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any ideas? iraq siamese twins

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Anne Rogers - 27 Jan 2006 18:02 GMT
just been listening to BBC radio 4

there was a report about siamese twins born in iraq 2 days ago and said they
were boy and girl, thinking this was rather odd, I went into the bbc
website, but cannot find any reference to the story, so I googled it, still
nothing, it's not April 1st, so what on earth is going on!

Anne
Jamie Clark - 27 Jan 2006 18:11 GMT
I haven't heard anything about it.  I did a Google search on "Siamese twins
Iraq" and "conjoined twins Iraq" and didn't find anything recent from any
sources.

Maybe you misheard, or maybe it was a "late breaking" story that they
broadcast and then realized it was wrong, so pulled it.  Who knows.
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> just been listening to BBC radio 4
>
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>
> Anne
Anne Rogers - 27 Jan 2006 18:18 GMT
>I haven't heard anything about it.  I did a Google search on "Siamese twins
>Iraq" and "conjoined twins Iraq" and didn't find anything recent from any
>sources.
>
> Maybe you misheard, or maybe it was a "late breaking" story that they
> broadcast and then realized it was wrong, so pulled it.  Who knows.

definitely didn't mishear, wasn't really listening at first, but at the
headline I stopped what I was doing, they had a reporter in the hospital in
Baghdad, interviews with the parents and later in the report they repeated
"boy and girl". They are joined above the hip, sharing 3 kidneys and ones
legs are not fully formed. It was right at the end of the show, 17.50 (i.e.
less than half an hour ago) I think I will go and find it on "listen again"

Anne
Jamie Clark - 27 Jan 2006 18:47 GMT
http://www.moroccotimes.com/news/article.asp?id=11910

Is it this?  This seems to be the most recently born conjoined twins, but I
can't tell the gender from the names, "Hafsa" and "Ilham".  They were born
50 days ago in Morroco, but will be separated in Saudi Arabia.  Okay,
checking another article, it appears that they are both girls.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=75696&d=3&m=1&y=2006

I'm guessing this isn't it.  Now you've me curious.  Please provide the link
once you find it, okay?
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Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- My Little Ham, who smiles so big her eyes
disappear and she says, "Cheese" on command.  Although it sounds more like
"eeeeeesssshhh"!

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> >I haven't heard anything about it.  I did a Google search on "Siamese
> >twins Iraq" and "conjoined twins Iraq" and didn't find anything recent
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>
> Anne
Anne Rogers - 27 Jan 2006 19:17 GMT
> I'm guessing this isn't it.  Now you've me curious.  Please provide the
> link
> once you find it, okay?

you can listen to the story on the website, the "listen to the latest
program" should take you today (Friday), it was almost 54 minutes into the
program
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/pm/

I've emailed the program to see what they can say!

Anne
Anne Rogers - 27 Jan 2006 21:57 GMT
finally

"In Baghdad, the parents of a boy and girl born joined together at the hip
have issued an appeal for help.
The twins need to be separated, but there are no facilities for the
operation in Iraq. Jonny Dymond reports from Baghdad. "

from the BBC website, it's a video feed

Anne
Jamie Clark - 27 Jan 2006 22:32 GMT
Very bizarre.  I thought that usually, only same sex children would be
conjoined as it was a single egg that split, although not very well.  But, I
also think I remember hearing that sometimes non-identical twins can be
conjoined as well, as they sort of fuse together during the early
development, and it can affect the development as well, which it clearly did
in the case of these boy/girl twins in Iraq.  Hopefully they will be able to
be brought to America, or somewhere else, where they can have access to
better medical care and be separated.
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Earth Angels:
Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Who's got the Christmas spirit, singing all day
long, "You put one foot in front of the other, and soon you'll be walking
out the doooo-oooo-ooor!
Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- My Little Ham, who smiles so big her eyes
disappear and she says, "Cheese" on command.  Although it sounds more like
"eeeeeesssshhh"!

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> finally
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> Anne
Anne Rogers - 27 Jan 2006 23:27 GMT
"Jamie Clark" <jamielee6@comcast.net> wrote in message
> Very bizarre.  I thought that usually, only same sex children would be
> conjoined as it was a single egg that split, although not very well.  But,
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> able to be brought to America, or somewhere else, where they can have
> access to better medical care and be separated.

yeah, that's what I thought too, however apparently there are some genetic
malformations that can cause monozygotic twins (i.e. from the same egg and
sperm, usually called identical), to actually be different sexes and not
actually identical, I suppose if that can happen then it can happen and them
to be conjoined! My other thought was some sort of deformity that makes them
think one is a boy (or the other way round), when in fact they are both of
the same sex, but I guess that will be cleared up as news comes out.

Anne
Elle - 28 Jan 2006 00:34 GMT
> finally
>
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>
> from the BBC website, it's a video feed

That is very bizarre, I've never heard of opposite sex cojoined twins.
Must be very rare. The Hospital for Sick Children here in Toronto
recently separated a set of cojoined twins from Zimbabwe. It happened
that a Canadian doctor was doing a stint in a hospital there when it
was discovered (very late in the pregnancy) that the boys were joined
at the torso. I think they shared a liver. Anyway she delivered them
via c-section and then spear-headed a campaign to raise the funds from
a variety of sources and the doctors here donated their time to
separate the twins when they were nearly a year old. They also had
quite severe cleft lips and palates that were repaired. It was a very
long process, apparently now they are nearly 2 and doing well although
somewhat malnourished and underweight but of course everyone wonders
what will happen to these boys as they grow up in their very poor rural
village.

Elle
 
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