, so we are going to switch her to nursing one
by one feeding.
DS2 has been tested for reflux in his urinary tract, and nothing was
found. The cause of his enlarged kidney is still unclear. We've not heard
from the u/s scan whether it is getting smaller or not. He is on a low
dose antibiotics to prevent infections, but has no problems with it so
far. Next week both kids are due for a check-up with the pediatrician,
and in another week they will test him for kidney damage. In spite of
everything, he is doing very well.
I have caught up with the milk production and both kids are off formula
since yesterday. It is a matter of pride that no matter what, the twins
will grow on mommy-milk for at least 6 months. I am starting to build a
small supply, so I don't have to pump in the middle of the night. Only
one downpoint: my backproblems have returned with a vengeance and today I
was seriously frustrated that I couldn't even lift my own babies from
their crib. Luckily DH is home for the week, and things are improving
quickly,
DS1 is dealing with things wonderfully. He is totally in love with his
new siblings, after denying everything to do with the pregnancy, I am
happy to see him so accepting. We make time for him whenever possible, and
amazingly, we find ourselves with some spare time every now and then (like
now). We are tired, but not exhausted (yet) and thoroughly enjoying every
spare moment we have. Children are such miracles!

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Emily - 24 Aug 2005 18:28 GMT
Thanks for taking some of your precious spare time to
send us an update Ilse! It sounds like things are going
really well, and I hope the good news continues (esp.
regarding DS2's kidney).
I'm not surprised your back pain has returned, with
nursing and all the other baby carrying you must be doing.
I hope that you'll have time to sort out your erganomics
and that that will help it get better!
Emily
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DS 5/02
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toto - 24 Aug 2005 18:42 GMT
>DS1 is dealing with things wonderfully. He is totally in love with his
>new siblings, after denying everything to do with the pregnancy, I am
>happy to see him so accepting. We make time for him whenever possible, and
>amazingly, we find ourselves with some spare time every now and then (like
>now). We are tired, but not exhausted (yet) and thoroughly enjoying every
>spare moment we have. Children are such miracles!
I am so glad things are going so well for you Ilse!
You are right, children are miracles.
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Dorothy
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that can be heard unless someone listens ..
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Mo - 24 Aug 2005 18:42 GMT
> It's been busy busy busy, but at the same time, it's been a marvel and
> enormous joy to have *two* such little creatures to care for. I
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> up for her feedings and drinking enough, so we are going to switch
> her to nursing one by one feeding.
Sounds great :-)!
> DS2 has been tested for reflux in his urinary tract, and nothing was
> found. The cause of his enlarged kidney is still unclear. We've not
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> pediatrician, and in another week they will test him for kidney
> damage. In spite of everything, he is doing very well.
I hope you'll get good news about the kidney soon, and I'm very glad he
is doing so well.
> I have caught up with the milk production and both kids are off
> formula since yesterday. It is a matter of pride that no matter what,
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> couldn't even lift my own babies from their crib. Luckily DH is home
> for the week, and things are improving quickly,
Ouch, I hope it will get better for you soon!
> DS1 is dealing with things wonderfully. He is totally in love with his
> new siblings, after denying everything to do with the pregnancy, I am
> happy to see him so accepting.
WTG DS1 :=D!
> We make time for him whenever
> possible, and amazingly, we find ourselves with some spare time every
> now and then (like now). We are tired, but not exhausted (yet) and
> thoroughly enjoying every spare moment we have. Children are such
> miracles!
You bet.

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PdB - 24 Aug 2005 19:23 GMT
> It's been busy busy busy, but at the same time, it's been a marvel and
> enormous joy to have *two* such little creatures to care for.
Glad to hear everything (minus the odd inconvenience) is going well,
Ilse! You'll catch up on all the replies... I'm sure your posts are
among the best read in this ng :-)
Joybelle - 25 Aug 2005 20:02 GMT
> I have caught up with the milk production and both kids are off formula
> since yesterday. It is a matter of pride that no matter what, the twins
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> their crib. Luckily DH is home for the week, and things are improving
> quickly,
It sounds like things are going so well, Ilse! So glad to hear all the good
news. :)

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Leslie - 26 Aug 2005 04:56 GMT
Glad to hear things are going well for you all, Ilse. I'm so happy for
you!
Leslie
A&G&K&H - 26 Aug 2005 05:40 GMT
> It's been busy busy busy, but at the same time, it's been a marvel and
> enormous joy to have *two* such little creatures to care for. I haven't
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> now). We are tired, but not exhausted (yet) and thoroughly enjoying every
> spare moment we have. Children are such miracles!
Thanks so much for posting Ilse .... I figured you were busy with two
newborns but we were starting to worry!
I'm so pleased to read how well you are all doing.
hugs
Amanda
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DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003
DS 20th August 2004
carl jones - 30 Aug 2005 02:11 GMT
> Saturday August 13th saw the birth of two new world citizens: DD and DS2.
> Since DD was not lying in full breech and the membranes had ruptured, they
> arrived by c-section. They both weighed in at just above 3kg. My recovery
> is progressing well, DS2 is nursing like a champ, but needs additional
> hospital tests for an enlarged kidney. He is doing wonderful otherwise.
Congtratulations on the birth of your twins! I was sad to hear they had to
be born by C-section but you still have a wonderul outcome!
((((((Hugs))))))
Carl