Questions about impending miscarriage
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Dairy Godmother - 10 Nov 2007 15:06 GMT Hi group. I have a few questions that I wanted to put out there to anyone with experience, particularly since a lot of the answers I'm reading are from the mid-90's and I'd like to believe there's newer info. And I can't follow all the abbreviation jargon:-) So here is some background:
I'm 38, this was my first pregnancy. UNfortunately my pregnancy did not continue to develop past the 5th week or so - I went for the 8 week U/S and they saw a sac and a yolk sac but nothing else. They did not use a term like 'blighted ovum' but just said 'this is very common, likely a chromosomal problem.' Annoyingly they did not show me pictures so I could understand better (sorry I'm a little grouchy). If it matters, my hGc was at about 8,000 on Thursday, having fallen from 9300 Tuesday (this was our confirmation)
Overall, I'm not happy with the level of detail and thoroughness of my o/b and her office - but maybe this is so common they can't see filling my head with too many facts. I have these questions:
--some women in these boards talk about progesterone and miscarriage, and that they had their levels tested. I only heard about my HcG - no one ever mentioned progesterone. So I'm reading that low levels can affect lining quality. The reason this jumps out to me is that I noticed when I went off the pill this year that my periods are much lighter than they were even 5 years ago. So I've suspected its a sign of 'aging' and wonder if lighter periods are tied to lining quality and therefore progesterone levels. Does anyone out there have an understanding of this relationship?
-- my next question is about how long it takes for a miscarriage once you've started spotting (the spots are now a bit of a paste - sorry for the detail). I have an appointment for a D&C Friday, today is Saturday and now my hip joints are aching. I'm worried about an abrupt miscarriage during the workweek. Should I be shopping for a place that can do it asap? I know most women are different, but if anyone else had similar timing (5 weeks development but found out at 8 weeks) and can share I'd appreciate it.
-- Lastly I'm interested in getting every test possible, including genetic. I'm not a worrier, just a data junkie. I'm also goign to be 39 in Feb and insurance cuts off fertility treatment at 40, so I want to be armed with as much info as possible. IS this crazy? Can anyone recommend what tests would make sense right now, given that we had no trouble conceiving but it just didnt stick?
I'm realizing I sound like a person who is seeking control where there is none, and maybe this is just luck of nature. But I think more information is better, personally. Any help is greatfully appreciated.
Mary W. - 10 Nov 2007 15:55 GMT > Hi group. I have a few questions that I wanted to put out there to > anyone with experience, particularly since a lot of the answers I'm [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > grouchy). If it matters, my hGc was at about 8,000 on Thursday, > having fallen from 9300 Tuesday (this was our confirmation) I went through something very similar with my first pregnancy (7 years ago, though). I was 32.
> --some women in these boards talk about progesterone and miscarriage, > and that they had their levels tested. I only heard about my HcG - no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and therefore progesterone levels. Does anyone out there have an > understanding of this relationship? I jumped all over the progesterone thing too (although mine was measured with the first pregnancy and it was low, most likely due to the fact that the pregnancy wasn't going to happen rather than causing the miscarriage). Do you know what your luteal phase is? If you are charting and have a short luteal phase that can be a sign of low progesterone (I think). For my second pregnancy (which did result in my daughter) I had my progesterone checked as soon as I was pregnant and it was nice and high. I didn't do anything else.
> -- my next question is about how long it takes for a miscarriage once > you've started spotting (the spots are now a bit of a paste - sorry [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anyone else had similar timing (5 weeks development but found out at 8 > weeks) and can share I'd appreciate it. I did the D and C so I don't know. With me, the first ultrasound was at 7 wk and showed no heart beat. We followed it for about a week, my hCG started dropping, no baby developed. And we opted for the D and C rather than waiting for it to happen. I did start spotting the day of the D and C (I was probably about 9 weeks) but don't know how long the miscarriage would have taken.
> -- Lastly I'm interested in getting every test possible, including > genetic. I'm not a worrier, just a data junkie. I'm also goign to be > 39 in Feb and insurance cuts off fertility treatment at 40, so I want > to be armed with as much info as possible. IS this crazy? Can anyone > recommend what tests would make sense right now, given that we had no > trouble conceiving but it just didnt stick? You should probably be charting (get Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschle). See what your luteal phase is. Time sex well. If you don't get pregnant in 6 months you should probably start looking into fertility issues given your age, but with one miscarriage they probably wont do anything. Miscarriages are pretty common. Two miscarriages and they start taking notice.
Once pregnant, you can get your hCG followed and insist on checking your progesterone. If it's low, you can supplement. I think some doctors don't think it works but as far as I know it likely wouldn't do any harm and might help.
My second pregnancy I was a bit like you, really wanting as much information as possible (they did not offer genetic testing). So I insisted on the progesterone level check and serial hCG's. Everything was perfect.
Good luck to you!
Mary W.
Jamie Clark - 10 Nov 2007 16:37 GMT > Hi group. I have a few questions that I wanted to put out there to > anyone with experience, particularly since a lot of the answers I'm > reading are from the mid-90's and I'd like to believe there's newer > info. And I can't follow all the abbreviation jargon:-) So here is > some background: First of all, I'm so sorry for your loss. It really sucks, and is heartbreaking. I've experienced at least 9 losses, 2 at the timeframe you are dealing with, and went through 5 years of infertilty treatment, so I'll tell you what I know.
I'm not sure that there is much new information. A large percentage of pregnancies fail, and there isn't much that anyone can do to stop a large number of those. We may be able to help you with the abbreviation jargon, so feel free to ask.
> I'm 38, this was my first pregnancy. UNfortunately my pregnancy did > not continue to develop past the 5th week or so - I went for the 8 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > grouchy). If it matters, my hGc was at about 8,000 on Thursday, > having fallen from 9300 Tuesday (this was our confirmation) I'm not sure what kind of pictures you were wanting to see. The u/s? Whether they used the term "blighted ovum" or not, that's what you had. But most people don't know that term, the term they know is miscarriage, and that's enough information for most people. A blighted ovum could be caused by a chromosomal issue, and being that you are 38, it could be older eggs, which sort of amounts to the same thing, I think. I had 2 blighted ovums, both involved an u/s at 6.5 to 7 weeks, and both saw no heartbeat. We waited a week for another u/s, still no heartbeat, and pregnancy was determined to be non-viable. The first one one we had a D&C for at 8 weeks, and the second one I waited to miscarry naturally, and that happened at 10 weeks. I also had 5 chemical pregnancies -- that's where the pregnancy ends so early that it hasn't been diagnosed/verified via u/s, only chemical means such as hpt or beta hcg test. In my chemical pregnancies, I would find out I was pregnant at 4 weeks because we were doing fertility treatments. My hpt would be very very faint, or my beta would be very very low, and a repeat beta 2 days later would not have risen appropriately, and would be over by 5 weeks. Most people would have had no idea that they were pregnant at all, and likely have just had a slightly "late" period.
> Overall, I'm not happy with the level of detail and thoroughness of my > o/b and her office - but maybe this is so common they can't see > filling my head with too many facts. I have these questions: It is common, but they should have answered your questions in enough detail to make you feel heard. If you didn't have the questions at the time of your appointment, and only have them now after doing some research, then perhaps you can make an appointment with your doctor to go over the pregnancy and miscarraige, and discuss what went wrong, if there was anything you could have done to prevent it, and if they have any specific recommendations for your next attempt.
> --some women in these boards talk about progesterone and miscarriage, > and that they had their levels tested. I only heard about my HcG - no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and therefore progesterone levels. Does anyone out there have an > understanding of this relationship? OB's do not normally test for progesterone levels. An OB's main purpose is to manage your pregnancy and delivery, not assist you in acheiving a pregnancy. OB's usually tell you to come in around 8-10 weeks, probably so that any early miscarraiges will have already happened. Something like 25% of all pregnancies miscarry in the first few weeks, so it's very common and not something that can be prevented. While OB's can and do run various diagnostic tests, and can and do prescribe some fertility meds such as progesterone support or Clomid, they usually don't monitor the patient as closely as they ought to.
A Reproductive Endocrinologist (RE) is someone whose main purpose is to GET you pregnant, and once they achieve that goal, they hand you off to your regular OB. An RE will do all sorts of diagnostic tests in much more depth than an OB, and can prescribe many more meds to assist in acheiving pregnancy. Progesterone, estrogen, lupron, various vertility meds, etc. An RE will monitor things like progesterone and recommend progesterone support if they feel that it will benefit you.
Now, in regards to your question about light periods -- yes, a light period can be indicative of a thinner lining, but it really depends on how much lighter your periods have gotten. For example, if your periods used to be 7 days of very heavy bleeding, and now are 5 days of heavy bleeding surrounded by a day of spotting, while that is lighter for you, its still likely just fine to sustain a pregnancy. If your period used to be 5 days of bleeding and spotting, and is now only 3 days of spotting, then yes, I would say that you are likely having lining issues.
What makes your lining thick and yummy is estrogen (among other things), not progesterone. The progesterone only comes in after you ovulate, and if pregnancy is acheived, it tells your body NOT to shed the uterine lining because someone is trying to burrow in. Low progesterone can lead to miscarriage, but there is a bit of a "chicken or egg" aspect to it. Is the pregnancy failing because of low progesterone, or is the progesterone low because the pregnancy is failing. If a pregnancy is going to fail, adding more progesterone is not going to make it work out. All it's going to do is delay the actual shedding of the lining, the physical bleeding aspect of the miscarriage. The embryonic development will still stop, even if you are pumping progesterone into your body, if the pregnancy is not viable. But many OB's and RE's routinely prescribe progesterone support, just in case. It's simple and easy, so often worth asking about.
> -- my next question is about how long it takes for a miscarriage once > you've started spotting (the spots are now a bit of a paste - sorry [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anyone else had similar timing (5 weeks development but found out at 8 > weeks) and can share I'd appreciate it. I think every miscarriage is different. For the blighted ovum that I miscarried naturally, we found out at 7 weeks and confirmed at 8 weeks that the pregnancy was not viable. I carried it for 2 more weeks until about 10.5 weeks, when I began to bleed in the middle of the night. I had about 8 hours of VERY heavy bleeding but not a lot of pain, and then it was over, and I spotted for the next few days. That sort of suprised me, as I figured if it took 5 days to have my period, it ought to take at least that long to miscarry.
It's hard to know how long it may take for your body to realize what is happening and start to take care of it on it's own. It would depend on how fast your hcg levels are dropping. I'm sort of suprised that your OB didn't recommend that you have the D&C sooner, only because in both of my blighted ovums, they asked me if I wanted it done within the next few days. Is the joint pain in your hip normal for you? Do you get that during your periods? If so, it might be cramps/contractions, in which case you may well miscarry sooner than Friday. It's hard to know.
> -- Lastly I'm interested in getting every test possible, including > genetic. I'm not a worrier, just a data junkie. I'm also goign to be > 39 in Feb and insurance cuts off fertility treatment at 40, so I want > to be armed with as much info as possible. IS this crazy? Can anyone > recommend what tests would make sense right now, given that we had no > trouble conceiving but it just didnt stick? If you conceived very quickly, then this loss was most likely caused by old eggs. Remember that statistic I mentioned earlier, that 25% of all pregnancies don't work out. As you age, that statistic rises, because your eggs are less likely to be as strong and viable as necessary to make a healthy pregnancy. There may well be no reason to have any additional tests done. It's like if your kitchen sink is leaking, so you fix the sink, but then decide that you better have entire plumbing system and sewer line checked as well, just in case. The obvious reason for the leaky sink was an old washer, so no need to go looking for trouble. A single miscarriage at your age does not a genetic issue make. Does that make sense?
Due to your age alone, you could reasonably stop seeing your OB for treatment and move on to an RE. They would likely run a variety of tests as a standard work up, so you'd have a good pile of information at hand. If your insurance does not cover RE's, then you may want to try again for a few months, say, 3-4, and see what happens. You might well conceive again quickly.
> I'm realizing I sound like a person who is seeking control where there > is none, and maybe this is just luck of nature. But I think more > information is better, personally. Any help is greatfully appreciated. I think you do sound like you are trying to fashion some control out of a situation where there is none, and that's normal. I'm the same way. I'm way into information. I like to know what is going on as much as I can. But the fact of the matter is so much of this is still "magic." It's a miracle if the sperm gets up to the egg, and if the egg pops at just the right time, and is healthy, and if the sperm fertilizes the egg, and the fallopian tubes are open, and if the embryo can burrow into the lining,and if the ovaries send out the right signals to the brain to start producing progesterone, etc. If all those things happen in just the right way, AND the planets are aligned, then you might get that next miracle -- the tiny little cluster of cells suddenly begins to beat, and voila, you have a embryo with a heartbeat. Miracle of miracles. When you think about it like that, it's amazing that anyone gets pregnant at all, much less goes to term.
I hope this helped. Thinking of you and sending you healing vibes, both physically and emotionally.
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Dairy Godmother - 11 Nov 2007 00:28 GMT Thank you both so much for the thoughtful responses. They help a LOT. I'm going to try to get them to bump up my D&C - they just were a busy office in Columbia Medical center. I'd personally be happy to drop by a planned parenthood. Anyway, you guys rock.
Jamie Clark - 11 Nov 2007 04:35 GMT Although I've never been to a Planned Parenthood for a D&C, I'd do the hospital, if at all possible. I think the level of care is going to be different, and most importantly, the ambiance. In general, people having a D&C at PP are getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy, where as you are losing a much wanted pregnancy. Just a different vibe, both for you, for the women around you, and for the nurses taking care of you. Go to the hospital.
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> Thank you both so much for the thoughtful responses. They help a > LOT. I'm going to try to get them to bump up my D&C - they just were > a busy office in Columbia Medical center. I'd personally be happy to > drop by a planned parenthood. Anyway, you guys rock. Dairy Godmother - 11 Nov 2007 22:18 GMT Good point about the vibes. I guess I'm just getting nervous and want it over with. I"m scheduled for Columbia med center friday, but I dont think I"m going to make it.. spotting is now the start of a "period" and it Sunday night. Hmmm... I wonder if one should do a follow up d&c just to make sure its 100% done?
Jamie Clark - 12 Nov 2007 03:53 GMT If you are starting to spot, it's very likely that you won't make it to Friday. I did not have a follow up D&C, and wouldn't want one just in case. I wasn't in a place where I had a doctor nearby to go in and ask for an u/s afterwards to make sure all of the tissue had passed. But, it felt like everything gushed out of me all during that night, and then barely spotting. I had no fever, no aches or cramps, and felt confident that it had all passed normally. If you have any fever at all after you seem to be done miscarrying, then I would call your doctor for a check up and see if they can do an u/s to see if you have any retained tissue. But personally speaking I wouldn't have a D&C unless necessary.
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> Good point about the vibes. I guess I'm just getting nervous and want > it over with. I"m scheduled for Columbia med center friday, but I dont > think I"m going to make it.. spotting is now the start of a "period" > and it Sunday night. Hmmm... I wonder if one should do a follow up > d&c just to make sure its 100% done? Pologirl - 12 Nov 2007 04:19 GMT > I wouldn't have a D&C unless necessary. I wouldn't either. Letting the MC come was, in a strange way, affirming. It was my body doing its job as it should, and when the MC was done, it was all done. There was no medical need for a further procedure and I had no emotional need for one.
The OP's OB practice sounds rather unsatisfactory. I got a lot of guidance about what to expect, signs of trouble to watch out for, and my midwife gave me her cell phone number and permission to call her at any time, for any reason.
It does sound like the MC is underway now. I approve of the glass of wine, and plenty of hugs too.
Pologirl
Dairy Godmother - 17 Nov 2007 22:53 GMT Well, FWIW, I went ahead and had the D&C (if that is what it was - I thought D&C's removed a lot more). As I mentioned, I was not counseled to the options hardly at all by my original OB/gyn. What was new-news to me is that at the D&C, they only removed the sac. So I basically still get to bleed out the lining myself (super neat). So I guess all I did was spare myself the tissue passing? I dont really know. The one silverish lining was my experience with the Dr. and assistant who did the D&C (my OB/Gyn said I shouldnt bother having it be her, as I would have to be admitted to the hospital and that was 'overkill' - so she referred me down the hall) were two of the loveliest women and total pros, very sympathetic and thorough to every question, explained carefully the answers to all the questions I originally asked of this group. How light periods dont cause miscarriages (and why), how all the parts work in what order in this process, what pain to expect and how to judge a problem. At the end she even gave me a hug. It really reaffirmed that if/when I'm blessed with a new start I will definitely look for specific things in a doctor.
If this thread ends now, warmed wishes to all who answered me. Where support appeared (and did not) in this process really taught me a thing or two about patience, friendship, and control. Best to all.
Anne Rogers - 18 Nov 2007 00:38 GMT > Well, FWIW, I went ahead and had the D&C (if that is what it was - I > thought D&C's removed a lot more). As I mentioned, I was not > counseled to the options hardly at all by my original OB/gyn. What > was new-news to me is that at the D&C, they only removed the sac. So > I basically still get to bleed out the lining myself (super neat). So > I guess all I did was spare myself the tissue passing? I have two guesses here, one is that they did remove as much as it usual, just the explaination was confusing, the other is that they didn't in an effort to minimise some of the negatives of a full d&c, which I understand are not at the time of the d&c itself, but for any future babies, there is a known risk of placenta problems and possibly some other things. Finally, it's possible they did a suction procedure, where they just suck out what they can, rather than d&c, where the c is for cuterage and once they've opened the cervix, they go in and scrape things out - I think you do get bleeding after this as well. Anyway, I do hope it's all over soon for you.
Cheers Anne
Dairy Godmother - 18 Nov 2007 18:57 GMT > I have two guesses here, one is that they did remove as much as it > usual, just the explaination was confusing, the other is that they [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Cheers > Anne Thanks, Anne. I think you described it very well -- they definitely did a suction procedure (non-powered though, turkey baster comes to mind since its that week) and she did say something about not wanting to hurt the walls of the uterus be touching them. Maybe that's an update to how they used to do it. Seems reasonable.
Its interesting (when I remove myself a bit) to think about what doctors are up against with patients who come in full of internet/ newsgroup information (right or wrong) and how that must change the dialogue and expectations. Just a ponderance.
:0) Pologirl - 18 Nov 2007 15:13 GMT I am glad you found a more empathetic caregiver. Does this person deliver babies??? You (we all) need to appreciate that some OBs are wonderful surgeons, the kind you hope are on call if ever you need an emergency C section, but they communicate poorly with patients and have little interest in nor time for the routine care of primiparas in normal pregnancies. A 1st trimester MC is pretty routine, despite being new and shocking to us.
> If this thread ends now, warmed wishes to all who answered me. You're wecome!
> Where support appeared (and did not) in this process really taught me a > thing or two about patience, friendship, and control. You have passed through a certain veil into the unknown, as far as many others are concerned. Many friends and family are not able or do not want to go there, even to help you. That does not make them necessarily bad people. For some, it merely is a sign of their immaturity. Some friendships you may wish to let fall away, but try to be as patient with others as you wish others had been with you.
I assure you many readers in this newsgroup deliberately have not read this thread. Before my own MC loomed on my horizon, I was one of them. I am older and wiser now, and now I can read such threads without emotional distress where just a few years ago it would have been quite beyond me.
Wishing you all the best baby vibes,
Pologirl
Dairy Godmother - 18 Nov 2007 19:02 GMT > You have passed through a certain veil into the unknown, as far as > many others are concerned. Many friends and family are not able or do > not want to go there, even to help you. That does not make them > necessarily bad people. For some, it merely is a sign of their > immaturity. Some friendships you may wish to let fall away, but try > to be as patient with others as you wish others had been with you. I think I'm over the worst and ready to move on -- the only lagging thing is latent anger at not feeling like the center of the universe to enough people. I think you are totally right, people have no clue. I guess I set some of this up myself - I only told a few people, and did so expecting them to be the support system in case something went wrong -- but I never told *them* that was their role! It's provoked a lot of thoughts about expectations, anger, etc that I think are for some other group (or maybe a therapist ;-) !!)
> Wishing you all the best baby vibes, > > Pologirl ;0) appreciated, accepted! my best back to you!
Anne Rogers - 11 Nov 2007 16:16 GMT > Thank you both so much for the thoughtful responses. They help a > LOT. I'm going to try to get them to bump up my D&C - they just were > a busy office in Columbia Medical center. I'd personally be happy to > drop by a planned parenthood. Anyway, you guys rock. I'm surprised that you weren't offered medical management - as in - drugs, were I was in the UK (I live in the US now, but have minimal experience of maternity stuff in my local area), if the baby was found to have passed, but the miscarriage hadn't started, you would be offered the option of doing nothing, taking drugs (not sure of the exact combo, but similar to those used for abortion at this stage of pregnanct), then surgical management. I think there was only one day scheduled in theatre for elective d&cs and there are practical reasons for that, it allows them to use a main theatre not an obstetric theatre, it allows terminations to be kept away from losses etc. Problem is, during the time gap, women do need adequate support to know when things have changed from something straightforward to an emergency (I know two people who've had significant hemorages following a miscarriage, they may not have been preventable, but once they had happened, they could definitely have been handled better and at least one of their lives was at risk due to the poor handling).
Until recently I'd thought things were mostly much "better" in the US, at least that the d&c option was always available and if you chose it, you didn't seem to have to wait until is was surgery day. But in a couple of lists I'm on, there has been recent cases where the doctor has put of d&c for several weeks. There is more an more evidence coming out suggesting that d&cs do have an impact on placental problems in subsequent pregnancies, which is a reason to not offer it as the first choice management without other indications, but not to make women suffer the way I've seen a couple have to recently.
Cheers Anne
Dairy Godmother - 11 Nov 2007 22:14 GMT I think here its hit and miss. Your basic standard of care is severely (IMHO) compromised in the past 15 years or so due to increasing demands of managed care profit goals (total commentary on my part - a little off topic). So you get your doctor for 7 minutes and they are onto the next person. I was not offered anything in terms of self-managing options other than "go home and wait to hemmorage" - really, she said pretty much that. I think what struck me is not only that my questions werent thoroughly addressed, but that *I* was not asked anything. Not about spotting, not about my occupation/commute/ or lifestyle for the next week. I guess I'm way over-expecting what they would talk to me about. I'll chalk it up to the continuing hormones ;-)
Pologirl - 11 Nov 2007 14:07 GMT Sorry that you're going through this.
If the MC does start during the work week, can't you call in or go home sick? Mine, at 12 weeks, was not much messier nor more painful than a really bad period.
You can get karyotyping done (to check that all chromosomes are present and not scrambled or broken). I too like to have all information, but I chose to skip this, as it would have cost about $1000 and there was doubt whether my insurance would have covered it. I doubt karyotyping would help you in any way with future pregnancies, unless there is some important information about you that you have not mentioned. Most major chromosomal errors are accidents of chance. The chance does increase with age, but having a history of one MC affects your chances at most only slightly. BTDT
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Jamie Clark - 11 Nov 2007 17:12 GMT > Sorry that you're going through this. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The chance does increase with age, but having a history of one MC > affects your chances at most only slightly. BTDT To the original poster, That reminds me -- after several miscarriages, we had some chromosomal testing done on dh and I, and they all came back normal. I have never been able to carry a pregnancy to term, but clearly it had nothing to do with chromosomes. In our case, it had to do with immunity issues -- my body sees the fast growing embryo as cancer and kills it off.
Many times we quest for answers and don't find any, which can just lead to more questing. Sometimes it is just (sucky) luck of the draw. Rather than spend time, energy and money on trying to find a reason for a single miscarriage, I'd go ahead and ttc again. Chances are that your next pregnancy will be just fine.
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Dairy Godmother - 11 Nov 2007 22:08 GMT > To the original poster, > That reminds me -- after several miscarriages, we had some chromosomal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > pregnancy will be just fine. > -- You know, I feel a little "chicken little - the sky is falling" with regard to wanting my tests done. I dont think we have a gene issue in my gut, but I do worry about my shorter cycles and lighter periods that came on in the past few years. At 38, there are other things changing -- much to my surprise, I thought 45 would mean collagen slowing in the face, night trips to the bathroom, etc. I just have it in my head that my body wont cooperate with carrying to term. I may very well be out of my mind. There was just something so abrupt and urgent about reading that my health plan will not fund fertility treatement after 16 months from now, so I wanted to get in all the testing possible. I'm deeply humbled here by people who have had many more issues TTC and misscarrying than my one occurrence - so I'll try to keep perspective. Thanks again
Pologirl - 11 Nov 2007 17:33 GMT For what it's worth, I posted my own miscarriage (MC) story here on misc.kids.pregnancy back in 2005. Here it is in the Google Groups archive:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.pregnancy/browse_frm/thread/2c009b44244 1f4f7/955213befe49f0ae?lnk=st&q=#955213befe49f0ae
As advised on the original subject line, the story is indeed Too Much Information (TMI). I am not sorry I wrote the story, because before my MC I wanted to know what to expect and I could find no helpful information. I wrote it for the future, for others like me. Perhaps for you, Dairy Godmother.
I see I wrote that the MC happened 1 week after the US where the pregnancy was found to be doomed. How strange... Checked my records. Yup, I really did wait a month (!) for that MC.
Pologirl
Dairy Godmother - 11 Nov 2007 22:03 GMT > For what it's worth, I posted my own miscarriage (MC) story here on > misc.kids.pregnancy back in 2005. Here it is in the Google Groups > archive: You know, it took a lot for you to post the details, but so helpful to others that you did. I'm so sorry that happened. How horrifying. We as women have to be strong and in control and 'deal with it' and yet aaarrrggghhhh what a horrendous thing. I am still uncertain if my expectations of my caregivers are too high, with so many women and so many different experiences, what could they prepare me for? I guess I just wanted things to watch out for. Like, should I have pain medication on hand? When is there a problem? If it happens should I come for the D&C or wait? They just said nothing, and I was pretty dumbstruck to have smart questions. So I mined the boards here for insights, and I'm left to make up my own plan, which for now means dont go far from home, pack a change of clothes, pads, Ibuprofen, and have alcohol nearby if I dont have to drive (nothing seems to soothe my uterus like red wine).
Thanks to all once again.
Pologirl - 11 Nov 2007 14:15 GMT > Overall, I'm not happy with the level of detail and thoroughness of my > o/b and her office This is a common complaint of women who see Ob/Gyn physicians. You might be happier seeing a practice that includes Certified Nurse Midwives. They are trained nurses who have additional training in midwifery, who work in conjunction with MDs.
> recommend what tests would make sense right now, given that we had no > trouble conceiving but it just didnt stick? Just focus on trying again.
Pologirl
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