The Baby and the Lion
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Tommy - 18 Jan 2006 08:59 GMT This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset.
ONE DAY, a man and a woman were sitting in their living room when an African lion, escaped from the zoo, wandered through their screen door and into their baby's room. The man whispered, "We've got to save our baby!" and leaped for his rifle. But the woman leapt up to stop him. "Wait!" she cried. "Why are you reacting so quickly?" "What do you mean?" the man asked.
The woman pointed her finger at him. "How do you know the lion means any harm to our baby?" she demanded. "I guess I don't for sure," the man replied, rubbing his chin. "Just because you see lions being violent on TV doesn't mean they're all violent," she pleaded. The man was getting impatient, and took his rifle down from the mantle. "But we learned in school that lions kill people," he said. The woman shook her head. "That's nonsense from people who are afraid of lions. In fact, lions are beautiful creatures, all part of nature's world," she said.
The man slowly put his rifle back on the mantle. "I guess you're right," he said. "I mean, there aren't many lions in our neighborhood. I don't work with any lions, and I don't have any friends who are lions. Maybe I'm being irrational and prejudiced. Rushing to judgment based on stereotypes isn't fair."
The woman began to smile. "Yes. You're getting it. For years, we've been mistreating lions, killing them for sport, putting them in cages to gawk at, and keeping them away from where we live. It was all based on hatred of lions. We're hurting the lions' feelings when we do those things. We must reach out to the lions, give them food and shelter, and stroke their hides and manes to let them know we love them. Then we won't have to fear them. We'll all live together in peace and harmony."
The man and woman continued to talk, excited about the wave of enlightenment that was washing over them. They sat back down in their chairs, and began discussing ways of creating equal rights for lions, for getting government programs to support them, and of making more positive portrayals of them in the media.
Suddenly, the man jumped up from his seat. "But you know what? While we've been sitting her talking, we've missed an opportunity to reach out to the lion in our very own home!" "You're right!" the woman said. "We can start right now. Let's go talk to him and let him know that we're not prejudiced."
The man and woman then joined hands and began walking toward their baby's room. They were horrified to discover that the lion had eaten their baby, leaving nothing but blood all over the sheets of the baby crib. Meanwhile, the lion had walked out the back door.
"This is terrible!" the woman said. "The only reason this poor lion has resorted to eating our baby is because of the hatred, intolerance and mistreatment he and his ancestors have suffered at our hands!" The man threw up his hands and said, "Yes, you might even say we deserve what's happened to us. We created this whole problem. For what we've done, we should be eaten by the lion, too!"
With that, the man and woman set off to look for the lion, with the hopes that he would accept their forgiveness.
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DTA - 18 Jan 2006 21:11 GMT > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. No, it just demonstrates the conservative need to demonize and lie about opponents, and their reliance on fairy tales to explain things.
Tsunami Mommy - 18 Jan 2006 21:48 GMT >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >No, it just demonstrates the conservative need to demonize and lie about >opponents, and their reliance on fairy tales to explain things. Oh, you must be confusing conservatives with the limousine liberal Jews who run Hollywood.
R. Steve Walz - 18 Jan 2006 23:07 GMT > >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh, you must be confusing conservatives with the limousine liberal > Jews who run Hollywood. -------------------------- Now some Nazi bigot tries to bring his hate of Jews into it, which is irrelevant. You sh.t are f.cking nuts. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 18 Jan 2006 23:47 GMT >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >is irrelevant. You sh.t are f.cking nuts. >Steve Struck the kike's nerve ending.
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:43 GMT > >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Struck the kike's nerve ending. ------------------------ I'm not jewish. But you ARE a sh.t-licking slackjawed bigot. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 20 Jan 2006 11:58 GMT >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >But you ARE a sh.t-licking slackjawed bigot. >Steve You liberal kikes remind me of the Jew Bolshevik totalitarians who founded communism. You want the masses to be miserable and share-the-wealth while you live lives of luxury.
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 23:01 GMT > >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > You liberal kikes --------------------- I'm not jewish, I was raised methodist and none of my blood family are jewish. I am not actually even a liberal, but a progressive democratic communist.
> remind me of the Jew Bolshevik totalitarians who > founded communism. ---------------------- How hilarious that you imagine some evil cabal of "jews" wished to be communist and give up all power to people's democractic control!!
Do you even know what Bolshevik means? Go ahead, answer this one!
And do you know what a totalitarian is? Hmm? What?
That would be the control of everybody and every feature of life by a minority, which is impossible. The minority would be fully occupied without productivity watching security cameras all day and in any fight they'd lose.
> You want the masses to be miserable -------------------------- Why would someone who believes in democratic communism want that? It wouldn't make sense!: Like the masses enslaving the masses or something as ridiculous!!
> and share-the-wealth ------------------------ The masses miserable sharing the wealth?? You sound confused, and so you ARE!
> while you live lives of luxury. ------------------------ No, those who wish to oppress the majority will and luxuriate at the expense of the rest of us, always were, are, and continue to be the classist, bigoted, racist rightwing fascist rich!! Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 20 Jan 2006 23:12 GMT >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >the classist, bigoted, racist rightwing fascist rich!! >Steve Difference between the kikes who founded communism and you liberal kikes today is that they weren't as fearful while today's kikes are terrified of any physical confrontation. You try to prevail with manipulation, deviousness, and slime.
Can almost smell your grease from here.
R. Steve Walz - 21 Jan 2006 08:27 GMT > >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Difference between the kikes who founded communism and you liberal > kikes today ---------------------------- I'm not Jewish, but you ARE a bigoted racist sh.t.
AND unworth responding to, you know nothing about communism. You can't answer any questions about Bolshevism.
WHAT IS BOLSHEVISM, you COWARD!!!???
> is that they weren't as fearful while today's kikes are > terrified of any physical confrontation. ----------------------- You mean like the Mosad? I think not.
> Can almost smell your grease from here. ------------------------- That's your finger in your mouth after you switched it with the one in your a.s. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 21 Jan 2006 13:03 GMT >> >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >with the one in your a.s. >Steve Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks.
R. Steve Walz - 23 Jan 2006 07:14 GMT > Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes > who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks. --------------------- You have no idea what any of those big words mean, you stupid child. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 23 Jan 2006 14:02 GMT >> Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes >> who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks. >--------------------- >You have no idea what any of those big words mean, you stupid child. >Steve You mentioned Mosad, but they ain't the American kike, you dummy.
American kike would let a nigga rape his woman and then make excuses for him.
What filthy, yellow, cheezy bastids, you are.
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 04:28 GMT > >> Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes > >> who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You mentioned Mosad, but they ain't the American kike, you dummy. ------------------ Now you pretend you were only discussing Americans, you LIAR! You're just a sh.t-licking lying little racist! Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 24 Jan 2006 12:27 GMT >> >> Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes >> >> who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >You're just a sh.t-licking lying little racist! >Steve Push the kike's button, did I?
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 22:38 GMT > >> >> Those right-wing fascists you leftists talk about are neo-con kikes > >> >> who are actually not much better than you Bolsheviks. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Push the kike's button, did I? ---------------------------- Again, I'm not jewish, you low-grade slack-jawed moron. Steve
Tommy - 19 Jan 2006 23:27 GMT >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > is irrelevant. You sh.t are f.cking nuts. > Steve Because one points out the TRUTH - doesn't make one a Nazi Steve.
Do Jews Run Hollywood? You bet they do--and what of it?
by Ben Stein
A few days after Marlon Brando scandalized the airwaves by referring to the Jews who worked in Hollywood as "kikes," I got a call from an editor at 60 Minutes. The woman wanted to know how I felt about Brando's use of words and his allegation that Hollywood is "run by Jews."
She suggested the desired answer by noting that her researchers had conclusively proven that Jews do not run Hollywood.
Crafty 60 Minutes had studied the top slots in town. Their research showed that "only" about 60 percent of the most important positions in Hollywood were run by Jews. What did I think?
I managed to disqualify myself by saying that while Hollywood was not really "run" by anyone (it's far too chaotic for that), if Jews were about 2.5 percent of the population and were about 60 percent of Hollywood, they might well be said to be extremely predominant in that sector.
That was far too logical and un-PC an answer, and I never heard from her again.
But Jews are a big part of my thoughts (as they are of every Jew's thoughts). Plus, I live and struggle in Hollywood, so the combination intrigues me. What exactly is the role of the Jew in Hollywood? More to the point, what does it signify, if anything, if Jews have a big role? And, most interesting of all, why do we care?
First, it is extremely clear to anyone in Hollywood that Jews are, so to speak, "in charge" in Hollywood in a way that is not duplicated in any other large business, except maybe garments or scrap metal or folding boxes.
At mighty Paramount, the controlling stockholder is Sumner Redstone. Head of the studio is Jon Dolgen. Head of production is Sherry Lansing--all members of the tribe.
At titanic Disney, the CEO is Michael Eisner, the world's most assimilated Jew, who might as well be a Presbyterian. Deputy head is Michael Ovitz, karate champ but also a Jew. Head of the studio is Joe Roth.
At newly energized ICM, the top dogs are Jeff Berg and Jim Wiatt. At still overwhelming CAA, Jack Rapke and other members of my faith predominate. At William Morris, Jon Burnham and other Jews are, by and large, in the power positions.
This has always been true in Hollywood. The ex-furriers who created Hollywood were Eastern European Jewish immigrants, and all of the great edifice of fantasy-making in Hollywood is their handiwork. Names like Zukor and Lasky and Goldwyn and Cohn are the foundation of mass culture in America and the world.
There is a much quoted note that it took all these Eastern European Yiddish-speaking Jews to create the lasting, worldwide image of America and what America is--the mass culture mirror that America likes to hold up to its face.
More below. http://www.eonline.com/Features/Specials/Jews/index2.html
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:55 GMT > >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Because one points out the TRUTH - doesn't make one a Nazi Steve. ----------------------- No, it wouldn't, IF YOU DID! You DON'T point out the Truth. You're a sh.t-licking little racist LIAR!
> Do Jews Run Hollywood? > You bet they do--and what of it? > > by Ben Stein -------------------------- He was being amusing below, you moron, he's a Jewish comedian, dummy! The below never took place, it's part of his schtick, his act!! Stupid!
Whether it is true or not is irrelevant PRECISELY because the Jews may be the largest group to so compliment the artistic life of America by their presence in it! Your crap is sort of like complaining that operas are in Italian or the old masters of the canvas are Europeans!
As for Jews, a large minority of them are well-educated and talented, but they comprise only a minority of those in controlling positions, which they EARNED! Steve
> A few days after Marlon Brando scandalized the airwaves by referring to the > Jews who worked in Hollywood as "kikes," I got a call from an editor at 60 [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > More below. > http://www.eonline.com/Features/Specials/Jews/index2.html R. Steve Walz - 18 Jan 2006 23:05 GMT > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. ------------------------- No, this fable indicates how confused you reactionary bigots are, believing that lions are anything like black people, or that people are just inherently dangerous no matter how badly you've treated them. You pretend that people you have treated badly are dangerous for some other magical reason, instead of because of your abuse of them. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 18 Jan 2006 23:47 GMT >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >------------------------- >No, this fable indicates how confused you reactionary bigots are, >believing that lions are anything like black people, Yeah, the PETA people are likely to protest.
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:44 GMT > >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >------------------------- > >No, this fable indicates how confused you reactionary bigots are, > >believing that lions are anything like black people, > > Yeah, the PETA people are likely to protest. ------------------------------- Gather them up and kill them along with all you racists. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 20 Jan 2006 11:58 GMT >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Gather them up and kill them along with all you racists. >Steve That's another thing about the kike Hollywood liberals. They love to race bait. Yeah, keep the whites and niggers at each other's throats.
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 23:02 GMT > >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > That's another thing about the kike Hollywood liberals. They love to > race bait. Yeah, keep the whites and niggers at each other's throats. ---------------------------- So now you're saying that you racist race-baiters are all "kikes". You're WAAAAY f.cking confused, son. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 20 Jan 2006 23:12 GMT >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >You're WAAAAY f.cking confused, son. >Steve Can recall as a kid you cheezy kikes who owned cheap dept. stores and appliance stores on the poor side of town and how you cheated the people. When the jigs moved in, you stayed and did the same thing to them.
R. Steve Walz - 21 Jan 2006 08:31 GMT > >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Can recall as a kid you cheezy kikes -------------------------- Being circumcised, you'd be the one who is "cheezed".
I'm not jewish, and you remember nuthin', you're about 14 years old.
> who owned cheap dept. stores and > appliance stores on the poor side of town and how you cheated the > people. --------------------------- Reading nazi propaganda again, eh, you slack-jawed white trash?? You were poor because you were stupid and ignorant, sh.t-brain. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 21 Jan 2006 13:03 GMT >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >I'm not jewish, and you remember nuthin', you're about 14 years old. OK, then you must be a nigger.
>> who owned cheap dept. stores and >> appliance stores on the poor side of town and how you cheated the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You were poor because you were stupid and ignorant, sh.t-brain. >Steve And when the jigs moved-in, you cheated them too.
And it's a funny thing how you Jews talk about whites being intolerant. Just watch whenever a Jew boy invites a goy to a Beth Tfiloh prom. NO WAY! Won't be allowed.
R. Steve Walz - 23 Jan 2006 07:12 GMT > >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > OK, then you must be a nigger. --------------------------------- No, I'm neither jewish nor black. But you ARE a shitty little racist. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 23 Jan 2006 14:02 GMT >> >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >But you ARE a shitty little racist. >Steve Not only are goyim barred from the Jew prom, they are barred from Jew Community Centers, even as visitors.
Along with the Nips, Jews are the most intolerant group on the planet, and yet have the chutzpah to condemn whites for intolerance.
Is it any wonder why you're so universally despised?
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 04:29 GMT > >> >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > >> >> >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Not only are goyim barred from the Jew prom, they are barred from Jew > Community Centers, even as visitors. --------------------- More lies.
> Along with the Nips, Jews are the most intolerant group on the planet, > and yet have the chutzpah to condemn whites for intolerance. ------------------------- Nothing but your shitty little racist lies. Steve
Tsunami Mommy - 24 Jan 2006 12:28 GMT >> >> >> >> >> >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >--------------------- >More lies. Nope. Used to drive this sheenie to work (he alleged that a head injury prevented driving but actually he was too cheap to buy a car, but that's a story I'll tell you tomorrow) and the Jew neighborhood opened a community center which featured a state-of-the-art gym. A couple of the commuters were dying just to visit the gym but he said that it was open only to members of the Jew faith. They never did see it.
>> Along with the Nips, Jews are the most intolerant group on the planet, >> and yet have the chutzpah to condemn whites for intolerance. >------------------------- >Nothing but your shitty little racist lies. >Steve Makes one wonder whether he would've turned down a jigaboo request to visit it. That would have forced him into a corner, the way you sheens suck-up to the spooks.
Steve Baker - 19 Jan 2006 00:11 GMT > > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > ------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > your abuse of them. > Steve You sir, are a racist! No where in the OP's message was there any mention of race... real or implied. It only mentioned Liberal mindset and Lions.
Al
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:45 GMT > > > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > > ------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Al ------------------------ It's easy to see where a slack-jawed mindless bigot is going to go. He goes the same place every time. Steve
I. M. White - 19 Jan 2006 16:51 GMT >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > ------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > your abuse of them. > Steve NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals.
 Signature What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
Bob LeChevalier - 19 Jan 2006 18:58 GMT >NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. Nazi racists are not "people." They are sub-human slime that are beneath the label "animals".
lojbab
I. M. White - 20 Jan 2006 17:14 GMT >>NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. > > Nazi racists are not "people." They are sub-human slime that are > beneath the label "animals". > > lojbab non sequitur.
 Signature What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 23:12 GMT > >>NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > non sequitur. ----------------- You only think so because you're too stupid to understand it. Steve
Bob LeChevalier - 21 Jan 2006 07:22 GMT >>>NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. >> >> Nazi racists are not "people." They are sub-human slime that are >> beneath the label "animals". > >non sequitur. Quite sequitur. If they are animals, and you are beneath the animals, then you are criticizing your betters. For shame!
lojbab
I. M. White - 25 Jan 2006 14:12 GMT >>>>NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > lojbab non sequitur.
 Signature What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:46 GMT > >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a liberal mindset. > > ------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > NIGGERS are not "people." They are wild sub-human animals. ---------------------------- No, YOU'RE the sub-human sh.t whom we should cull from the species. Steve
Bob LeChevalier - 18 Jan 2006 23:23 GMT This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset.
ONE DAY, a man and a woman were sitting in their living room when an Nazi pestilence, escaped from a test tube, wandered through their screen door and into their baby's room. The man whispered, "We've got to save our baby!" and leaped for his antibiotic. Alas, the Nazi pestilence was too virulent, and destroyed the man, the woman, the baby, and all of civilization.
The End.
That is what comes of tolerating Nazi pestilence existing in any form.
lojbab
I. M. White - 19 Jan 2006 16:49 GMT > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > lojbab Why some people will never accept the 'racist' agenda or deny 'homosexuality as a risk
It basically boils down to one simple thing. The way that people think. There are basically two types of people in the way of thinking. There are the 'logical' people, and there are the 'feeling' people.
The 'Logical' People
The Logical People are generally people that think things out in a logical way. Logicals are generally quite adept at mathematic functions, physics, performing logical functions, and they are excellent at using logic and statistics in making their arguments. Logicals make up approximately one third of the overall population.
Logicals are very often regarded as being smart and usually have a higher than average IQ. The good thing about Logicals is that you can quite often win an argument with them by using logic, statistics, math, and hard proven facts. Logicals are usually Introverts. If you want to sell something to a Logical, just explain to him why he needs it and how useful it may be to him. Logicals are often of the Republican party.
The 'Feeling' People
The Feeling People, hereon out referred to as the 'Absurds', are people that think things out with feeling. The Absurds rarely use logic in their thinking. Their philosophy is that everything must 'feel' right. Absurds make up approximately two thirds of the overall population.
Absurds usually regarded as having 'average' intelligence (and some may even bring the IQ average down a bit). The thing about Absurds is that you can usually win an argument with them by using 'feeling'. Absurds are usually Extraverts. You want to sell an Absurd something? Just use feeling, you'll get it across eventually. Absurds are usually good Pop musicians, and Dancers and usually try for that as a profession (despite the Logic that such a career will fail 99.99% of the time). Absurds are quite often Democrats.
To use feeling is rather simple, you just put on some soothing or 'feel good ' music. The rhythm depends on the feeling you wish to generate. Put on a good video, have a 'feel good' party or conference, and you will get your message across. Huge "selling" conferences are often organized this way and are almost always a huge success. The item you are selling does not need to be anything you need, and it doesn't even have to be useful for anything. All you have to do is make the Absurd feel good about buying it.
The cigarette and alcohol industries caught on to this quite early which is the reason why almost every single advertisement by these industries illustrates an Absurd drinking and having a good time and feeling good with other Absurds. The people who make these advertisements pocket the money, laugh at the Absurd for falling for such a stupid trick, and go about finding more ways to rid the fools of their money. The Absurds may suspect this is the case, but will not believe or acknowledge it, so long as it feels good.
Absurds often do some of the stupidest things on God's Green Earth in the name of feeling good. For example, there was a case of when an Absurd pilot, flying a commercial airliner jet, told his companions that he could land the plane with the blinds in place (used to block the sun while flying). The Absurd put the blind in place and attempted to land it based on feeling and his instruments. He didn't make it. Needless to say, the reason he did it and the reason he thought he could get away with it is because he FELT 'comfortable' and 'good' about his ability to do it. Never mind the fact that it was illogical to put one's job and life, and all the lives of the passengers, and a multi-million dollar jet at risk. The same people quite often drive cars while talking on the cell phones, often with disastrous results.
With Absurds, it feels good just to go along with the crowd. No logic is needed. It is VERY MUCH the case that if a group of Absurds were to commit suicide by jumping off a cliff, that millions of other Absurds will gladly follow them, so long as they feel good about it.
If you make an Absurd feel bad by using logic to make an argument, the Absurd will more often than not insult you and try to make you feel as you have made him/her feel. Using logic with an Absurd will not work as the Absurd has been taught will feeling that certain subjects are taboo and must be avoided at all cost.
The Argument
Back in the 1950's and 1960's, the majority of the people did NOT want integration of blacks with whites. It was well known even then how dangerous blacks can be. It was well known that blacks are more often than not much less intelligent and more violent. It was also known that mix breeding with blacks would be quite disastrous for the same reasons.
The Government however, in an effort to bring the whites and blacks together, caught on quick about how to convince them of doing so. They knew that they would not be able to convince the Logicals with logic, as any hard facts and statistics would easily show that blacks on average are much less intelligent, more violent, more likely to commit a crime and end up in prison, and make less money (or not work at all). Their only way was with the Absurds.
The Government began with their propaganda about how wrong it was to keep blacks down and showed videos and gave stories of the few times that whites would resist blacks. (They NEVER showed that the majority of racial crime has always been committed by blacks against whites). They did everything they could to keep the hard facts and statistics hidden, and pushed their campaign of 'feeling' against the Absurds.
Of course, eventually, the Absurds fell for it (as they would with anything that would make them feel good). What we have now is a bunch of Absurds that will not listen to logic and reason. In fact, an Absurd could easily be raped and robbed by blacks and it would never once click that perhaps blacks on average are much more dangerous than whites.
Recently (since about the 1970s and 1980s) homosexuals have pursued the same agenda.
"At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full 'appreciation' or 'understanding' of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won" (The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987.)
 Signature What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
Bob LeChevalier - 19 Jan 2006 19:13 GMT >The Logical People are generally people that think things out in a logical >way. Logicals are generally quite adept at mathematic functions, physics, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >win an argument with them by using logic, statistics, math, and hard proven >facts. Those who actually have skill in logic know that logic is based on assumptions or postulates or axioms. Different ones lead to different and often contradictory results.
Those who have skill in statistics know about the perils of misuse of statistics, and how easy it is to lie with statistics. The use of statistics to prove something is generally evidence of a LACK of ability to "logically" prove that point.
"Facts" are not proven, thereby demonstrating that you aren't one of the logical ones.
>Logicals are usually Introverts. If you want to sell something to >a Logical, just explain to him why he needs it and how useful it may be to >him. That sounds like a "pragmatist" not a "logical". A "logical" would simply slam the door on the salesperson, since that salesperson made the faulty assumption that they were interested in buying anything.
>The Feeling People, hereon out referred to as the 'Absurds', are people >that think things out with feeling. The proper label for those is "human beings". Computers may be able to think things out without feeling, but human beings are incapable of doing so, since emotion is instinctive in human beings.
>You want to sell an Absurd something? Just use feeling, you'll >get it across eventually. Absurds are usually good Pop musicians, and >Dancers and usually try for that as a profession (despite the Logic that >such a career will fail 99.99% of the time). Absurds are quite often >Democrats. ...
>The cigarette and alcohol industries caught on to this quite early which is >the reason why almost every single advertisement by these industries >illustrates an Absurd drinking and having a good time and feeling good with >other Absurds. And yet I suspect that smokers and alcoholics are more likely to be Republicans than Democrats.
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lojbab
I. M. White - 20 Jan 2006 17:05 GMT >>The Logical People are generally people that think things out in a >>logical [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > lojbab Allow me to dumb it down further for your liberal mindset to comprehend.
Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
Liberal Answer:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.
Conservative Answer:
BANG!
 Signature What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think about what NIGGERS are missing.
Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond.
I. M. White
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 23:11 GMT > >>The Logical People are generally people that think things out in a > >>logical [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Allow me to dumb it down further for your liberal mindset to comprehend. ---------------------- You're far too stupid to attempt any "dumbing down" any further.
> Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two > small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes > around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. > In > your hand is a Glock .40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds > before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
> Liberal Answer: --------------------- That's an illegitimate strawman. You don't get to dictate your own opponent's nature, how matter how delusional you are.
Everybody would shoot, so you're strawman is irrelevant and you are merely deluded as to your opponent's nature.
But whether we'd shootis irrelevant, because that circumstances bears NO RESEMBLANCE to ANY current sociological situation.
Your crap is called a strawman's argument because it's the argument YOU, a COWARD, would PREFER to face, instead of the REAL issues!!
You see, any coward like you can knock down your own strawman scare-crow, and its phony threat, so it's meaningless and unrelated to reality!! Steve
Bob LeChevalier - 21 Jan 2006 07:26 GMT >Allow me to dumb it down further for your liberal mindset to comprehend. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Liberal Answer: Why would I have a Glock .40 in my hand?
lojbab
Tommy - 20 Jan 2006 22:42 GMT >>Allow me to dumb it down further for your liberal mindset to comprehend. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Why would I have a Glock .40 in my hand? Maybe you wanted to visit your daughter who lives in "Da Hood" You wouldn't go into an all black neighborhood unarmed would ya Bob?
Bob LeChevalier - 21 Jan 2006 19:49 GMT >>>Allow me to dumb it down further for your liberal mindset to comprehend. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Maybe you wanted to visit your daughter who lives in "Da Hood" That would violate your scenario, which has my "small children" with me.
>You wouldn't go into an all black neighborhood unarmed would ya Bob? Yes. (not least because carrying a gun in my hand would likely get me arrested if not shot)
Of course your scenario did not specify anything about the neighborhood, other than the street being deserted, which is the norm here in my suburb where people mostly stay indoors except when doing yardwork on weekends.
lojbab
Roger - 21 Jan 2006 21:15 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Tommy wrote in message <3647434.sIgDYQdTWL@FreeBSD>: Oh, good -- you're back.
Have you found that photograph of Gordon wearing his sunglasses at shortly after midnight that night?
Or maybe you can tell us why you tried to claim that the Shuttle is landed by remote control?
Or...?
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:39 GMT > > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Why some people will never accept the 'racist' agenda -------------------------- Gee. We accept yours just fine, shithead.
> or deny 'homosexuality as a risk -------------------------- HIV is a risk. If you take 100 gay young virgin men and have them f.ck each other in the a.s every day for 100 years, NONE of them will get it. HIV is the risk, not homosexuality.
> It basically boils down to one simple thing. The way that people think. ---------------------------- Sure, some are right, and some are wrong. You're wrong.
> There are basically two types of people in the way of thinking. There are > the 'logical' people, and there are the 'feeling' people. ------------------------------ My thoughts exactly, so you should START THINKING AND STOP FEELING your stupid backward sh.t.
> The 'Logical' People []
> Logicals are very often regarded as being smart and usually have a higher > than average IQ. ---------------------- Like me, for example, 170.
> Logicals are usually Introverts. ----------------------- You imagine you're introverted because you can't express your ignorant bigotry well without feeling set upon by people who are more facile! Actually you just can't think very well.
Logicals are often of the Republican party. ------------------------ That's purest nonsense. All rightist bigots wish to think their views are "logical", when actually they are the VERY minority whose views are used as prime examples of ILLOGIC in Logic Classes!!
> The 'Feeling' People > > The Feeling People, hereon out referred to as the 'Absurds', are people > that > think things out with feeling. ---------------- Which is how you came to be a rightist bigot.
> The Absurds rarely use logic in their > thinking. Their philosophy is that everything must 'feel' right. Absurds > make up approximately two thirds of the overall population. -------------------- No. You bigots only make up about 25%, but your fringe membership grows slightly when confused to about 37%.
I know that you imagine you're speaking of "liberals", but you're not. Whether you realize it or not, your ignorant prejudices arise from blindly following the "feelings" you were raised with, due to your severe abuse and humiliation at the hands of the people who raised you, and your desperate need to join the ranks of your abusers to avoid the truth of your victimhood. You imagine that your sense of right and wrong is inherent, when it's actually just your warped brainwashed "feelings" that aren't really feeling anything at all, but are simply horrible prejudices, fears, and insecurities.
> Absurds usually regarded as having 'average' intelligence (and some may > even > bring the IQ average down a bit). ----------------- As is found to be generally true of rightists, you have lower IQ's. As academic achievement rises, more Left-leaning conclusions are reached, which galls you no end.
> The Argument > > Back in the 1950's and 1960's, the majority of the people did NOT want > integration of blacks with whites. -------------- Yes. They were ignorant of blacks and consequently afraid.
> It was well known even then how dangerous blacks can be. --------------- Due to their far greater abuse at the hands of white bigots, of course.
> It was well known that blacks are more often than > not much less intelligent and more violent. ------------------ Because of withheld academic opportunity and mistreatment. We wished to end that.
> It was also known that mix > breeding with blacks would be quite disastrous for the same reasons. ------------------------------ Now here's where you prove you're an ignorant brainwashed bigot who works solely on a "feeling", because there's NO scientific support WHATSOEVER for that belief.
> The Government however, in an effort to bring the whites and blacks > together, caught on quick about how to convince them of doing so. They [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > prison, and make less money (or not work at all). Their only way was with > the Absurds. ------------------ No, the government at the time were Left-Populists, who saw that blacks had been denied equality by you ignorant rightist bigots long enough, and so they and the democratic majority who had fought WW-II and KNEW from that war's integration of the armed forces that blacks were fine people took measures to stop it.
> The Government began with their propaganda about how wrong it was to keep > blacks down and showed videos and gave stories of the few times that whites > would resist blacks. (They NEVER showed that the majority of racial crime > has always been committed by blacks against whites). They did everything > they could to keep the hard facts and statistics hidden, and pushed their > campaign of 'feeling' against the Absurds. ------------------------ Everybody knew of "black crime", you liar, and MOST of us knew that MOST black crime was against blacks, JUST LIKE most white crime was against whites, and because each group was ghetto-ed together. We also knew that the increased crime among blacks was due to natural forces that would have been true of whites if whites had been similarly disadvantaged, as that same kind of crime had been replicated among whites time and time again in America's past when white groups like the Irish and Italians were enduring prejudice and disenfranchisement. All you're doing is trying to propagate what you KNOW is nothing but a racist LIE!
The really SAD thing about little sh.t like you is that you actually KNOW that you're LYING, and that you THINK that LYING is the only way to say the kind of sh.t that you FEEL, (rather than THINK, of course!)
> Recently (since about the 1970s and 1980s) homosexuals have pursued the > same > agenda. ----------------------------- Yes, they want to be equally advantaged members of society!
> "At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and > nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full 'appreciation' or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > battle for legal and social rights is virtually won" (The Overhauling of > Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987.) ----------------------- And that is true, it is exactly that, something that has always been with us and is harmless, if not an important feature of humanity.
> What NIGGERS are missing leaves the NIGGERS without an ability to think > about what NIGGERS are missing. ------------------------ Disdavantage has always been circular, which is WHY it takes the outer society to end the disadvantage, rather than being the duty solely of the disadvantaged group. Once you steal what a person has it is monstrously difficult for him to pull himself up, having no longer the tools to do the job.
> Therefore, NIGGERS need not respond. > > I. M. White -------------------------- And that proves that you're nothing but a shitty little brainless ignorant nut-fringe bigoted racist, promoting his childhood terrors without knowledge or intelligence. Steve
Tommy - 20 Jan 2006 01:00 GMT > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > lojbab Have a look at this Bob. http://tinyurl.com/8molw You will need to scroll down for the pics. Care to explain why the media is silent? If the races were reversed, we would never hear the end of it.
Roger - 20 Jan 2006 01:39 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Tommy wrote in message <uFWzf.159$2z6.22@fe05.lga>:
>Have a look at this Bob. >http://tinyurl.com/8molw >You will need to scroll down for the pics. Care to explain why the media is >silent? Because your claim that they are is a lie.
Why do you continue to post references that you *know* don't even tell half the story?
>If the races were reversed, we would never hear the end of it. Because you say so?
Hardly.
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 03:42 GMT > > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Have a look at this Bob. > http://tinyass.com/8molw ---------------------------- GOD I hope that this society gathers up all you bigots and kills you real soon. Steve
Tommy - 21 Jan 2006 00:10 GMT
>> Have a look at this Bob. >> http://tinyass.com/8molw > ---------------------------- > GOD I hope that this society gathers up all you bigots and kills > you real soon. > Steve Wart, you and I both know that blacks are feral. Some point this out, others such as yourself excuse it, don't threaten death upon those that point out the obvious.
Roger - 21 Jan 2006 21:16 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Tommy wrote in message <2020362.CPuO4o11B4@FreeBSD>:
>Wart, you and I both know that blacks are feral. Some point this out, others >such as yourself excuse it, don't threaten death upon those that point out >the obvious. Maybe *now* we can back to your idiocy that "whites" and "blacks" aren't the same biological Family?
R. Steve Walz - 23 Jan 2006 07:11 GMT > >> Have a look at this Bob. > >> http://tinyass.com/8molw [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wart, you and I both know that blacks are feral. ------------------- Obviously you don't even know the meaning of the word. Steve
Tommy - 23 Jan 2006 11:29 GMT >> >> Have a look at this Bob. >> >> http://tinyass.com/8molw [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Obviously you don't even know the meaning of the word. > Steve Unlike you, I didn't have to look the word up.
Roger - 24 Jan 2006 00:25 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Tommy wrote in message <GJdBf.365$F16.107@fe04.lga>:
>Unlike you, I didn't have to look the word up. But you *did* have to look up those lies about the Shuttle -- where *did* you get them?
R. Steve Walz - 23 Jan 2006 12:37 GMT > In one age, called the Second Age by some, > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But you *did* have to look up those lies about the Shuttle -- where > *did* you get them? You're a sh.t f.cking LIAR! I didn't write that Roger.
Roger - 24 Jan 2006 01:18 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be R. Steve Walz wrote in message <qJeBf.120$772.115@fe05.lga>:
>> In one age, called the Second Age by some, >> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) >> someone claiming to be Tommy wrote >> in message <GJdBf.365$F16.107@fe04.lga>:
>>>Unlike you, I didn't have to look the word up.
>> But you *did* have to look up those lies about the Shuttle -- where >> *did* you get them?
>You're a sh.t f.cking LIAR! I didn't write that Roger. Nor did I claim that you had.
"someone claiming to be Tommy wrote"
See?
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 04:26 GMT > In one age, called the Second Age by some, > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > See? -------------- Roger, look at the header, that wasn't me. Tommy's losing so he's playing sock-puppet games. Steve
Tommy - 24 Jan 2006 09:24 GMT > Roger, look at the header, that wasn't me. > Tommy's losing so he's playing sock-puppet games. > Steve I'm not losing anything..
Collapse of U.S. Economy Imminent
In its attempt to establish a world empire dominating every nation on the planet, the U.S. has exhausted its ability to finance the expansion and the country now faces imminent financial collapse. From all indications, it looks like 2006 will spell the end for America.
Consider these five important points:
Point #1 The U.S., Great Britain and Israel are preparing to attack Iran. As it appears the main reason for invading Iraq was to stop it from selling oil in Euros, likewise Iran has plans to dump the dollar come March 2006.
Point #2 U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow issued a warning recently that the U.S. Government is on the verge of collapse - as the statutory debt limit imposed by Congress of $8.184 trillion dollars would be reached in mid-February - the government would then be unable to continue its normal operations. Considering the current total U.S. debt stands at $8.162 trillion dollars, once the official debt ceiling ($8.184 trillion) is reached, the U.S. government’s credit abroad (its borrowing power) is gone. Those countries (mainly China) who presently keep America afloat by holding U.S. Treasury Notes, will most likely no longer continue doing so.
Point #3 Bank Of America and Compass Bank managers (probably all other U.S. banks too) have been instructing their employees in the last few weeks on how to respond to customer demands in the event of a collapse of the U.S. economy - specifically telling the employees that only agents from the Department Of Homeland Security will have authority to decide what belongings customers may have from their safe deposit boxes - and that precious metals and other valuables will not be released to U.S. citizens. The bank employees have been strictly prohibited from revealing the banks’ new "guidelines" to anyone. (however, employees have been talking to friends and family)
The next time you visit your bank, ask them about it - then ask yourself, why is this information being kept secret from customers and the public - what’s really going on?
Point #4 FEMA has activated and is currently staffing its vast network of empty internment camps with armed military personnel - unknown to most Americans, these large federal facilities are strategically positioned across the U.S. landscape to "manage" the population in the event of a "terrorist" attack, a civilian uprising, large-scale dissent ,or an insurrection against the government. Some of these razor-wired facilities have the capacity of detaining a million people.
Point #5 The Patriot Act and the US Senate’s vote to ban habeas corpus (Nov 14th) - along with George W. Bush having signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act, have together pretty much destroyed any notions of freedom and justice for Americans.
Summary: The U.S. economy is broken, the United States is bankrupt - the unchecked spending by this administration, the illegally waged wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, the cost of unprecedented weapons and military build-up - have all contributed to an irreversible emergency which is threatening our nation’s existence and our very lives.
Hospitals are closing, major corporations are declaring bankruptcy and/or moving their companies overseas, the monopolized news media spews nothing but lies, and our fearless leaders have turned out to be only ruthless criminals hell-bent on destabilizing our country and robbing us all.
Be aware - we stand at the threshold of total ruin - the international bankers and war profiteers care little for our lives and families - these demons worship money and all things vile and evil - they have very much to gain from war, misery, disease, famine, chaos and death (our deaths).
We are right on the edge - the Treasury is already overextended - the U.S. government cannot (and will not) care for its own citizens’ needs, nor secure our borders against illegal aliens - plus, the whole "terrorist" thing is a cruel hoax perpetrated against a trusting citizenry - and only designed to instill fear and garner support for the genocide taking place in Iraq.
Should America (along with British & Israeli forces) launch a war against Iran, or another country, without yet paying for, or even recovering from the current losses in Iraq and elsewhere - the costs of such of an invasion will overwhelm an already crippled economy and push the U.S. over the edge into oblivion.
Question: Considering the U.S. Treasury Notes that China currently holds (which keeps the U.S. economy going)...
Do you think China will continue to support a country’s economy (the U.S.) whose military launches a nuclear strike against its neighbor (Iran) - thus delivering a blanket of radioactive fallout over western Chinese provinces - killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of its citizens?
I think not.
Factoring in the aforementioned points of "preparation" engineered by U.S. authorities, I’d say there’s a stinking rat in the woodpile ...can you smell it too?
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9995
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 22:37 GMT > > Roger, look at the header, that wasn't me. > > Tommy's losing so he's playing sock-puppet games. > > Steve > > I'm not losing anything.. -------------------- Sure you are. You do that every time we hit the nail on the head about you. Steve
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 04:25 GMT > You're a sh.t f.cking LIAR! I didn't write that Roger. ---------------- That's not me, I'm not rsw@yahoo.com .
I use ONLY rstevew@armory.com . Steve
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 04:23 GMT > >> >> Have a look at this Bob. > >> >> http://tinyass.com/8molw [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Unlike you, I didn't have to look the word up. ---------------------------------- No I didn't have to, I just knew, you needed to, but didn't, and that's why you didn't know! Steve
Tommy - 24 Jan 2006 09:13 GMT > No I didn't have to, I just knew, > you needed to, but didn't, and that's why you didn't know! > Steve I did use the word in it's correct context.
"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger, quoted in "Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW's in Vietnam" This week the American Free Press dropped a "dirty bomb" on the Pentagon by reporting that eight out of 20 men who served in one unit in the 2003 U.S. military offensive in Iraq now have malignancies. That means that 40 percent of the soldiers in that unit have developed malignancies in just 16 months. Since these soldiers were exposed to vaccines and depleted uranium (DU) only, this is strong evidence for researchers and scientists working on this issue, that DU is the definitive cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Vaccines are not known to cause cancer. One of the first published researchers on Gulf War Syndrome, who also served in 1991 in Iraq, Dr. Andras Korényi-Both, is in agreement with Barbara Goodno from the Department of Defense's Deployment Health Support Directorate, that in this war soldiers were not exposed to chemicals, pesticides, bioagents or other suspect causes this time to confuse the issue. This powerful new evidence is blowing holes in the cover-up perpetrated by the Pentagon and three presidential administrations ever since DU was first used in 1991 in the Persian Gulf War. Fourteen years after the introduction of DU on the battlefield in 1991, the long-term effects have revealed that DU is a death sentence and very nasty stuff. Scientists studying the biological effects of uranium in the 1960s reported that it targets the DNA. Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist retired from the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and formerly involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in soldiers from the 2003 war as "spectacular ... and a matter of concern." This evidence shows that of the three effects which DU has on biological systems - radiation, chemical and particulate - the particulate effect from nano-size particles is the most dominant one immediately after exposure and targets the Master Code in the DNA. This is bad news, but it explains why DU causes a myriad of diseases which are difficult to define. In simple words, DU "trashes the body." When asked if the main purpose for using it was for destroying things and killing people, Fulk was more specific: "I would say that it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people." Soldiers developing malignancies so quickly since 2003 can be expected to develop multiple cancers from independent causes. This phenomenon has been reported by doctors in hospitals treating civilians following NATO bombing with DU in Yugoslavia in 1998-1999 and the U.S. military invasion of Iraq using DU for the first time in 1991. Medical experts report that this phenomenon of multiple malignancies from unrelated causes has been unknown until now and is a new syndrome associated with internal DU exposure. Just 467 U.S. personnel were wounded in the three-week Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991. Out of 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are dead, and by 2000 there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. This astounding number of disabled vets means that a decade later, 56 percent of those soldiers who served now have medical problems. The number of disabled vets reported up to 2000 has been increasing by 43,000 every year. Brad Flohr of the Department of Veterans Affairs told American Free Press that he believes there are more disabled vets now than even after World War II. They brought it home Not only were soldiers exposed to DU on and off the battlefields, but they brought it home. DU in the semen of soldiers internally contaminated their wives, partners and girlfriends. Tragically, some women in their 20s and 30s who were sexual partners of exposed soldiers developed endometriosis and were forced to have hysterectomies because of health problems. In a group of 251 soldiers from a study group in Mississippi who had all had normal babies before the Gulf War, 67 percent of their post-war babies were born with severe birth defects. They were born with missing legs, arms, organs or eyes or had immune system and blood diseases. In some veterans' families now, the only normal or healthy members of the family are the children born before the war. The Department of Veterans Affairs has stated that they do not keep records of birth defects occurring in families of veterans. How did they hide it? Before a new weapons system can be used, it must be fully tested. The blueprint for depleted uranium weapons is a 1943 declassified document from the Manhattan Project. Harvard President and physicist James B. Conant, who developed poison gas in World War I, was brought into the Manhattan Project by the father of presidential candidate John Kerry. Kerry's father served at a high level in the Manhattan Project and was a CIA agent. Conant was chair of the S-1 Poison Gas Committee, which recommended developing poison gas weapons from the radioactive trash of the atomic bomb project in World War II. At that time, it was known that radioactive materials dispersed in bombs from the air, from land vehicles or on the battlefield produced very fine radioactive dust which would penetrate all protective clothing, any gas mask or filter or the skin. By contaminating the lungs and blood, it could kill or cause illness very quickly. They also recommended it as a permanent terrain contaminant, which could be used to destroy populations by contaminating water supplies and agricultural land with the radioactive dust. The first DU weapons system was developed for the Navy in 1968, and DU weapons were given to and used by Israel in 1973 under U.S. supervision in the Yom Kippur war against the Arabs. The Phalanx weapons system, using DU, was tested on the USS Bigelow out of Hunters Point Naval Shipyard in 1977, and DU weapons have been sold by the U.S. to 29 countries. Military research report summaries detail the testing of DU from 1974-1999 at military testing grounds, bombing and gunnery ranges and at civilian labs under contract. Today 42 states are contaminated with DU from manufacture, testing and deployment. Women living around these facilities have reported increases in endometriosis, birth defects in babies, leukemia in children and cancers and other diseases in adults. Thousands of tons of DU weapons tested for decades by the Navy on four bombing and gunnery ranges around Fallon, Nevada, is no doubt the cause of the fastest growing leukemia cluster in the U.S. over the past decade. The military denies that DU is the cause. The medical profession has been active in the cover-up - just as they were in hiding the effects from the American public - of low level radiation from atmospheric testing and nuclear power plants. A medical doctor in Northern California reported being trained by the Pentagon with other doctors, months before the 2003 war started, to diagnose and treat soldiers returning from the 2003 war for mental problems only. Medical professionals in hospitals and facilities treating returning soldiers were threatened with $10,000 fines if they talked about the soldiers or their medical problems. They were also threatened with jail. Reporters have also been prevented access to more than 14,000 medically evacuated soldiers flown nightly since the 2003 war in C-150s from Germany who are brought to Walter Reed Hospital near Washington, D.C. Dr. Robert Gould, former president of the Bay Area chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), has contacted three medical doctors since February 2004, after I had been invited to speak about DU. Dr. Katharine Thomasson, president of the Oregon chapter of the PSR, informed me that Dr. Gould had contacted her and tried to convince her to cancel her invitation for me to speak about DU at Portland State University on April 12. Although I was able to do a presentation, Dr. Thomasson told me I could only talk about DU in Oregon "and nothing overseas ... nothing political." Dr. Gould also contacted and discouraged Dr. Ross Wilcox in Toronto, Canada, from inviting me to speak to Physicians for Global Survival (PGS), the Canadian equivalent of PSR, several months later. When that didn't work, he contacted Dr. Allan Connoly, the Canadian national president of PGS, who was able to cancel my invitation and nearly succeeded in preventing Dr. Wilcox, his own member, from showing photos and presenting details on civilians suffering from DU exposure and cancer provided to him by doctors in southern Iraq. Dr. Janette Sherman, a former and long-standing member of PSR, reported that she finally quit some time after being invited to lunch by a new PSR executive administrator. After the woman had pumped Dr. Sherman for information all through lunch about her position on key issues, the woman informed Dr. Sherman that her last job had been with the CIA. How was the truth about DU hidden from military personnel serving in successive DU wars? Before his tragic death, Sen. Paul Wellstone informed Joyce Riley, R.N., B.S.N., executive director of the American Gulf War Veterans Association, that 95 percent of Gulf War veterans had been recycled out of the military by 1995. Any of those continuing in military service were isolated from each other, preventing critical information being transferred to new troops. The "next DU war" had already been planned, and those planning it wanted "no skunk at the garden party." The US has a dirty (DU) little (CIA) secret A new book just published at the American Free Press by Michael Collins Piper, "The High Priests of War: The Secret History of How America's Neo-Conservative Trotskyites Came to Power and Orchestrated the War Against Iraq as the First Step in Their Drive for Global Empire," details the early plans for a war against the Arab world by Henry Kissinger and the neo-cons in the late 1960s and early 1970s. That just happens to coincide with getting the DU "show on the road" and the oil crisis in the Middle East, which caused concern not only to President Nixon. The British had been plotting and scheming for control of the oil in Iraq for decades since first using poison gas on the Iraqis and Kurds in 1912. The book details the creation of the neo-cons by their "godfather" and Trotsky lover Irving Kristol, who pushed for a "war against terrorism" long before 9/11 and was lavishly funded for years by the CIA. His son, William Kristol, is one of the most influential men in the United States. Both are public relations men for the Israeli lobby's neo-conservative network, with strong ties to Rupert Murdoch. Kissinger also has ties to this network and the Carlyle Group, who, one could say, have facilitated these omnicidal wars beginning from the time former President Bush took office. It would be easy to say that we are recycling World Wars I and II, with the same faces. When I asked Vietnam Special Ops Green Beret Capt. John McCarthy, who could have devised this omnicidal plan to use DU to destroy the genetic code and genetic future of large populations of Arabs and Moslems in the Middle East and Central Asia - just coincidentally the areas where most of the world's oil deposits are located - he replied: "It has all the handprints of Henry Kissinger." In Zbignew Brzezinski's book "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives," the map of the Eurasian chessboard includes four regions strategic to U.S. foreign policy. The "South" region corresponds precisely to the regions now contaminated permanently with radiation from U.S. bombs, missiles and bullets made with thousands of tons of DU. A Japanese professor, Dr. K. Yagasaki, has calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. The U.S. has used more DU since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs. Four nuclear wars indeed, and 10 times the amount of radiation released into the atmosphere from atmospheric testing! No wonder our soldiers, their families and the people of the Middle East, Yugoslavia and Central Asia are sick. But as Henry Kissinger said after Vietnam when our soldiers came home ill from Agent Orange, "Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used for foreign policy." Unfortunately, more and more of those soldiers are men and women with brown skin. And unfortunately, the DU radioactive dust will be carried around the world and deposited in our environments just as the "smog of war" from the 1991 Gulf War was found in deposits in South America, the Himalayas and Hawaii. In June 2003, the World Health Organization announced in a press release that global cancer rates will increase 50 percent by 2020. What else do they know that they aren't telling us? I know that depleted uranium is a death sentence ... for all of us. We will all die in silent ways. To learn more Sources used in this story that readers are encouraged to consult: American Free Press four-part series on DU by Christopher Bollyn. Part I: "Depleted Uranium: U.S. Commits War Crime Against Iraq, Humanity," http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/depleted_uranium.html Part II: "Cancer Epidemic Caused by U.S. WMD: MD Says Depleted Uranium Definitively http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cancer_epidemic_.html Part III: "DU Syndrome Stricken Vets Denied Care: Pentagon Hides DU Dangers to Deny Medical Care toVets", http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/du_syndrome.html Part IV: "Pentagon Brass Suppresses Truth About Toxic Weapons: Poisonous Uranium Munitions Threaten World", http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/pentagon_brass.html August 2004 World Affairs Journal. Leuren Moret: "Depleted Uranium: The Trojan Horse of Nuclear War," http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul04.htm August 2004 Coastal Post Online. Carol Sterrit: "Marin Depleted Uranium Resolution Heats Up - GI's Will Come Home To A Slow Death," http://www.coastalpost.com/04/08/01.htm World Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference, Hamburg, Germany, October 16-19, 2004: http://www.uraniumweaponsconference.de/speakers.htm International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan. Written opinion of Judge Niloufer Baghwat: http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm "Discounted Casualties: The Human Cost of Nuclear War" by Akira Tashiro, foreword by Leuren Moret, http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/index_e.html Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who has worked around the world on radiation issues, educating citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress and other officials. She became a whistleblower in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after experiencing major science fraud on the Yucca Mountain Project. An environmental commissioner in the City of Berkeley, she can be reached at leurenmoret@yahoo.com. http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Depleteduranium081804.shtml http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9993
Roger - 24 Jan 2006 22:34 GMT In one age, called the Second Age by some, (an Age yet to come, an Age long past) someone claiming to be Tommy wrote in message <2QwBf.988$wH6.568@fe05.lga>:
>> No I didn't have to, I just knew, >> you needed to, but didn't, and that's why you didn't know!
>I did use the word in it's correct context. That's "its," and now you didn't.
Anymore than you used your lies about the Shuttle in the context of your lies about the Moon landings correctly.
Is there a reason you are running from discussing *those*?
R. Steve Walz - 24 Jan 2006 22:35 GMT > > No I didn't have to, I just knew, > > you needed to, but didn't, and that's why you didn't know! > > Steve > > I did use the word in it's correct context. ----------------------- African Americans are not raised in the wild or by wild animals after previous civilized domesticity, so no you're not.
You're just a sh.t-licking racist smarming again. Steve
Bob LeChevalier - 20 Jan 2006 04:51 GMT >> This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >You will need to scroll down for the pics. Care to explain why the media is >silent? The media is not silent http://westtexas.cox.net/cci/newslocal/local?_mode=view&view=LocalNewsArticleVie w&articleId=1222785 http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa060117_mo _rollerdervy.1320d250.html and others. It appears that there are conflicting versions of what happened (most of them not mentioning race), and I for one tend to believe the police over a bunch of subhuman racist slime Nazis. One article with considerable details seems to be saying that the girl who was arrested is NOT complaining of brutality, or saying much of anything. So maybe there is less to this story than meets the eye, and someone just has a knack for taking pictures that make it look worse than what really happened.
>If the races were reversed, we would never hear the end of it. Racist slimes keep saying that, but without evidence. Relatively few cases of cops being rough on someone resisting arrest make the news, unless someone dies.
lojbab
R. Steve Walz - 20 Jan 2006 02:59 GMT > This fable explains the destructive thinking of a Nazi mindset. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > lojbab ------------------- Now THAT'S baloney illogic that just HAPPENS to be RIGHT!
But of course that's a truth unrelated to its content. Steve
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