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Time.com blog: info on safety of planned home births

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Cathy Weeks - 17 Jun 2005 21:00 GMT
http://time.blogs.com/daily_rx/

Planned Home Births See Less Medical Intervention

Women didn't always give birth in state-of-the-art hospitals, strapped
to fetal monitors and steps away from an operating room equipped to
handle any labor emergency. But a new study suggests that giving birth
the old-fashioned way, at home under the care of a midwife, may be just
as safe as having a baby in a hospital. And the birthing experience of
women who choose to deliver their babies at home may be less likely to
include such medical intervention as forceps, caesarean section and
epidurals.

In the largest international study of its kind, researchers in Canada
analyzed labor-and-delivery records of more than 5,000 planned home
births in the U.S. and Canada, comparing them to over three million
singleton, low-risk births at U.S. hospitals in 2000. More than 87% of
the women who delivered at home, with the help of trained midwives, did
not need to go to the hospital during labor or delivery. Among those
women, the incidence of medical interventions, including forceps,
epidural, and caesarean section, were lower than for the women giving
birth in hospitals. Only 9% of women delivering at home required help
stimulating labor, while 19% of women giving low-risk births at
hospitals needed this assistance. The researchers found an even larger
difference over the use of episiotomy, the widening of the vaginal
opening with scissors to ease the passage of the baby's head-33% of
hospital-delivering women underwent this procedure, while only 2% of
midwives used it in their home deliveries. The authors caution,
however, that home births aren't for everyone-but for women with
uncomplicated pregnancies who are expected to have a low-risk delivery,
many believe there's no place like home.

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Rebecca Jo - 17 Jun 2005 21:35 GMT
> http://time.blogs.com/daily_rx/
>
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> By Alice Park | Posted June 17, 2005 | Permalink | Back to Top

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2005/06/16/hscout526372.html

here's another article on the same study.

Rj
Unadulterated Me - 18 Jun 2005 00:24 GMT
> But a new study suggests that giving birth
> the old-fashioned way, at home under the care of a midwife, may be just
> as safe as having a baby in a hospital.

It's not 'new' news though, there have been plenty of studies over the
decades that show the same thing, all this one does is add to the ever
growing body of evidence that home birth is as safe, if not safer, than
hospital birth.

> And the birthing experience of
> women who choose to deliver their babies at home may be less likely to
> include such medical intervention as forceps, caesarean section and
> epidurals.

I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I don't
know anyone who has had a home c/section :-0

> In the largest international study of its kind, researchers in Canada
> analyzed labor-and-delivery records of more than 5,000 planned home
> births in the U.S. and Canada, comparing them to over three million
> singleton, low-risk births at U.S. hospitals in 2000.

Huh, 5000 to 3 million that doesn't sound like a balanced comparison of
samples.
At least the study found in favour of homebirth regardless of their poor
 sample though.

> More than 87% of
> the women who delivered at home, with the help of trained midwives, did
> not need to go to the hospital during labor or delivery.

That's pretty consistent with the WHO stats on the % of mothers who will
need assistance too.

Andrea
Ericka Kammerer - 18 Jun 2005 01:43 GMT
>> In the largest international study of its kind, researchers in Canada
>> analyzed labor-and-delivery records of more than 5,000 planned home
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> At least the study found in favour of homebirth regardless of their poor
>  sample though.

    Actually, you can read the study here:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/330/7505/1416

Their homebirth sample included all of the CPM attended births
during the study period, barring women who declined to participate
and midwives who dropped out or didn't maintain certification for
the study period.  It's sad that that represents so few births,
but there you have it.  I think it's *great* the study focused
on the safety of direct entry midwifery, as there are far more
studies in the US of certified nurse midwives, and those situations
are challenging to deal with given the degree of influence
physicians have over CNMs' practice and given the increasing
medicalization of CNMs in the US as a whole.  (There are still
some CNMs who are less medicalized, and those who do homebirths
tend to be on that end of the spectrum, but as a group they're
much more medicalized than the CPMs.)

Best wishes,
Ericka
Mum of Two - 18 Jun 2005 04:09 GMT
>> But a new study suggests that giving birth
>> the old-fashioned way, at home under the care of a midwife, may be just
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I don't
> know anyone who has had a home c/section :-0

Except for that brave woman about a year ago who took a swig of hard liquor
and sectioned herself with a kitchen knife, and was sewn back up by a local
nurse. I wouldn't think that's an everyday occurance though ;-)

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0404/07caesarean.html

It's an ongoing debate between DH and I as to whether she was braver than
the man who cut off his own hand.
Jenrose - 18 Jun 2005 06:18 GMT
>> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I don't
>> know anyone who has had a home c/section :-0
>
> Except for that brave woman about a year ago who took a swig of hard
> liquor and sectioned herself with a kitchen knife, and was sewn back up by
> a local nurse. I wouldn't think that's an everyday occurance though ;-)

That's our proof around this house that there's always someone more extreme
than me out there. :)

Jenrose
Mum of Two - 18 Jun 2005 08:36 GMT
>>> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I don't
>>> know anyone who has had a home c/section :-0
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> That's our proof around this house that there's always someone more
> extreme than me out there. :)

LOL!
I don't know if I could do it. If I really thought the baby would die
otherwise, perhaps. But I don't know if I'd be confident enough to know when
that critical point was. Even then, I'd want more than three drinks, after
which point I'd probably have no right to be wielding a knife.

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Jenrose - 21 Jun 2005 06:23 GMT
>>>> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I don't
>>>> know anyone who has had a home c/section :-0
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> when that critical point was. Even then, I'd want more than three drinks,
> after which point I'd probably have no right to be wielding a knife.

Quite honestly, I suspect I could if I had to. Thank god it should remain
completely academic as I'm never getting pg again by choice.
Jenrose
Mum of Two - 21 Jun 2005 08:10 GMT
>>>>> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I
>>>>> don't
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Quite honestly, I suspect I could if I had to. Thank god it should remain
> completely academic as I'm never getting pg again by choice.

If someone said to me, "Your baby will die if you don't do this" I would. I
guess the problem in this situation is that there is no-one else to make
that judgement call.
I don't really want to say that I could, lest some higher power decide to
test me.

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Jenrose - 22 Jun 2005 08:04 GMT
>>>>>> I presume they mean should the woman transfer, because umm like I
>>>>>> don't
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> I don't really want to say that I could, lest some higher power decide to
> test me.

It's somethign I *could* do... but wouldn't except in extremis.

Jenrose
Jo - 19 Jun 2005 11:05 GMT
> It's an ongoing debate between DH and I as to whether she was braver than
> the man who cut off his own hand.

That guy did it to save his own a.s, this woman did it to save her baby,
and risk killing herself - she wins, IMHO :)

Jo (RM)
Mum of Two - 19 Jun 2005 21:49 GMT
>> It's an ongoing debate between DH and I as to whether she was braver than
>> the man who cut off his own hand.
>
> That guy did it to save his own a.s, this woman did it to save her baby,
> and risk killing herself - she wins, IMHO :)

I think that's _why_ DH thinks the guy wins - lol!
She had to use a considerable amount of skill, while in what would have been
an immense amount of pain, to avoid cutting the baby as well.
I think DH thinks that because women have a higher pain threshold, the man's
feat was greater. Having watched DH with a cramp in his calf muscle, maybe
he's right. ;-)

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Jamie Clark - 29 Jun 2005 23:41 GMT
>>> It's an ongoing debate between DH and I as to whether she was braver
>>> than the man who cut off his own hand.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> man's feat was greater. Having watched DH with a cramp in his calf muscle,
> maybe he's right. ;-)

Well then of course, according to your dh's standards and rules, any time a
man has a cold, he "wins" out over any woman giving birth...   ; )

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Mum of Two - 30 Jun 2005 10:15 GMT
>>>> It's an ongoing debate between DH and I as to whether she was braver
>>>> than the man who cut off his own hand.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Well then of course, according to your dh's standards and rules, any time
> a man has a cold, he "wins" out over any woman giving birth...   ; )

You've got it in one ;-)

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Cathy Weeks - 18 Jun 2005 18:41 GMT
> > But a new study suggests that giving birth
> > the old-fashioned way, at home under the care of a midwife, may be just
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> growing body of evidence that home birth is as safe, if not safer, than
> hospital birth

Yeah, I had a home birth.  I just posted it as something of interest
that I was seeing in some mainstream media.

Cathy
Just Me - 20 Jun 2005 14:24 GMT
> > But a new study suggests that giving birth
> > the old-fashioned way, at home under the care of a midwife, may be just
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> growing body of evidence that home birth is as safe, if not safer, than
> hospital birth.

The remarkable thing about the study is that it was conducted on
Certified Professional Midwives, who are direct-entry midwives
(registered by the North American Registry of Midwives). These are the
same midwives that doctors always claim are not safe, and state
legislatures often refuse to license b/c they believe the doctors/med
societies.

In 2000 every CPM was required to participate, so that's another
remarkable aspect. Clients had the right to refuse to take part, but
very few did. Also, this was a prospective study, meaning that
questionaires were filled about at the beginning of each woman's
pregnancy (or when she began care), so there was no chance anyone would
try to hide a bad outcome. Ninety eight percent of the births occurred
in the U.S.

All in all, this is the best conducted American home birth study out
there.

You can read the study in its entirety at
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/330/7505/1416

Cheers!
Just Me

> > And the birthing experience of
> > women who choose to deliver their babies at home may be less likely to
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> At least the study found in favour of homebirth regardless of their poor
>   sample though.

This is the largest sample size possible for a prospective study in the
U.S., b/c a very small percentage of women choose home birth. This is
actually a very hefty sample size considering the circumstances. Birth
outcomes are measured per thousand.

You assessment of the sample size, is, well, just wrong.

> > More than 87% of
> > the women who delivered at home, with the help of trained midwives, did
> > not need to go to the hospital during labor or delivery.
>
> That's pretty consistent with the WHO stats on the % of mothers who will
> need assistance too.

Yep.

Cheers,
Just Me
 
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