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Nobody wants our cord blood? (Houston)

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Zen Cohen - 27 Oct 2004 21:17 GMT
Hi, we decided we want to donate (not bank) our cord blood.  Problem is that
I've called a coupla local places and nobody's called back, and our OB,
though he supports the idea of donating it, doesn't know who takes it as a
donation.  Does anyone know of anyone in the Houston area who wants and will
come and collect donated cord blood? I had thought this was pretty precious.
Thanks.
Pip - 27 Oct 2004 22:13 GMT
Is it to do with some kind of law relating to cord blood and it's use?  I
know that here in N.Z you can store your babies blood but it can only be
used to the baby from which it came from.  So I take that to mean you could
not donate it.  I think cord blood donation is a FANTASTIC idea! and I would
do it if I was able.

Best wishes
Pip

> Hi, we decided we want to donate (not bank) our cord blood.  Problem is that
> I've called a coupla local places and nobody's called back, and our OB,
> though he supports the idea of donating it, doesn't know who takes it as a
> donation.  Does anyone know of anyone in the Houston area who wants and will
> come and collect donated cord blood? I had thought this was pretty precious.
> Thanks.
Donna Metler - 28 Oct 2004 00:26 GMT
There seems to be a real limit on public cord blood banks. We have St.
Jude's Children's research hospital here in Memphis, and I would have
thought that if ANYONE would have a cord blood bank, they would since it can
be used in lieu of bone marrow transplants for kids with leukemia, but it
looks like the closest is St. Louis-and I'm not going to be delivering in a
hospital 8 hours away from home!

Now, if I want to pay someone to bank it, well, that's no trouble-I just
can't donate it. I hate to let them just throw it away, but I also can't see
spending thousands of dollars to store it with no familal history of any of
the conditions where it could be used.
Mamma Mia - 28 Oct 2004 00:56 GMT
i think the main prob is the funding to run this sort of donation program -
they need to be collected quickly and stored, i guess the expense is huge.

i wouldnt think there would be many people that would not donate if asked
and it was easy and no cost?

christine
> Hi, we decided we want to donate (not bank) our cord blood.  Problem is
> that I've called a coupla local places and nobody's called back, and our
> OB, though he supports the idea of donating it, doesn't know who takes it
> as a donation.  Does anyone know of anyone in the Houston area who wants
> and will come and collect donated cord blood? I had thought this was
> pretty precious. Thanks.
Naysando - 28 Oct 2004 01:56 GMT
> Hi, we decided we want to donate (not bank) our cord blood.

I just read that Illinois just passed a law for health care workers to offer
to publicly bank cord blood to all women who have just given birth.
the article was in parents magazine.
they were urging others to contact their local congressmen to pass the law
in more states....

public banking can happen if the lawmakers are forced to offer it!

renee
zolw - 28 Oct 2004 05:15 GMT
Hi

We also wanted to donate our cord, but our doctor explained that the
federal funding of stem cell research has been withdrawn & thus no one
accepts donations. Storing & maintaining the cord is too expensive for
any organization without federal funding.

Unfortunately. I will never understand how a country where state &
church are seperate is so influenced by the church. It is very
unfortunate! I keep thinking of how much could be done with just a few
cords.

> Hi, we decided we want to donate (not bank) our cord blood.  Problem is that
> I've called a coupla local places and nobody's called back, and our OB,
> though he supports the idea of donating it, doesn't know who takes it as a
> donation.  Does anyone know of anyone in the Houston area who wants and will
> come and collect donated cord blood? I had thought this was pretty precious.
> Thanks.
Emily - 28 Oct 2004 05:56 GMT
> Hi
>
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> unfortunate! I keep thinking of how much could be done with just a few
> cords.

Yikes!  I hadn't heard that connection.  What is even the logic
from within that fundamentalist mind-set that leads to
cord blood being a bad thing to do research on?

Emily
Donna Metler - 28 Oct 2004 14:32 GMT
> > Hi
> >
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> from within that fundamentalist mind-set that leads to
> cord blood being a bad thing to do research on?

I can see it-as I understand it, the ban was on funding any research except
on the 22 existing stem cell lines, regardless of the genesis of the cells.
While most of the controversy has come over using embryonic tissue (which
ties into abortion objections), I can see where it is affecting cord blood
as well.

Which is really sad, because I think most parents WOULD be more than willing
to donate their baby's cord blood for public use if they don't want to pay
to privately bank it, provided things like early clamping is avoided, since
once the cord is cut, it is of no further use to the baby, and won't hurt to
donate it.

> Emily
Ericka Kammerer - 28 Oct 2004 19:56 GMT
> Hi
>
> We also wanted to donate our cord, but our doctor explained that the
> federal funding of stem cell research has been withdrawn & thus no one
> accepts donations. Storing & maintaining the cord is too expensive for
> any organization without federal funding.

    Your doctor is almost certainly misinformed.  Yes, there is a
funding problem, but it has nothing to do with the ban on federal
funding for embryonic stem cell research outside of the approved
lines.  For one thing, publicly banked cord blood is typically
NOT used for research anyway.  There are *very* *very* few banks
that provide cord blood for research, and they tell customers
specifically that their cord blood will (or may) be used for research,
not banked for a recipient's use someday.
    The problem is simply that it costs money to harvest,
process, and store cord blood donations.  Since the donors
aren't paying the money, *someone* has to.  There's a pretty
short list of public banks, and they mostly accept donations from
a limited geographical area (typically only from hospitals where
they have staff on hand).  There just isn't a public bank
near Houston.  The only public bank in Texas is in San Antonio,
and it only accepts donations from local hospitals.  There is
only one bank that accepts cord blood donations from anywhere,
anytime (http://www.cryo-intl.com/cordblooddonation.html) but
you have to have all your paperwork in by the 35th week (some
of their cord blood does to go research as opposed to being
banked for future treatment).  The Red Cross does some cord
blood banking, but their budget for cord blood banking was
slashed something like 75 percent last year.

Best wishes,
Ericka
Zen Cohen - 28 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
>> Hi
>>
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> blood banking, but their budget for cord blood banking was
> slashed something like 75 percent last year.

Thanks for this informative response and to all others who responded. I
called the number at the link above and they confirmed the cutoff is at the
35th week.  Since we missed that, looks like we won't be donating.
Donna Metler - 28 Oct 2004 21:36 GMT
> >> Hi
> >>
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> called the number at the link above and they confirmed the cutoff is at the
> 35th week.  Since we missed that, looks like we won't be donating.

Thanks also for the information-I'm going to contact them as well, and see
if I am considered acceptable or not (It wouldn't surprise me to be denied
given my medical history and complications).
zolw - 29 Oct 2004 06:37 GMT
I was talking about donating the cord, not banking it.

>> Hi
>>
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> Best wishes,
> Ericka
Hillary Israeli - 29 Oct 2004 13:30 GMT
*I was talking about donating the cord, not banking it.
*

But the public bank is the place that accepts the donation. Unless you had
some other idea. What were you thinking - you could donate it to an
individual human being?

*Ericka Kammerer wrote:
*
*>
*>> Hi
*>>
*>> We also wanted to donate our cord, but our doctor explained that the
*>> federal funding of stem cell research has been withdrawn & thus no one
*>> accepts donations. Storing & maintaining the cord is too expensive for
*>> any organization without federal funding.
*>
*>
*>     Your doctor is almost certainly misinformed.  Yes, there is a
*> funding problem, but it has nothing to do with the ban on federal
*> funding for embryonic stem cell research outside of the approved
*> lines.  For one thing, publicly banked cord blood is typically
*> NOT used for research anyway.  There are *very* *very* few banks
*> that provide cord blood for research, and they tell customers
*> specifically that their cord blood will (or may) be used for research,
*> not banked for a recipient's use someday.
*>     The problem is simply that it costs money to harvest,
*> process, and store cord blood donations.  Since the donors
*> aren't paying the money, *someone* has to.  There's a pretty
*> short list of public banks, and they mostly accept donations from
*> a limited geographical area (typically only from hospitals where
*> they have staff on hand).  There just isn't a public bank
*> near Houston.  The only public bank in Texas is in San Antonio,
*> and it only accepts donations from local hospitals.  There is
*> only one bank that accepts cord blood donations from anywhere,
*> anytime (http://www.cryo-intl.com/cordblooddonation.html) but
*> you have to have all your paperwork in by the 35th week (some
*> of their cord blood does to go research as opposed to being
*> banked for future treatment).  The Red Cross does some cord
*> blood banking, but their budget for cord blood banking was
*> slashed something like 75 percent last year.
*>
*> Best wishes,
*> Ericka
*>

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             Hillary Israeli, VMD
             Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
                 too dark to read." --Groucho Marx

zolw - 29 Oct 2004 18:36 GMT
Well the public bank does not accept donations (at least where I live in
California).

> *I was talking about donating the cord, not banking it.
> *
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> *> Ericka
> *>
Ericka Kammerer - 29 Oct 2004 20:14 GMT
> Well the public bank does not accept donations (at least where I live in
> California).

    Doesn't accept donations from your hospital, or doesn't
accept donations at all?  If the former, that's common.  Most
public banks are very limited in where they'll accept donations
from.  If the latter, that's a contradiction in terms.  A public
cord blood bank is *defined* as one which accepts donations for
future use by unrelated recipients.  *Private* cord blood banks
are those where people can store cord blood for their own family's
use at some future date.  (And, of course, some institutions do
both public and private banking.)
    The National Marrow Donor Program has the largest group
of affiliated public cord blood banks.  On their website
(http://www.marrow.org/NMDP/cord_blood_bank_list.html) they
maintain lists of cord blood banks affiliated with the NMDP
as well as a list of public cord blood banks which are not
affiliated.  The two lists include the vast majority of
public cord blood banks available in the US.

Best wishes,
Ericka
Hillary Israeli - 30 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
*Well the public bank does not accept donations (at least where I live in
*California).

Well, that was kind of Ericka's point. It's expensive to store the stuff.

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             Hillary Israeli, VMD
             Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
                 too dark to read." --Groucho Marx

Ericka Kammerer - 29 Oct 2004 18:04 GMT
> I was talking about donating the cord, not banking it.

    When you donate, you donate to a public bank.  That's
what public banking *is*.  (Private banking is when you have
it stored for your own possible future use.)

Best wishes,
Ericka
Mary W. - 29 Oct 2004 00:32 GMT
> Hi
>
> We also wanted to donate our cord, but our doctor explained that the
> federal funding of stem cell research has been withdrawn & thus no one
> accepts donations. Storing & maintaining the cord is too expensive for
> any organization without federal funding.

There is federal funding for stem cell research. It is only
human embryonic stem cell research that is limited to specific
cell lines already in existence:
http://stemcells.nih.gov/research/registry/

You can go here:
http://crisp.cit.nih.gov/crisp/crisp_query.generate_screen

to search for current NIH awardees. It allows you to search by
subject. It's responding really slowly right now so I couldn't
see if there is any currently funded research on cord blood
stem cells. I bet there is though.

Here's the NIH FAQ on embryonic stem cell research:
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp

Oh, and look at this:
http://www.cordblood.org/public/insights/

It looks like the congress passed an umbilical cord banking
bill to provide funds for banking cord blood.

Mary
Mary W. - 29 Oct 2004 17:45 GMT
> > Hi
> >
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> see if there is any currently funded research on cord blood
> stem cells. I bet there is though.

Following up my own post: A search of this database using
stem and cell and cord and blood for the years 2002-2004
returns 265. The actual number of grants funded by the NIH
is less than that because multi year grants are reported
more than once, but there certainly is federally funded
research on cord blood stem cells.  I expect most researchers
that use human cord blood in their research are associated
with hospitals that deliver babies and directly approach
the mother to get consent and have mechanism in place at
that institution to harvest the cord blood.

Mary
 
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