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Caesarian Birth Plan?

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Grymma - 27 Jul 2005 17:05 GMT
OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up before
handing to us, we don't like slime, and hubby is pretty squeamish' and I'd
like to do skin to skin and try breastfeeding in recovery'. Oh, and 'please
prop me up after, in recovery, with a pillow under my knees as well, because
I feel kind of claustrophobic lying on my back (I always have done)'

As for anything else, I just can't think or don't know. I'm not used to
having a choice, lol! First c/s was 18 yrs ago, my first baby, became an
emergency c/s and the whole experience became one of things being done to
us, rather than with us. Second was 10 yrs ago, and although I felt more
involved, I didn't feel I had a say in anything. In recovery, for example,
baby was parked in a crib on the other side of the room from us - it never
occurred to either of us that we could get her!

Is it worth writing down as a proper birth plan, or should I just jot
thoughts down and tell them on admission? I've got three weeks until I see
the consultant, then I won't see her again until the actual birth day, a
couple of weeks after that...

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Elizabeth H Bonesteel - 27 Jul 2005 18:12 GMT
>OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
>emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up before
>handing to us, we don't like slime, and hubby is pretty squeamish' and I'd
>like to do skin to skin and try breastfeeding in recovery'. Oh, and 'please
>prop me up after, in recovery, with a pillow under my knees as well, because
>I feel kind of claustrophobic lying on my back (I always have done)'

Our birthing class gave us a birth plan worksheet that had a question on
cesareans, and I can tell you what I was able to think of:

   - I don't need a blow-by-blow of exactly what you're doing when (i.e.
     "We're making the incision now," etc.)
   - My husband stays with me AT ALL TIMES.
   - No general anaesthetic unless we're dealing with a real emergency
     (yes, I realize this was probably protocol; but I wanted to state it
     explicitly).
   - Baby stays with me as much as possible.

Your desires may be different, of course (I'm sure some people would have
loved to have every step of the surgery described); these were just the
things that concerned me.

Liz
mom to Emily (5/25/2004)
Circe - 27 Jul 2005 18:23 GMT
>>OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
>>emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> loved to have every step of the surgery described); these were just the
> things that concerned me.

Given a few of the stories I've heard here of C-sections that proceeded with
insufficient anesthesia, I'd probably add, "If I yell "Ouch, that hurts!",
the anesthesia probably didn't take and I expect you to take me seriously
and do something about it."

Not that this is necessarily particularly likely, but I do know that some of
the women who had sections with incomplete anesthesia reported that their
caregivers dismissed their complaints that they felt pain by saying they
were really only feeling "pressure". I'd just want to make it abundantly
clear that if I say I am in pain, I am in pain, not just feeling pressure!
--
Be well, Barbara
Irrational Number - 27 Jul 2005 23:47 GMT
> [...] I do know that some of
> the women who had sections with incomplete anesthesia reported that their
> caregivers dismissed their complaints that they felt pain by saying they
> were really only feeling "pressure". I'd just want to make it abundantly
> clear that if I say I am in pain, I am in pain, not just feeling pressure!

Ooh, that is terrible!!!  I've had fabulous
anesthesiologists for both my sections who
were so very responsive, stayed with me,
calmed me down, and listened to everything
I needed.

-- Anita --
Mary W. - 29 Jul 2005 17:20 GMT
>>OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
>>emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up before
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>       "We're making the incision now," etc.)
>     - My husband stays with me AT ALL TIMES.

I'd agree with this until baby is born. Then husband stays with baby
at all times. I do remember for my section, that there was a period
of time when I first got in the OR that my husband wasn't with me.
Maybe they were prepping? I can't remember.....

Mary W.
Mamma Mia - 28 Jul 2005 00:02 GMT
how about "if i go into labour spontaneiously and you hvae to get out of bed
on sunday night to do what you call an emergency c, pls do not be an
arrogant and dissmissive sh.t.  Please also introduce yourself to my husband
before you slice into his wife.  "  oh hang on, that is probably just my doc
!!!  :)

good luck grymma,  i actually cant think of anything serious, mine seemd to
go ok!  nothing i would look back on and change, except the doctor's
attitude, but hey.  give that little baby a big cuddle from all of us!

christine
> OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
> emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> the consultant, then I won't see her again until the actual birth day, a
> couple of weeks after that...
larissa - 28 Jul 2005 01:59 GMT
Here are a few things I can think of.

- ask not to have your hands strapped down, I never did, but it seems to
be the practise in some hospitals

- ask to see your baby as soon as possible in the operating theatre, have
them bring her/him up to your head so you can see them and talk to her/him
as soon as possible

- sleep with a baby blanket, before the birth, so it has your scent and
have the staff use that blanket to wrap the baby, so even if it is away
from you for a while it can still smell you.

-have your baby brought into you in recovery if possible

-Send your DH with the baby if it has to be away from you for weighing,
prodding, poking etc.

Good luck with everything

Larissa
Mum to
DD feb 99
DS mar 01
DD2 dec 03
Mum of Two - 28 Jul 2005 04:47 GMT
> OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
> emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up
> before handing to us, we don't like slime, and hubby is pretty squeamish'

Not much advice on the c-section as I haven't had one, but I'd be specific
about how you want your baby cleaned. New babies are _not really that gross_
despite what you see on TV (I think they coat them with coloured KY jelly
on-screen).
Usually they will rub them with a towel after delivery, which stimulates
them to cry and breathe properly, and that removes most of the blood and
yuck. All you have then is vernix, which is a white, waxy substance - and it
smells just like new baby, nothing else. It's better for the baby's skin to
let the vernix absorb into it, so they don't scrub babies the instant
they're delivered like they used to! DD had her first bath on about the
third day, and it was weeks before we got all the vernix from her newborn
folds. She never smelt nasty ;-)
My DH is extremely squeamish (he gets an unsettled gut if he sees CSI) and
he ended up cutting the cord following our second baby's birth. Husbands can
surprise you!
Seeing as you're having a planned C, why not ask if you can have that first
skin-to-skin and possibly breastfeed on the operating table while they're
doing the stitches? It would depend on individual hospital policy, but a
lady I know in the US did this, I've seen her birth photos. HTH!

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Grymma - 28 Jul 2005 13:46 GMT
>> OK, so I'm having a planned caesarian, but there must be things I need to
>> emphasise. All I can think of right now is 'please clean the baby up
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> policy, but a lady I know in the US did this, I've seen her birth photos.
> HTH!

Thank you all - some food for thought there :o)

Re slime, etc - yes, just dried down with the towel is fine, but all these
(UK and US) birth programmes I have been seeing, show the baby, all blood
and fluid-covered being placed straight onto Mum (sometimes even in c/s
situations) and it's not something I fancy. DH definitely couldn't bear it
(I know him too well). Last time out, DH saw a bit too much of the operation
site via the shiny surround on the lights, and the reflection on the
surgeons glasses. His mother tells me he nightmared badly all week after
that, while we recovered in hospital, and I don't want to freak him out like
that again!

Also last time, our baby wasn't bathed after the birth for a couple of days
either, they thought she was too cold after birth, and had her wrapped up
and hatted - but I don't recall her actually having any mess or vernix on
her, just a small amount of gunk in her ear...
Re skin to skin on the table, I don't think I could, I'm going to be lying
flat, which I hate, and the trolley is so narrow, I just wouldn't feel
comfortable.  I'm going to make sure DH goes out to recovery to enjoy baby
for a while, while they stitch me up, to keep the experience good for him,
and then when they move me out there, I'll try skin to skin and bf'ing.

I remembered another thing to add to my list 'Make me go for a bath as soon
as the epidural wears off, no matter how reluctant I am, or whatever the
time is - if I don't get one, I bruise extremely deeply, seize up completely
and you will have to physically turn me over in the night etc'  :-/

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