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Family Forum / Parenting / Parenting / November 2003High School Girls Beat Up Indecent Exposer
High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself Email this story Oct 31, 10:31 am ET PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A man described by authorities as a known sexual predator was chased through the streets of South Philadelphia by an angry crowd of Catholic high school girls, who kicked and punched him after he was tackled by neighbors, police said on Friday. Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on Thursday just as students were being dismissed, police said. But this time, a group of girls in school uniforms angrily confronted Susanto with help from some neighbors, police said. When Susanto tried to run, more than 20 girls chased him down the block. Two men from the neighborhood caught him and the girls took their revenge. "The girls came and started kicking him and punching him, so I wasn't going to stop them," neighbor Robert Lemons told The Philadelphia Inquirer. Susanto was later treated for injuries at a local hospital. Police said he would be charged with 14 criminal counts including harassment, disorderly conduct, open lewdness and corrupting the morals of a minor. > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > an angry crowd of Catholic high school girls, who kicked and punched him > after he was tackled by neighbors, police said on Friday. ---------------------- Misdirected sexual energy. Just like the Salem Witch Trials. > Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > he would be charged with 14 criminal counts including harassment, > disorderly conduct, open lewdness and corrupting the morals of a minor. ---------------- Nonsense. His morals were superior. He was being informative. Catholic schoolgirls are the deluded ones, as they all discover later when they can't cum. Steve > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ---------------------- > Misdirected sexual energy. Just like the Salem Witch Trials. You could've said the Inquisition. Seriously, if he was doing something lewd without their consent, they should pummel him to a bloody pulp. > > Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > > as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Catholic schoolgirls are the deluded ones, as they all discover > later when they can't cum. Orgasms aren't the end-all-and-be-all, Stevie-boy. He did it so he could get off. In effect, it was a rape; the only reason it isn't considered such is because there was no penetration. > > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > something lewd without their consent, they should pummel him to a > bloody pulp. -------------------------------- He has the right to be nude in public, and to get laughed at if they choose to laugh, anything else is dictatoriship and a violation of human rights. > > > Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > > > as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Orgasms aren't the end-all-and-be-all, Stevie-boy. ----------------- Lie, they are the be-all and end-all of all human existence. They are what wars are fought for, and what all human drama results from. > He did it so he > could get off. In effect, it was a rape; the only reason it isn't > considered such is because there was no penetration. ------------------------------ It wasn't rape, anymore than if those girls had taken off their clothes and taunted HIM. The violence of their attack was misdirected sexual tension. Steve > > > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > choose to laugh, anything else is dictatoriship and a violation of > human rights. He wasn't simply nude. Usually 'exposed himself' means that he specifically showed them his genitals - and only his genitals. > > > > Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > > > > as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > They are what wars are fought for, and what all human drama > results from. Wars are fought for orgasms? And here I thought we both agreed humans weren't necessarily polygynous! LOL > He wasn't simply nude. Usually 'exposed himself' means that he > specifically showed them his genitals - and only his genitals. Not sure where you guys live but where I live we have laws called indecent exposure. Here is how sticked they are..Ever been driving down the road and had to take a piss? So you go behind a tree or a building and the only thing a person can see is the back-side of your jeans. If the cops see you doing that they can nail ya for indecent exposure. It's true..........Even if a woman squats down and ya can't see anything, they will nail her tooo. > > He wasn't simply nude. Usually 'exposed himself' means that he > > specifically showed them his genitals - and only his genitals. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It's true..........Even if a woman squats down and ya can't see anything, > they will nail her tooo. -------------- Don't be stupid, exposure means exposed TO someone. Steve > "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > He wasn't simply nude. Usually 'exposed himself' means that he > specifically showed them his genitals - and only his genitals. ---------------------------- Then he was partially dressed, my answer to you does NOT change. How stupid and culture-strangled of you to even imagine it would! > > > > > Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > > > > > as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [] > > > > > disorderly conduct, open lewdness and corrupting the morals of a minor. > > > > ---------------- [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Wars are fought for orgasms? And here I thought we both agreed humans > weren't necessarily polygynous! LOL ------------------------- Humans are polygamous, and more polynadrous, actually, as are all apes. The frustration of the need for sex early in life is what is waved in front of the call to arms to coerce teens to fight wars for bandit lords, the promise of raping the women of their enemies is simply too great. In the modern era it is the emergency generated by potential for impending untimely death that permits sex for the young soldier whom the girl would now feel it unfair to refuse, or so the young a.shole recruit believes, even though the stupid young brainwashed virgins usually do refuse! War kills mostly stupid young virgins without the savvy or the couth to avoid the draft. Steve Steve, point me to the law that says he has a right to be naked in public, I must've missed that one. > > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >Steve > > Steve, point me to the law that says he has a right to be naked in > public, I must've missed that one. ---------------------------------- Don't defend the indefensible. That right is available in numerically most of the world's cultures where there are no such oppressive religious "dress codes", and without being beaten up by brainwashed catholic schoolgirls who are overwhelmed by the stimulation of their systematically repressed sexuality! In every decent culture in the world the girls would be jailed for assault! Steve > >>>>High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >tension. > >Steve As I said and you confirmed, there is no such law. > > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>>Steve >>> > As I said and you confirmed, there is no such law. ------------------------- There will be, and then such behavior will be seen as criminal for all time then and in the past, as it is and should be. Steve > >>Steve, point me to the law that says he has a right to be naked in > >>public, I must've missed that one. [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >>>tension. > >>>Steve > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >for all time then and in the past, as it is and should be. >Steve Dream on. Not in your lifetime. > > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] >>>>>Steve >>>>> > >>As I said and you confirmed, there is no such law. > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Dream on. Not in your lifetime. ---------------------------- Maybe, maybe not! But soon! Steve > >>>>Steve, point me to the law that says he has a right to be naked in > >>>>public, I must've missed that one. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >>>world the girls would be jailed for assault! > >>>Steve > > > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > something lewd without their consent, they should pummel him to a > > bloody pulp. I agree with Steve. As a young girl growing up, and being blessed with a good shape and better legs, I did what many young girls do everyday. To boys their own age and older, I would tease men with my legs and the way I sat. If the guy was real cute, I did what many girls do everyday to men everywhere, I would let them see my panties. If you call this rape then more women rape men than men women. Is this true about women? Of course it is. Does it fit a polticial agenda? Of course not. Then will it be used anywhere against young women? Never. > -------------------------------- > He has the right to be nude in public, and to get laughed at if they [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > tension. > Steve > > > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > something lewd without their consent, they should pummel him to a > > bloody pulp. I agree with Steve. As a young girl growing up, and being blessed with a good shape and better legs, I did what many young girls do everyday. To boys their own age and older, I would tease men with my legs and the way I sat. If the guy was real cute, I did what many girls do everyday to men everywhere, I would let them see my panties. If you call this rape then more women rape men than men women. Is this true about women? Of course it is. Does it fit a polticial agenda? Of course not. Then will it be used anywhere against young women? Never. > -------------------------------- > He has the right to be nude in public, and to get laughed at if they [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > tension. > Steve > > > > > High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I sat. If the guy was real cute, I did what many girls do everyday to > men everywhere, I would let them see my panties. ------------------------- And I bet you were very sweet and hot-looking. > If you call this rape > then more women rape men than men women. Is this true about women? Of > course it is. Does it fit a polticial agenda? Of course not. Then will > it be used anywhere against young women? Never. ----------------------------- The backwardness of western culture regarding sex must be destroyed. Steve > > He has the right to be nude in public, and to get laughed at if they > > choose to laugh, anything else is dictatoriship and a violation of [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > tension. > > Steve Yeah, well he can console himself with that while he's in prison. > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >Steve > > Yeah, well he can console himself with that while he's in prison. ---------------------------- You should learn to be moral toward other people and to defend people's rights. The right to wear a purple shirt is no different from the right not to wear a shirt at all, and will be seen to be so in humankind's future. Believe not that which is worthless and will decay and vanish, else your legacy is for nought. Steve > >>High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >---------------------- > >Misdirected sexual energy. Just like the Salem Witch Trials. > >>Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many > >>as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >later when they can't cum. > >Steve Not anytime soon. I personally found it amusing. Maybe these people who pick on young girls might think twice if more of them beat the snot out of them. > > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >>>Steve >>> > Not anytime soon. I personally found it amusing. Maybe these people > who pick on young girls might think twice if more of them beat the snot > out of them. -------------- Don't try to turn it around fraudulently, he "picked on" NO ONE, they beat him up for violating their own religious guilt complex. It's the same as being beaten up by Baptists for being Catholic. Steve > >>Yeah, well he can console himself with that while he's in prison. > >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >>>later when they can't cum. > >>>Steve He exposed himself to a group of girls who apparently weren't in the mood!! He broke the law, and they took it into their own hands (so to speak). > > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>>>Steve >>>>> > He exposed himself to a group of girls who apparently weren't in the > mood!! He broke the law, and they took it into their own hands (so to > speak). --------------------- He didn't hit them, they had no such right. The law is an a.s. -Mark Twain Steve > >>Not anytime soon. I personally found it amusing. Maybe these people > >>who pick on young girls might think twice if more of them beat the snot [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >>>>>later when they can't cum. > >>>>>Steve I don't want to see someone's dick, thanks. If I do I can ask. Otherwise, keep it in your pants. If you don't, the law steps in or you just might get more than you bargained for, such as in this incidence (chuckle). > > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>>>>>Steve >>>>>>> > I don't want to see someone's dick, thanks. ------------ Whether you do or don't ain't your business. Unless you look intentionally. > If I do I can ask. ------------- You can ASK, but living alone delusionally with your cats and insane stacks of magazines because nobody will take your crap isn't likely to get you a date. > Otherwise, keep it in your pants. -------------- We're removing the laws on pants, get used you it, you stupid f.cking fundy prig! > If you don't, the law steps in --------------- That "law" is an a.s, and going bye-bye. > or > you just might get more than you bargained for, such as in this > incidence (chuckle). ------------------------ In the future, bitches who try that will be raped by the public at large in pillories. Steve > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Whether you do or don't ain't your business. >Unless you look intentionally. It is in public dear. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >insane stacks of magazines because nobody will take your crap >isn't likely to get you a date. Steve you are full of sh.t. I've been married for 25 years, thanks. For all of your prattling about stereotypes you are so full of them it's pathetic. Does that make you feel better? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >We're removing the laws on pants, get used you it, you stupid >f.cking fundy prig! Yeah, yadda yadda yadda. Call me when it goes into effect, eh? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >--------------- >That "law" is an a.s, and going bye-bye. See above. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Steve > Hah!! Only in YOUR dreams. > >>I don't want to see someone's dick, thanks. > >------------ > >Whether you do or don't ain't your business. > >Unless you look intentionally. > > > It is in public dear. ------------------------------- Same-same. It's not anyone else's business what another wears or does, as long as it doesn't offend against another's rights to do the same. > >>If I do I can ask. > >------------- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > For all of your prattling about stereotypes you are so full of them > it's pathetic. Does that make you feel better? -------------------------------- Irrelevant. Many marriages are sexless and/or loveless. > >>Otherwise, keep it in your pants. > >-------------- [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yeah, yadda yadda yadda. Call me when it goes into effect, eh? ---------------------- You'll see! > >>or > >>you just might get more than you bargained for, such as in this [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Hah!! Only in YOUR dreams. ---------------------- Dreams are the Future. Steve > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >does, as long as it doesn't offend against another's rights to >do the same. It sure is. By law. > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Irrelevant. >Many marriages are sexless and/or loveless. Well hon mine isn't either! 25 years to be exact, in November. > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >---------------------- >You'll see! Yeah call me. > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Dreams are the Future. >Steve You know Steve you have such a fondness for rape. It really shows how screwed up you are in certain areas. > > >>>>I don't want to see someone's dick, thanks. > >>>------------ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > It sure is. By law. ------------------ That will now change. > >>>>If I do I can ask. > >>>------------- [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Well hon mine isn't either! 25 years to be exact, in November. --------------------------- Sometimes idiots give up and stay, sort of. > >>>>Otherwise, keep it in your pants. > >>>-------------- [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > You know Steve you have such a fondness for rape. ---------------------- Some brainwashed antisexuals need it. > It really shows how > screwed up you are in certain areas. ---------------------------- That's just the sh.t in your head talking. Steve I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. The right to expose one self is not a human right. I do not have the right to force my misguided sexual behavior on anyone. However I do have the right to be free of someone elses perverted actions. As for surpressed sexual energy I say 2 things. One, go back to you mystic guide and seek what ever BS you can claim they told you. Two, do some real study of human sexuality. It is the uncontroled sexual energy that is the problem. It is one's inability to channel and direct that drive in a more positive and constructive way. It is thanking like yours that get children and women raped and drive loving couples in to hatred and devorce. The fruit confirms the bad seed. > > Yeah, well he can console himself with that while he's in prison. > ---------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > >later when they can't cum. > > >Steve > I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not > have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. --------------------- No it isn't, merely that you're a f.cking brainwashed little fundy shithead, nothing more is clear, nor are you capable of knowing. > The right to expose one self is not a human right. --------------------- Of course it is, it is the state of nature, humans lived that way for well over a 100,000 years, and this recent digression is nothing more than a cultural aberration, both temporally and locally, since it isn't even true in a majority of cultures currrently on earth! The effort to say otherwise is nothing more than an effort to inflict your little sh.t-religion of sick antisexual sheep-f.ckers on the rest of the world's sane people. > I do not have the right to force my misguided sexual behavior on > anyone. --------------------- And that's precisely what trying to control what anyone else is wearing or doing besides yourself amounts to, you vicious little brainwashed fundy piece of abusive trash! On a majority of the beaches in the world, nudity goes entirely unopposed by the law and is unproblematic. What others are wearing or doing on the earth is no body's f.cking business but theirs. All you fundy sh.t want to do is restrict the REST of the world into doing your brainwashing of your children for you, so that you won't ever have to EXPLAIN why you're so f.cking backward and twisted and why you want them to unnaturally be unsexual and hide their bodies from each other!! When the rest of us tell you to f.ck off and go nude and f.ck in public, your sick little perversion of a religion and a violation of human freedom and the human spirit won't last more than about 5 minutes when your kids get to see the TRUE human nature firsthand, and your stupid little religion for which sex is your model for all "sin" will f.cking SELF-DESTRUCT INSTANTANEOUSLY!! > However I do have the right to > be free of someone elses perverted actions. ----------------------- NOT if what you have tried to define as a "perversion" is actually the normal human practice of freedom and normal sexuality just as the way we EVOLVED!! There are no such perversions that amount to one's own chosen manner of dress or voluntary activity among people, your definition of "perversion" is ITSELF a perversion and a f.cking LIE! Nothing more! > As for surpressed sexual energy I say 2 things. One, go back to you > mystic guide and seek what ever BS you can claim they told you. ------------- You ignorant fundy sh.t are the only weak a.sholes who need ministers and religious figures to tell you what is "true", the rest of us KNOW what is TRUE from WITHIN OURSELVES AND OUR HUMAN NATURE, and we KNOW that you're sheep-f.cker religion is a COMPLETE LIE! > Two, > do some real study of human sexuality. It is the uncontroled sexual > energy that is the problem. ---------------------- Garbage, there is NO such extraordinary "energy" when sex is NORMAL and expected and relaxed, rather than energized by your terror, fear, superstition, repression, and your guilt, shame, and viciousness toward it that arises from your distorted perverted insanity about sex!! > It is one's inability to channel and > direct that drive in a more positive and constructive way. -------------------------- That sex must be repressed to either generate other drives or to "civilize" people is a total MYTH! It was the Church repression of European sexuality that caused the murder, enslavement, and abuse of native people's by European colonialist madmen and criminals in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, and is that which has taken human civilization into this dark blind alley of sexual neurosis and fear. > It is thanking like yours that get children and women raped and drive > loving couples in to hatred and devorce. The fruit confirms the bad > seed. ----------------------------------- You're a complete idiot, divorce results from the INBUILT inherent defects of monogamy and the serf/slave "nuclear" family, a remnant of slavery wherein we were restricted from NORMAL TRIBAL sexuality in groups to prevent us from organizing emotionally together against the warlord-bandits that became the European "nobility" that enslaved Europe for 1200 years!! The reason slaves are only permitted one sex partner is so they don't KNOW anyone else closely and so that they can be threatened with the withdrawal of their one sex partner by their "OWNERS"! They are thereby made to distrust their inborn allies, the members of their same sex, who would otherwise surely be their co-spouses in a tribal sexuality, but who in monogamy must become distrusted rivals!! And it is that distrust is what keeps people apart and disorganized so that slavers and Capitalists can OWN us and sell us sh.t we don't need to try to replace all that we lost in a society where people live in private boxes three feet apart!!! If you had twenty lovers you lived and worked with, would YOU need a f.cking SUV??? THINK ABOUT IT!! YOU'RE BEING ENSLAVED BY THESE FUNDY PRICK CAPITALIST BASTARDS! KILL THE ONWERS AND THE LANDLORDS AND RECAPTURE THE WORLD BY FORCE!! Steve > > > Yeah, well he can console himself with that while he's in prison. > > ---------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > >later when they can't cum. > > > >Steve Why don't you try learning something for a change. It is not A religious view I posted. It is current psycho research. It is science. All religion will tell you is it is a sin. If you are so set in thinking humans should act like animals then perhaps that is where you should be. Go ahead and through your cloths and humanity away walk on out into the woods for the rest of your life. It will not take long for you to find out exactly what a real animal thinks of you. > > I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not > > have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] > > > > >later when they can't cum. > > > > >Steve > Why don't you try learning something for a change. > It is not A religious view I posted. ---------------- Of course it is, there's no restriction on sexuality or dress built into the US Constitution!! There's NOTHING that says that people having the right to freedom should not have the right to dress AS THEY PLEASE *INCLUDING* the right to be NUDE PUBLICALLY! It is nothing but a religious superstition, like the earth being FLAT! > It is current psycho research. ---------------- Nope. Lie, there isn't any such thing. > It is science. -------------- Nope, more lies. Ain't any such "research". > All religion will tell you is it is a sin. ------------- Religion has no standing in law, nor any power to control anyone in our society unless they wish to accept it. Religions are figmentary and fictional bullshit. > If you are so > set in thinking humans should act like animals then perhaps that is > where you should be. ------------- We ARE animals, you stupid dunce. There is no distinction between the set of things we do and the things other apes do. > Go ahead and through your cloths ------------- It's spelled "clothes", you MORONIC ILLITERATE!! > and humanity > away walk on out into the woods for the rest of your life. --------------- Nope, I don't like wastelands. I prefer humanity and extensive human cities with cultivated parks, lawns, and gardens, as well as buildings, and good wholesome groupsex f.cking in public. > It will not > take long for you to find out exactly what a real animal thinks of > you. ------------------- "Real animals" are irrelevant, we OWN them all. There's nothing at all problematic about fully sexual nudity with driving vehicles, wearing garments that let you carry tools and weapons that still expose your genitals for convenient sexplay and f.cking. Steve > > > I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not > > > have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] > > > > > >later when they can't cum. > > > > > >Steve http://ftp.ics.uci.edu/pub/jpd/papers/1999/footprints.pdf http://www.slu.edu/publications/gc/v6-4/news_16.shtml http://www.psych.ohiou.edu/academics/grad_studies/exp_fac.html The general theme is society has a common code of conduct, which all who partakes in that society must follow. Here in the US public nudity is an anti-social behavior. Regardless of how much you want it. If this society does not fit you then YOU need to go find one that does. There is no such thing as human rights. There are only "rights" that society allows. In the US they are based on a religious history. In some societies women do not hide their breasts. It is accepted by that society. It is not a human right nor is it accepted here in the US. This has been researched and it has been proven over and over again. There is a very big difference between humans and animals. The very ability to reason is a big one. Another difference is our ability to control our sexual drives for the benefit of society. Humans are civilized. We know where to relieve ourselves, where to sleep, whom to touch, when to touch, why to touch, what to show, when to show.... Now the fact you express yourself in an abusive manner clearly shows your lack of intelligence. You may shout to the world but your words clearly counter your desires. Society requires a conduct accepted by that society. Yours and the individual in the topic of this thread are obviously not accepted. The very fact He was dealt with in the said manner clearly shows his actions were not accepted. Show proof that we have human rights and where they come from! > > Why don't you try learning something for a change. > > It is not A religious view I posted. [quoted text clipped - 193 lines] > > > > > > >later when they can't cum. > > > > > > >Steve > The general theme is society has a common code of conduct, which all > who partakes in that society must follow. ---------- Which varies like hell from society to society, which proves that NO set or mores, which will not be absolutely the SAME in EVERY human culture that will EVER exist, should be enforced, because they will simply result in the criminal and inhumane suppression of valid human liberty. > Here in the US public nudity > is an anti-social behavior. Regardless of how much you want it. If > this society does not fit you then YOU need to go find one that does. ------------ No, we need to change this one, because it's wrong, that's what we're here for and why we're arguing. People who try to suppress freedom of dress, including non-dress, and sexuality should be taken out and killed immediately as enemies of humanity, and we'll work for that for an infinite time if need be, all along the way destroying any alternate social arrangement until we get it! This devotion to human freedom will inevitably win, since any such abuse of freedom is based soley in rank religious superstition and nothing but your ridiculously incorrect anti-science! > There is no such thing as human rights. There are only "rights" that > society allows. ------------------- Yes, and those will therefore change when we the people change them, which we're doing! The Internet has put porn in every household at the touch of a few buttons, and you can't stop it! > In the US they are based on a religious history. -------------------- Not for much longer, we've destroyed most of THAT sh.t in the last 30 years, AND THERE'S MUCH MORE TO COME!!! > In > some societies women do not hide their breasts. It is accepted by that > society. It is not a human right nor is it accepted here in the US. ----------------- In Santa Cruz, Calfornia it is legal for women to go topless anywhere. They do so regularly, even have parades in summer with dozens of them. In the State of NY it is legal for women to go topless ANYWHERE! This is true in numerous States of this Union. It's also legal in all of Ontario, Canada, et alia there. It *IS* a Divine Human Right JUST *BECAUSE* SOME cultures DO manage it!! Nor does the citation of some things which some cultures do that are hideous even matter, because they are AGAINST human freddom and we manage to do WITHOUT them ELSEWHERE!! There should not be ANY restrictions on human Freedom that don't protect people from GENUINE HARM, and nudity CANNOT BE SHOWN to do any GENUINE HARM, whereas hideous imposed barbarisms can, as is evidenced by the shrieks of their victims!! > This has been researched and it has been proven over and over again. ------------------- Nonsense, there is no such "research" into what human rights are, NOR is any such EVEN POSSIBLE!! All you're touting is stupid pop opinion by other religious jerk-offs LIKE YOU! You're not even doing THAT, because you stated no study, no research, instead you pretended immaturely that it was somehow "professionally" decided, sounding like a stupid little lying religious little prick who can't explain himself reasonably so he has to pretend he has support, and then conveniently fail to meantion where and who, besides, of course, his other little churchy Fundy mental-incompetents. > There is a very big difference between humans and animals. ------------------- Sure, we have a culture!! Animals don't, per se. And YES, we can CHANGE OUR CULTURE, and we're NOW DOING THAT! Live it, or Live With it! > The very ability to reason is a big one. ------------------ Which you clearly LACK! You're trying to declare the equivalent of: "Gee, let's all stay in the trees instead of that standing upright stuff!" > Another difference is our ability to > control our sexual drives for the benefit of society. Humans are > civilized. We know where to relieve ourselves, where to sleep, whom to > touch, when to touch, why to touch, what to show, when to show.... -------------------------- No, we control our sexual drive to give us pleasure, THAT'S the BEST Benefit of Society! And NO societal concern can be seen as superior to the desire by two or more people for sexual satisfaction together! That's called FREEDOM! We DON'T EVEN HAVE a culture ANYMORE than forbids us sexual access between people who agree!! WE HAVE DESTROYED IT BY DESTROYING BULLSHIT SUPERSTITIOUS RELIGION!! All you're doing is defending this stupid dying sh.t-beast of religion. It's dying, we're killing it, GOOD f.cking RIDDANCE!! > Now the fact you express yourself in an abusive manner clearly shows > your lack of intelligence. ------------------ Nope, it only shows your lack of intelligence in forming that opinion and pretending that it is some universal, rather than just your stupid sexually repressed preference to believe it to comfort yourself about your dying religion and way of life. You'd LIKE to be able to get your little morality squad to come shut us up when we use sexual words to express ourselves, but you CAN'T anymore so you want to pretend that you have some monopoly on truth and that the use of certain WORDS you don't like and IDEAS you don't share magically makes their advocates "unintelligent", when that's nothing but an immature attitude to cover your a.s! > You may shout to the world but your words clearly counter your > desires. ------------------ That's pompous prating and posturing! And ALSO: THAT didn't make a BIT of sense! > Society requires a conduct accepted by > that society. Yours and the individual in the topic of this thread are > obviously not accepted. The very fact He was dealt with in the said > manner clearly shows his actions were not accepted. -------------------- We're changing society! It's changing and you don't like it! Get used to it!! > Show proof that we have human rights and where they come from! ------------------------ We have the rights that we're willing to fight for and TAKE BY FORCE AND THREAT OF KILLING, because no one WILL be willing to risk their lives against us if we only demand them for OURSELVES! It isn't worth it, or doesn't ever appear so, when it's TOTALLY worth it to US!! However it will lead to the end of your whole way of life, and you won't be able to justify opposing it even to yourself as well as we can justify killing you with great prejudice if you oppose us!! You see: - 1) The right to be nude in public doesn't steal your right to wear a nun's habit if you wish, but you sure won't get invited to many parties! And shortly YOU WILL BE *ALONE* because what I'm promoting is SOMETHING PEOPLE *WILL* *LOVE* once they SEE IT and TRY IT! 2) The right to f.ck in public doesn't require YOU to do so, but YOU sure will look STUPID without a date, and YOU f.cking KNOW IT! That's why NO one CAN develop the desire to try to stop US from doing what WE want, in private or public, as long as we don't do it at YOUR house, but that will happen too, because we'll change what even your kids think, and you can't stop us! You see, you can NEVER stop other people from telling your kids that you're full of sh.t, AND EXACTLY WHY, and PROVING IT BY THEIR OWN EXAMPLE! And that, you stupid a.s, is why your religion is dying, and we're joyfully KILLING IT, and YOU CAN'T STOP US AT ALL!! Steve > > > Why don't you try learning something for a change. > > > It is not A religious view I posted. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > > It will not > > > take long for you to find out exactly what a real animal thinks of > > > you. > > ------------------- [quoted text clipped - 146 lines] > > > > > > > >later when they can't cum. > > > > > > > >Steve told you. >Why don't you try learning something for a change. >It is not A religious view I posted. It is current psycho research. It [quoted text clipped - 203 lines] >>>>>>Steve >>>>>> Steve has always felt that a man's desire to push his sexuality on a woman is not bad, and he also thinks rape is ok, since the rapist would just as easily liked for you to CONSENT (You know, the "lie back and enjoy it" defense). Just wait. >I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not >have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. The right to [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] >>>>Steve >>>> > Steve has always felt that a man's desire to push his sexuality on a > woman is not bad, -------------- Not as bad as, say, murder or battery, if not accompanied by such. > and he also thinks rape is ok, --------------- Not unless it is required to achieve a normal level of human access to sex against an antisexual culture. > since the rapist would > just as easily liked for you to CONSENT (You know, the "lie back and > enjoy it" defense). -------------------------- Irrelevant and erroneous. Steve > >I have just read these post and it is very clear that Steve does not > >have a clue about human sexuality and relationships. ---------- Gee, that explains why I was married twenty years and founded several groupsex communal relationships, including a current one of very long-standing which I am a member. > The right to > >expose one self is not a human right. ------------- Of course it is, you're merely prating superstitious fundy horseshit. > >I do not have the right to force > >my misguided sexual behavior on anyone. ---------------- Wearing clothes or not, or having public sex or not, isn't a sexual behavior with onlookers. > >However I do have the right to > >be free of someone elses perverted actions. -------------------- Not in public you don't. > >It is thanking like yours that get children and women raped and drive > >loving couples in to hatred and devorce. The fruit confirms the bad > >seed. ---------------------- Vicious stupid religious liar. Steve |
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