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denanson - 20 Dec 2004 19:59 GMT
Hi All, let me be the first to say Merry Christmas to everyone as I may not
have much time later.

Have bought some great presents this year. In the past Freddie's present has
disapeared to his mothers house for months on end so to get my own back (or
ensure that it stays here this year, I have bought him a drum kit! Ho Ho Ho!

Because Freddie's shoes always come back from her place encrusted in mud on
the tops and in dog turd underneath, I have bought her a shoeshine kit, Ho
Ho Ho!

Love to all, Dennis
Joelle - 20 Dec 2004 20:39 GMT
>so to get my own back (or
>ensure that it stays here this year, I have bought him a drum kit! Ho Ho Ho!

And this is a gift you *want* to stay at your house ( :- 0

My son has cleaned out the kitty litter boxes for months and saved up to my a
Ninento DS.   I couldn't convince him to wait till after xmas to buy it so
he'll have it this week.

But for Christmas he's getting a piece of paper saying he still has the money
he saved for it cuz the DS is from me ;-)

HO HO HO

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle
Karen - 21 Dec 2004 18:03 GMT
That's a generous idea but I am wondering if he'll miss out on the
satisfaction of earning it himself?...

Karen
Joelle - 21 Dec 2004 18:16 GMT
>That's a generous idea but I am wondering if he'll miss out on the
>satisfaction of earning it himself?...

Not that I asked your opinion - but duh - he DID earn it himself, regardless if
I give him another $100 or not.  That's why I let him do it instead of saying
he could have it for christmas.

Geesh and you don't think you are hypercritical fo EVERYTHING I say or do, here
you are criticizing my damn presents for my kids.  You are a piece of work.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle
steveb - 21 Dec 2004 18:25 GMT
>Not that I asked your opinion

You posted it to Usenet .....

If ya can't stand the heat, get outa the internet!

And Season's Greetings :)

steveb
--
*But when a long train of abuses and usurpations,
pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design
to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off
such Government, and to provide new Guards for
their future security*

Declaration of Independence
In Congress, July 4th, 1776
Lisa - 21 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT
> >That's a generous idea but I am wondering if he'll miss out on the
> >satisfaction of earning it himself?...
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> Augustine
> Joelle

We did the exact same thing with my son, he saved his money for an Xbox, and
purchased it at the end of November.  My husband, however, simply could not
wait and helped out by upgrading to the Crystal version, plus buying another
game.  I know better than to let those two go shopping by themselves.

Our boy is very proud of himself that he saved for it, and understands that
the upgrading is part of his Christmas present.  None of this took away from
the fact that he saved enough himself.

Lisa
Joelle - 21 Dec 2004 19:23 GMT
>Our boy is very proud of himself that he saved for it, and understands that
>the upgrading is part of his Christmas present

Seems like a win win- he gets to save and earn something himself, you get to
give him an even bigger surprise -everyone is happy.

Wish I sort of thought that's what the holdays were for...

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle
Lisa - 21 Dec 2004 19:35 GMT
> >Our boy is very proud of himself that he saved for it, and understands that
> >the upgrading is part of his Christmas present
>
> Seems like a win win- he gets to save and earn something himself, you get to
> give him an even bigger surprise -everyone is happy.

Definately.  Teaching kids these days the value of a buck and earning what
you want isn't that easy it seems.  Compared to his best friend, I have a
juniorslaveboy.  We made sure to praise him a great deal, and his dimples
come out.

> Wish I sort of thought that's what the holdays were for...

Yeah well, my dearest darling was shopping without me again yesterday.

Lisa

> Joelle
> The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
> Augustine
> Joelle
Karen - 21 Dec 2004 22:13 GMT
whoopsie, sorry! I think you're hypersensitive to everything I say. No
offense.

Karen
'Kate - 21 Dec 2004 19:56 GMT
>That's a generous idea but I am wondering if he'll miss out on the
>satisfaction of earning it himself?...
>
>Karen

I don't think so... I think he'll appreciate the generosity of the
gift more because he knows what it's like to earn that amount of
money.  My parents did a similar thing when I was a teen.  I had been
saving for skiis, poles, and boots and there was a big sale but I only
had a little over half.  My parents chipped in the rest for my
christmas/birthday present.  I'll never forget... and it was nearly 30
years ago.

'Kate
Betsy - 22 Dec 2004 11:30 GMT
> That's a generous idea but I am wondering if he'll miss out on the
> satisfaction of earning it himself?...
>
> Karen

From what I read...he DID earn it himself.  Now he just has the extra money
in his pocket to buy games to go with it.  I think that's a great idea
Joelle!

Betsy
Karen - 22 Dec 2004 17:12 GMT
I guess that's very true.

I am just thinking about when I was a kid and saved for a long time
every penny that I earned to buy something that I wanted very much, it
ended up being very prized and cherished possession. I almost think
that special feeling of pride of accomplishing that goal may be
derailed if it's bought by Mom at the last minute. I think I would let
him buy the item himself and buy something else for a gift.

But, I'm probably wrong and he'll think it's way cool and that his Mom
is way generous!

Just tossing out another idea on the subject.

Karen
'Kate - 22 Dec 2004 18:31 GMT
>I guess that's very true.
>
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>derailed if it's bought by Mom at the last minute. I think I would let
>him buy the item himself and buy something else for a gift.

Sure.. that's understandable and possible.

>But, I'm probably wrong and he'll think it's way cool and that his Mom
>is way generous!
>
>Just tossing out another idea on the subject.

It's good to hear it and have to defend one's point of view. It is
possible that it could turn out badly but given that Joelle is a very
conscientious parent who knows the kids pretty well, I kinda think
she's got it right WRT to her child.  I'm also glad you posted the
alternate POV because what if it does backfire on someone else?  Then
what?  

Happy Holidays
'Kate
Karen - 22 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
Happy Holidays to you, also. I'm glad with the google reader that I can
read your posts now!

Karen
'Kate - 22 Dec 2004 21:48 GMT
>Happy Holidays to you, also. I'm glad with the google reader that I can
>read your posts now!
>
>Karen

:-)  Just hard for the rest of us who have to guess who you're replying to!  

thanks.

'Kate
CME - 22 Dec 2004 19:12 GMT
>I guess that's very true.
>
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>
> Karen

When I read it, I thought it was a wonderful idea, something he'll remember
forever because although he saved up and worked hard for it, she's
acknowledging that and rewarding him on top of it.

Christine
denanson - 23 Dec 2004 14:56 GMT
"Joelle" < wrote in message

> >so to get my own back (or
>>ensure that it stays here this year, I have bought him a drum kit! Ho Ho
>>Ho!
>
> And this is a gift you *want* to stay at your house ( :- 0

Yeah! Rock an roll around the Christmas tree this year!

> My son has cleaned out the kitty litter boxes for months and saved up to
> my a
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>
> HO HO HO

A nict touch.
I often go for the 50/50 approach. When they have saved up half for
something expensive that they really want, I will help out with the rest.

Dennis
Lisa - 20 Dec 2004 22:45 GMT
> Hi All, let me be the first to say Merry Christmas to everyone as I may not
> have much time later.
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>
> Love to all, Dennis

I'm like the approach, except that my sister uses it too!  We returned home
from her house yesterday with a gift for my son that was specifically to
come home, oh, and the batteries are nicely wrapped on top of the package.
I'm afraid.

Lisa
Karen - 21 Dec 2004 18:05 GMT
I love your Christmas spirit!

Karen
Karen - 21 Dec 2004 18:08 GMT
I love your Christmas spirit!

Karen
 
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