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Moon Shyne - 05 Feb 2006 20:45 GMT Kate, my wise friend
You ever hear of Sensory Integration Disorder? Know anything about it beyond what is available via googling?
'Kate - 06 Feb 2006 17:49 GMT >Kate, my wise friend > >You ever hear of Sensory Integration Disorder? Know anything about it beyond what is available via googling? I have heard of it but only in regard to Alzheimer's and not in any great detail. I can check the DSM-IV-TR and the university library after class and see what I can find.
I'm out at 4 central... should be home by 4:30 give or take.
'Kate
'Kate - 06 Feb 2006 23:29 GMT >>Kate, my wise friend >> >>You ever hear of Sensory Integration Disorder? Know anything about it beyond what is available via googling? Ok... I did find a few articles that apply to children. I'm not sure whether you'll have access to them following the links below because I've gotten them through the university library. If you can give me some background, I can tailor the search to fit better.
Full text articles: Greenspan, S. I. Working With the Child Who Has Sensory Integration Disorder. Scholastic Early Childhood Today v. 18 no. 7 (May 2004) p. 20-1 http://vnweb.hwwilsonweb.com/hww/jumpstart.jhtml?recid=0bc05f7a67b1790e06b813523 bdf277f3aa6616e975709e37a1520eb444b97d615a996ea44d0d7fc&fmt=H"
Noonan, D. Why Don't We Call Them Quirky?. Newsweek v. 143 no. 18 (May 3 2004) http://vnweb.hwwilsonweb.com/hww/jumpstart.jhtml?recid=0bc05f7a67b1790e06b813523 bdf277f3aa6616e975709e3551aeda22c8d6ebbb02bdcb5e2631d69&fmt=H"
Treating ADD/ADHD Naturally. The Exceptional Parent v. 33 no. 2 (F 2003) p. 40</a> p. 50-2 http://vnweb.hwwilsonweb.com/hww/jumpstart.jhtml?recid=0bc05f7a67b1790e06b813523 bdf277f3aa6616e975709e3323941848b2987c5b7b03dc221201d0c&fmt=H"
Stolberg, S. G. Debating diagnosis of a sensory malady in children. New York Times (Late New York Edition) (July 9 2002) p. F6 http://vnweb.hwwilsonweb.com/hww/jumpstart.jhtml?recid=0bc05f7a67b1790e06b813523 bdf277f1026ec741c0e6dd190ac97fc82447b910f7b1889547f427f&fmt=C"
Citations only - if you want either of the following, I will have to order the publications through the library. No problem.. just let me know.
Title: Through the lens of sensory integration: a different way of analyzing challenging behavior Personal Author: Bakley, Sue Peer Reviewed Journal: Y Journal Name: Young Children Source: Young Children v. 56 no. 6 (November 2001) p. 70-6 Publication Year: 2001 Physical Description: Bibliography ISSN: 0044-0728 Language of Document: English Abstract: Early childhood educators need to be aware that some children's inability to cope with the ordinary demands of everyday life may be caused by sensory processing difficulties. Children whose brains cannot organize sensory input can be confused, distracted, and disorganized. Teachers can help these children by remembering that behavior is communication, translating children's feelings into words, keeping the classroom environment orderly and organized, offering a secluded area away from the mainstream, helping children get off on the right foot each day, refraining from programming every minute of the day, allowing children to find the most comfortable positions in which to work, structuring transitions, providing choices, paying attention to appropriate behaviors, offering physical support during group times, and offering the security of routine, ritual, and predictability. Some of the possible causes of sensory integration disorder are described, and advice to help teachers recognize if a child has sensory processing problems is offered. Subject(s): Perception disorders; Problem children/Education; Learning, Psychology of/Perceptual learning Document Type: Feature Article Database: Education Accession Number: 200130500023013
OmniFile Full Text Mega Title: On inventing your own disorder Personal Author: Newman, Bobby Journal Name: Skeptical Inquirer Source: Skeptical Inquirer v. 24 no. 6 (November/December 2000) p. 56-7 Publication Year: 2000 Physical Description: Illustration ISSN: 0194-6730 Language of Document: English Abstract: The writer, an applied behavior analytic teacher for autistic children, discusses an antiempirical disorder called sensory integration disorder. Those therapists who subscribe to sensory integrative therapy just believe in it. They will provide the treatment, irrespective of the fact that they can demonstrate no documented empirical effectiveness for it. The obvious message being sent out is that actual empirical research is not important. Just such an antiempirical position has, however, given us countless examples of blind alleys or even clearly destructive treatments. Subject(s): Autistic children/Education; Behavior modification; Quacks and quackery Document Type: Feature Article Database: Readers' Guide (Current Events) Accession Number: 200030600676016
Moon Shyne - 07 Feb 2006 03:09 GMT >>>Kate, my wise friend >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I've gotten them through the university library. If you can give me some > background, I can tailor the search to fit better. Thanks for the links - this is all post-concussion, with my kid - fairly oblivious to physical input - bumps into things, knocks things off tables, doesn't even notice it. High threshhold for pain, again, doesn't notice it.
Auditory input, visual input are overwhelming - can't tune out background noise, so trouble concentrating. Too much visual stimulation (like a horde of kids at a school dance) causes a meltdown. Effects are mountains of stress, which by the end of the week are generally overwhelming. I think the stress is causing depression-like symptoms, and depression isn't really the problem. Major overload might be.
We're seeing a specialist tomorrow - I was just looking for as much information as possible - it only became one of those lightbulb moments last week, when something that was said triggered a recognition of what I've been seeing for months (concussion was mid-late october)
> Full text articles: > Greenspan, S. I. Working With the Child Who Has Sensory Integration [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > Database: Readers' Guide (Current Events) > Accession Number: 200030600676016 'Kate - 07 Feb 2006 15:23 GMT >Thanks for the links - this is all post-concussion, with my kid - fairly oblivious to physical input - bumps into >things, knocks things off tables, doesn't even notice it. High threshhold for pain, again, doesn't notice it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >by the end of the week are generally overwhelming. I think the stress is causing depression-like symptoms, and >depression isn't really the problem. Major overload might be. I get that way with simple sinus infections. Noise at normal levels becomes overwhelming and I get frustrated more easily because of it. Poor kiddo!
>We're seeing a specialist tomorrow - I was just looking for as much information as possible - it only became one of >those lightbulb moments last week, when something that was said triggered a recognition of what I've been seeing for >months (concussion was mid-late october) Ok.. good that you're following up & that you connected the concussion to what's happening. Sorry to hear that he was injured. From what I read, there are physical therapies that work well. He's young and that works, very much, in his favor. The brain repairs itself slowly but the first six months are so are important.
Let me know how it goes with the specialist.
If you need me to look up literature on specific programs (once you get a recommendation), let me know.
Moon Shyne - 07 Feb 2006 22:29 GMT >>Thanks for the links - this is all post-concussion, with my kid - fairly oblivious to physical input - bumps into >>things, knocks things off tables, doesn't even notice it. High threshhold for pain, again, doesn't notice it. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Ok.. good that you're following up & that you connected the concussion > to what's happening. Sorry to hear that he was injured. She. My 14 year old daughter. Punched in the face by a 15 year old boy. Concussion. Damage to otherwise perfect teeth (never had a cavity)
And now, all of these things that she simply can't cope with. We're all frustrated.
From what I
> read, there are physical therapies that work well. He's young and that > works, very much, in his favor. The brain repairs itself slowly but the > first six months are so are important. I know - we're on month 4 now. I think what bothers me the most is that this kid, and his mother, show zero signs of feeling badly that he did this to her. Nothing. Been to court on this twice (as the victim, she has the right to attend all hearings), they won't even look me in the face. We're asking for restitution, the bills are through the roof - and even a court order for restitution doesn't necessarily translate to them actually ponying up the money
> Let me know how it goes with the specialist. So so - she's not overly fond with his style, she doesn't want to be on meds, though I got her to agree to try them for this first month and see if it helps - there are so freaking many components to this - stress, anxiety, more stress, frustration, some more stress (just in case we didn't get the last 2 boadloads of it), accommodations at school to cope with the loss of short term memory.....
I need a vacation.
> If you need me to look up literature on specific programs (once you get > a recommendation), let me know. Well, we got a referral for a place for biofeedback, which I think can be helpful for a lot of the issues.... so tomorrow I'm calling the insurance company to see what referrals we need to get it covered.
'Kate - 07 Feb 2006 23:11 GMT >>>Thanks for the links - this is all post-concussion, with my kid - fairly oblivious to physical input - bumps into >>>things, knocks things off tables, doesn't even notice it. High threshhold for pain, again, doesn't notice it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >She. My 14 year old daughter. Ya know... I thought so but saw "kid" and assumed "boy". Then I thought, "huh...why's she asking about some other kid?" It never quite connected. D'oh. Sorry!
> Punched in the face by a 15 year old boy. Concussion. Damage to otherwise perfect >teeth (never had a cavity) > >And now, all of these things that she simply can't cope with. We're all frustrated. What *ever* made that idiot think it was ok to hit a girl?
> From what I >> read, there are physical therapies that work well. He's young and that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >attend all hearings), they won't even look me in the face. We're asking for restitution, the bills are through the >roof - and even a court order for restitution doesn't necessarily translate to them actually ponying up the money Ah hell. I'm so sorry to hear that. Lawyers make people do the wrong thing. Of course they can't look you in the face. Have you looked into crime victim's compensation? Does this qualify? Was he ever charged with assault? Did it happen at school or on the street?
>> Let me know how it goes with the specialist. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I need a vacation. I wish I could wave my magic wand and take care of that for ya. What a bitch of a thing to have happen to her! The most we get is our house and car egged, magazines spread on our walkway (what a pain when it's already raining), and trash and bottles thrown at the house. My darling daughter has an enemy.
>> If you need me to look up literature on specific programs (once you get >> a recommendation), let me know. > >Well, we got a referral for a place for biofeedback, which I think can be helpful for a lot of the issues.... so >tomorrow I'm calling the insurance company to see what referrals we need to get it covered. I'm home tomorrow and part of thursday... then not till the evenings or on the weekend.
Moon Shyne - 07 Feb 2006 23:25 GMT >>>>Thanks for the links - this is all post-concussion, with my kid - fairly oblivious to physical input - bumps into >>>>things, knocks things off tables, doesn't even notice it. High threshhold for pain, again, doesn't notice it. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "huh...why's she asking about some other kid?" It never quite connected. > D'oh. Sorry! Don't be - I have 2 kids - the younger one is a boy.
>> Punched in the face by a 15 year old boy. Concussion. Damage to otherwise perfect >>teeth (never had a cavity) >> >>And now, all of these things that she simply can't cope with. We're all frustrated. > > What *ever* made that idiot think it was ok to hit a girl? Apparently he took offense when she brushed him aside to go to her class.
I dunno.
>> From what I >>> read, there are physical therapies that work well. He's young and that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > crime victim's compensation? Does this qualify? Was he ever charged with > assault? Did it happen at school or on the street? He's been charged by the DA with substantial battery - those are the hearings that I've attended. Even the kid's own social worker (he gets a social worker, he gets a public defender for an attorney, and my bills are over 3 grand, AFTER the insurance coverage)..... what's wrong with this picture?
Anyway, even his own social worker recommended supervision, random drug and alcohol testing, he has to get a job, and restitution, though I don't think she realized that we're closing in on maxing out the restitution available with a juvenile case. Then I have the paperwork for the state crime victim restitution fund, and every time I get ready to send it in, I get another bill, or another co-pay, or another Rx.
Gotta get that paperwork in.
>>> Let me know how it goes with the specialist. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I wish I could wave my magic wand and take care of that for ya. Me too, dearheart...... thanks for the thought.
What a
> bitch of a thing to have happen to her! The most we get is our house and > car egged, magazines spread on our walkway (what a pain when it's > already raining), and trash and bottles thrown at the house. My darling > daughter has an enemy. As long as the enemy doesn't punch her.
I'll take the trash and eggs any day.
Can you tell today was a bad day?
>>> If you need me to look up literature on specific programs (once you get >>> a recommendation), let me know. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm home tomorrow and part of thursday... then not till the evenings or > on the weekend. Thanks - I got ya on ICQ, I'll holler if I need ya....... and you always have the right to not have the time at the moment..
'Kate - 08 Feb 2006 02:38 GMT >Can you tell today was a bad day? Yeah. But it sounds like you're as on top of everything as you can possibly be.
Hugs to you all. 'Kate
Moon Shyne - 07 Feb 2006 23:28 GMT Ya know? the nicest is to just be able to talk about it.
My dad is quite ill, the rule of that household is to not stress him...... so I haven't told him anything about it - almost slipped when she started using the accomodations at school, and only missed honor roll by .045
Which, considering she had been bombing every test and quiz with the memory problems was a minor miracle.... almost slipped and told dad how much better it was, then realized he didnt know.
I know it'll get better....... it's just tough, some days, I mean, life is hard enough at times, trying to work full time, raise the kids, and all the other things that sole parents deal with....... I didn't need all this extra stuff too!
<sigh>
This too shall pass........ my mom said it all the time. Hopefully, she was right.
'Kate - 08 Feb 2006 02:41 GMT >Ya know? the nicest is to just be able to talk about it. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Which, considering she had been bombing every test and quiz with the memory problems was a minor miracle.... almost >slipped and told dad how much better it was, then realized he didnt know. It's probably better that he doesn't worry about her.
>I know it'll get better....... it's just tough, some days, I mean, life is hard enough at times, trying to work full >time, raise the kids, and all the other things that sole parents deal with....... I didn't need all this extra stuff >too! I can't imagine how you do it day to day. As much as I'm looking forward to working full time, I'm wondering how I'm going to take care of everything... and I know that some things won't be as well taken care of as they are now. Like finals week but year round.
><sigh> > >This too shall pass........ my mom said it all the time. Hopefully, she was right.
:-) I think she's right. 'K
Moon Shyne - 08 Feb 2006 10:26 GMT >>Ya know? the nicest is to just be able to talk about it. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I can't imagine how you do it day to day. Think crock pot. Veggies in the bottom. Meat on top. Sauce over the whole thing. Cover. Turn to low. Come home to dinner.
My crock pot is my best friend!
As much as I'm looking forward
> to working full time, I'm wondering how I'm going to take care of > everything... and I know that some things won't be as well taken care of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 'K 'Kate - 10 Feb 2006 02:21 GMT >Think crock pot. Veggies in the bottom. Meat on top. Sauce over the whole thing. Cover. Turn to low. Come home to >dinner. I'd forgotten! Another woman told me that she cooks on the weekend and they eat it all week. I may need a bigger refrigerator.
>My crock pot is my best friend! My favorite is still chicken, a jar of tomato sauce, and a couple of bags of frozen stew vegetables.
The kids really do need to learn how to cook. I just look at them and think of having to do that for my siblings and I don't want them to *have* to cook. I want them to enjoy it and do it 'cause they like it. Or at least, 'cause they're hungry and need a *good* meal.
'K
Moon Shyne - 10 Feb 2006 03:34 GMT >>Think crock pot. Veggies in the bottom. Meat on top. Sauce over the whole thing. Cover. Turn to low. Come home >>to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > My favorite is still chicken, a jar of tomato sauce, and a couple of > bags of frozen stew vegetables. Dinner last night - some small red potatoes, some baby carrots, some small pearl onions..... toss in some chicken breasts, and then dump a jar of peach salsa over it.
Some wild rice, and dinner was ready.
I think it's a formula - some veggies (I have the frozen stew ones in the freezer for another meal), some meat, and some sauce.
> The kids really do need to learn how to cook. I just look at them and > think of having to do that for my siblings and I don't want them to > *have* to cook. I want them to enjoy it and do it 'cause they like it. > Or at least, 'cause they're hungry and need a *good* meal. My kids would live on ramen if I let them :-)
> 'K Moon Shyne - 10 Feb 2006 03:38 GMT If you want crock pot recipes, I get one in the email every week from about.com
Not sure how I signed up for it, but they have a bunch of crockpot recipes here
http://busycooks.about.com/od/slowcookerrecipes/
>>Think crock pot. Veggies in the bottom. Meat on top. Sauce over the whole thing. Cover. Turn to low. Come home >>to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > 'K Moon Shyne - 10 Feb 2006 03:40 GMT Found it
http://southernfood.about.com/c/ec/1.htm
You can sign up for the recipes - they email 1 a week.
>>Think crock pot. Veggies in the bottom. Meat on top. Sauce over the whole thing. Cover. Turn to low. Come home >>to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > 'K
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