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Ironfist5687 - 27 Jun 2004 15:28 GMT
Today one of my children's friends mothers criticized me for allowing my girl
children to be babysitted by a male. I have known him before the kids were born
and he is a retired pediatrician who worked with kids 24/7 so I trust him. I
asked why they should not be left alone with him and the only reason she could
give me was that he is male!! I mean If I trust someone with my kids to provide
a safe environment I would do it. Who would not leave their kids with someone
because either are only male?

Kurt

PS-  Steve dont answer.  I dont want to hear your crappy ignorant advice.  
Mike Rosenberg - 27 Jun 2004 15:39 GMT
> Steve dont answer.  I dont want to hear your crappy ignorant advice.

John, you should know by now that you can't dictate what happens once
you post to a newsgroup.  Besides, you said you have Steve on filter,
which means you won't see his post anyway.  Or was that another of your
many lies?

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Bill Fischer - 27 Jun 2004 21:04 GMT
Of recent years, it seems to me, our US culture--or maybe it's just
Southern California--has become more prudish and has also become more
suspicious of men. It is as if all men a painted with the same brush
after reports of child abuse and sexual molestation by others. That's a
shame.

Certainly, you should know well any person in whom you entrust the care
of your child.

On the other hand, as a male, I cannot afford any false accusations of
child abuse or of sexual molestation. I would refuse to look after any
child unless there were constant presence of unrelated, trustworthy
women as witnesses.

What a shame that is!

Bill Fischer

> Today one of my children's friends mothers criticized me for allowing my girl
> children to be babysitted by a male. I have known him before the kids were born
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>
> PS-  Steve dont answer.  I dont want to hear your crappy ignorant advice.  
Ironfist5687 - 28 Jun 2004 01:50 GMT
>Of recent years, it seems to me, our US culture--or maybe it's just
>Southern California--has become more prudish and has also become more
>suspicious of men. It is as if all men a painted with the same brush
>after reports of child abuse and sexual molestation by others. That's a
>shame.

Yes this is true all around the nation.  Males are guilty until proven
innoncent in many cases.  One reason for this change, is because of the massive
horror stories that are features on AMW and the news everyweek.  Most of these
child molestings, and female rapings and killings are committed by men.  

>Certainly, you should know well any person in whom you entrust the care
>of your child.

Definately.  Never trust a stranger.  

>On the other hand, as a male, I cannot afford any false accusations of
>child abuse or of sexual molestation. I would refuse to look after any
>child unless there were constant presence of unrelated, trustworthy
>women as witnesses.
>
>What a shame that is!

False accusations are almost as damaging to ones career and reputation as a
real accusation!!

Its nearly impossible to find a job anywhere when one is falsely accused of
such a crime.  

Thanks for your tips.

Kurt
R. Steve Walz - 28 Jun 2004 05:12 GMT
> >Of recent years, it seems to me, our US culture--or maybe it's just
> >Southern California--has become more prudish and has also become more
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> horror stories that are features on AMW and the news everyweek.  Most of these
> child molestings, and female rapings and killings are committed by men.
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Sure, but many more per capita were committed in the past than now.
And nobody knows it because those who might tell them are afraid to
be taken for a molestor themselves!

Actually, abduction murders or tortures of children are quite rare,
like getting struck by lightining, and what is called "molestation"
is usually by relatives or other children not too far from their own
age, and most of what is called that is by pubescents and other kids
who are near-pubescents experimenting consensually with older kids
or teens, and then they are caught at it and the younger kid is abused
shamed and harangued by adult authortiarians into blaming the older
partner for their own desired sexual contact! The current level of
sexual demonology in US culture is bordering on an insanity, and these
same things used to be called "kids fooling around", or "dating" not
"molesation". Did you know that fully 35% of people found on sexual
offender regisration lists are teens who were playing sexually but
consensually with kids only a few years younger than they were!!! And
50% are relatives of their supposed victim whom the child refused to
blame for anything even when given the chance!


> >Certainly, you should know well any person in whom you entrust the care
> >of your child.
>
> Definately.  Never trust a stranger.
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Most supposed "molestors" are babysitters who are trusted and are
relatives or family friends near the age of their charges!! And what
is called "molestation" is normal sexual experimentation and home
sexual education!


> >On the other hand, as a male, I cannot afford any false accusations of
> >child abuse or of sexual molestation. I would refuse to look after any
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> False accusations are almost as damaging to ones career and reputation as a
> real accusation!!
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Witchhunts!! The secret motives behind the Salem witchhunt was the
desire to steal another family's property! I wonder what is actually
behind one this big this time!?? I'll bet it has something to do
with control of slaves and misdirecting people's attention so they
don't get interested in what the money-boys are doing!!


> Its nearly impossible to find a job anywhere when one is falsely accused of
> such a crime.
> Thanks for your tips.
> Kurt
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This culture needs a good f.ck. It needs ten billion alien warriors
to come down and make everyone take off their clothes and f.ck for a
while, then they might get over it given a few months of that.
Steve
Sue Larson - 28 Jun 2004 13:08 GMT
> Most supposed "molestors" are babysitters who are trusted and are
> relatives or family friends near the age of their charges!! And what
> is called "molestation" is normal sexual experimentation and home
> sexual education!

This is a given IF both parties agree to it. However, if it is bothersome,
intrusive, forced upon, coerced upon from one party to the other for any
reason, then it absolutely is "molestation." I believe that is why sexual
experimentation is called sexual experimentation and molestation is called
molestation. Lots, if not most people sexually experiment with each other
but are, as you say, so brainwashed that they'd never admit it to anyone
else but their partner(s), but it continues, if even secretly. Molestation
is something that is absolutely unwanted.

Susan

> > >Of recent years, it seems to me, our US culture--or maybe it's just
> > >Southern California--has become more prudish and has also become more
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> while, then they might get over it given a few months of that.
> Steve
R. Steve Walz - 29 Jun 2004 05:25 GMT
> > Most supposed "molestors" are babysitters who are trusted and are
> > relatives or family friends near the age of their charges!! And what
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> intrusive, forced upon, coerced upon from one party to the other for any
> reason, then it absolutely is "molestation."
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I totally agree!
I even say the rule should be that the younger person must approach
you, and they end it the moment THEY want, if you don't first.

> I believe that is why sexual
> experimentation is called sexual experimentation and molestation is called
> molestation.
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Except that now, in the smelly last half of the 20th, it became
a witchhunt again, and with the Xtian lunacy thrashing like the
dying animal it is, the law migrated from leaving kids to play
to punishing their partners, even if they had to threaten the kids
to get testimony.

> Lots, if not most people sexually experiment with each other
> but are, as you say, so brainwashed that they'd never admit it to anyone
> else but their partner(s), but it continues, if even secretly.
---------------------
Often not even their partners!

> Molestation
> is something that is absolutely unwanted.
>
> Susan
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Absolutely! It is assault!
Steve

> > > >Of recent years, it seems to me, our US culture--or maybe it's just
> > > >Southern California--has become more prudish and has also become more
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> > while, then they might get over it given a few months of that.
> > Steve
Bill Fischer - 11 Jul 2004 05:20 GMT
False accusations are a stink that won't wash out.

> False accusations are almost as damaging to ones career and reputation as a
> real accusation!!
R. Steve Walz - 27 Jun 2004 23:04 GMT
> Today one of my children's friends mothers criticized me for allowing my girl
> children to be babysitted by a male. I have known him before the kids were born
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> because either are only male?
> Kurt
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Puritans are such a hoot, they should all be gang-raped on their
knees on a big soft pillow with lots of lube as a social good till
they cum their f.cking socks off over and over and scream for
forgiveness and figure out God is giggling.

Women are brainwashed to see males as hot dangerous sex. At least
that way they know where to find it, but it's pitiful when women's
proper name is actually HOT FLAMING PUSSY SEX, and they don't even
know it because they are brainwashed. Or maybe that's why they are
so afraid, they're afraid of themselves most of all!

Older males and their fathers and older brothers should be licking
every little girl who wants to so she'll REALLY know where to find
it, AND what it REALLY IS, which is just plain nice gooey hot fun!!


> PS-  Steve dont answer.  I dont want to hear your crappy ignorant advice.
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Eat sh.t and die.
Steve
 
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