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She has so many stories to tell about her adventures in Europe. She brought me home some Venetian (Murano) glass floating fish for my fake aquarium and a beautiful ceramic candle holder from Scotland, some refrigerator magnets from stonehenge and venice, and an Eiffel Tower in pewter. She went to England, Scotland, No. Ireland, Belgium, Brussles, France, Germany, Italy, and Holland. I can't wait to see the pictures... but she was dead tired and craving Mexican food (they don't have Taco Bell on every corner like down here in Houston) so after I picked her up, we went out to dinner. I'm so relieved she's home. She'd just left London when the bombs were set off and she returned to London two days after. They're very brave people there. I'm so glad she's home. Have I said that enough? 'Kate ((((((((Kate))))))))) I am so happy for you and your daughter - congrats sweetie - you deserve to be happy!  SignatureA great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James ~robbb CT OF +5.5M > She has so many stories to tell about her adventures in Europe. She > brought me home some Venetian (Murano) glass floating fish for my fake [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > 'Kate >> She has so many stories to tell about her adventures in Europe. She >> brought me home some Venetian (Murano) glass floating fish for my fake [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> 'Kate Sorry I'm piggybacking... Wow it sounds like she had an amazing time. How long was she gone for? Christine >Sorry I'm piggybacking... > >Wow it sounds like she had an amazing time. How long was she gone for? > >Christine 3 weeks. I forgot her stop in Switzerland. 10 countries in 20 days. Ya gotta be young. Eurail & youth hostels (dorms) helped to keep costs down. She met many other young people from all over the globe. The place she'd go back to in a heartbeat is Venice. The place she never wants to visit again is everywhere in France. The men were way too forward. She took a Waldo figurine with her so that she could do a "Where's Waldo" webpage. She managed some other fun things like eating Belgium waffles in Belgium, French bread in France, but drew the line at Brussles sprouts. :-) They eat better over there... smaller portions, a greater variety of tastes each meal, and less fried foods and fast foods. Even so, she managed to find a KFC or McDonalds pretty much everywhere. I love hearing about her adventures. I hope she wakes up and comes over so I can see the pictures! 'K >>Sorry I'm piggybacking... >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 'K Oh I am SOOOO jealous. Europe is definitely on my list of places to travel next. The last thing I'll be doing though is going to McDonalds. lol Christine >Oh I am SOOOO jealous. Europe is definitely on my list of places to travel >next. The last thing I'll be doing though is going to McDonalds. lol She's so spoiled. :-) I saw the pics tonight. Wow. I'll be lucky if I get to McDonalds. No.. not really. I'm not real fond of what passes for food there. 'Kate >>Oh I am SOOOO jealous. Europe is definitely on my list of places to >>travel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > 'Kate Did you see that documentary "Super Size Me"? If I didn't have an aversion to McDonalds BEFORE watching it.... ~shudder~ Christine >Did you see that documentary "Super Size Me"? If I didn't have an aversion >to McDonalds BEFORE watching it.... > >~shudder~ I haven't seen it yet but I have the DVD. I was just watching a show this morning on obesity... and thanks, Alex, for sending me some info from a conference on that subject. I haven't read it yet but I'm getting closer to getting the house organized enough so that I can sit and read. Our lifestyles have to change. We need more mom & pop stores and fewer wal-marts. We need places to walk to. Here in Houston, walking is nearly impossible 8 months out of the year. The weather is atrocious. Even when it's below 95, the humidity and dew points are in the mid 70's to 80's. Consequently, over the last 20 years, my weight has crept upward by about 40-50 lbs. On occasion, I diet it off but it creaps back up and I have to think that either three things are true. There's a psychological reason or lifestyle cause. Or I'm getting older. I put up with weight gain during pregnancy. I put up with weight gain after Phil died. I put up with weight gain when I broke my wrist... but why have I gained it all back when just last year, I was looking better than I have in years? Ok... quitting smoking didn't help. I wasn't prepared to give up food and cigarettes at the same time but really... I gave into the food part in a horrible way. It's time to face the mirror and I don't even want to look. I've also found out that I am borderline diabetic. I have no idea what that means with regard to what I can and cannot eat other than sugar and refined carbs. <sigh> I'm 46. I can't fall apart. I will need to be interviewing for jobs in the spring so I need to fit into my interview clothing and feel good about myself. This extra weight has to come off. And all I do is sit and drive and sit and drive. I've tried accepting myself like "this" but that's not possible. And you know, I'm real hard on myself. From now to spring (march or so), I need to lose 40-50 lbs. Atkins? Weight watchers? I've done both over the years and they both work... to a point. I don't want to have to lose weight again. I think I'm going to have to move from this forgotten city of the everlasting sauna if I'm going to stay active enough year round to not put on weight. Someone help me sort this out willya? help! :-) 'Kate Best suggestion I can offer - join the local Y and start taking just 1 class a week. Go one other night a week with a good book and read for 1/2 hour or so while you walk on a treadmill. After about 4 weeks, add another class. The whole thing is to get your metabolism zipping along at a faster pace - smoking kept it revved up. And I know almost exactly where you're at - I'm 47, quit smoking 1 year ago tomorrow, put on about 10 pounds that I hated.... started with the 1 class a week, now i'm up to about 4 hours per week, and drinking gallons of bottled water - end result is that I didn't really lost the 10 pounds (which I probably needed to gain since I was borderline anorexic), my skin is good, my health is good, my stamina is great and at my last physical my doctor said I had a runner's pulse. Gotta start slow and reasonable - don't aim for losing 40 pounds - aim for 4. Baby steps, just like all of life's other challenges. You got your degree one class at a time, right? Didn't take them all in one semester? >>Did you see that documentary "Super Size Me"? If I didn't have an >>aversion [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > 'Kate On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:49:52 -0500, "Moon Shyne" <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: >Best suggestion I can offer - join the local Y and start taking just 1 class >a week. Go one other night a week with a good book and read for 1/2 hour or [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Baby steps, just like all of life's other challenges. You got your degree >one class at a time, right? Didn't take them all in one semester? I started back on atkins today. I know that works for me. No refined carbs/sugar. That'll help the prediabetes too. I was going to the gym 3x a week but ended up making my back worse than it is. I need to be able to walk into school and to my classes. I can't do that right now... obviously, this hasn't helped things. I think, for right now, I'm going to concentrate on dieting until my body feels better and then go back to the gym in a couple of months. I've missed it. And I won't rely on my umfriend going with me so that when he can't be there, I'm not feeling let down. I wish my doctor was able to do more testing. It's tough for him to guess when his hands are tied by what I can afford. This is not a good country to live in. Geez.. this whole issue has me so upset. First, at myself. Second, that only one person bothered to answer when I asked for help - not even to offer support. Thank you for being the one. I may leave the group because it made me feel so awful today. 'Kate > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:49:52 -0500, "Moon Shyne" > <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > offer support. Thank you for being the one. I may leave the group > because it made me feel so awful today. Please don't leave - you've been a remarkable source of sound thinking, rational ideas, and I, for one, have found you to be a genuinely caring person. It's summer, it's a Friday, and there haven't been as many posts as during the fall and winter - I don't necessarily think it's a lack of caring on the part of the regulars (and you didn't flirt, which always seems to roll out the most responses) Hang in there - you have me on your ICQ if you need to talk > 'Kate On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:40:04 -0500, "Moon Shyne" <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: >Please don't leave - you've been a remarkable source of sound thinking, >rational ideas, and I, for one, have found you to be a genuinely caring >person. Thank you. It's more than that though. The group has been, at times, a lifesaver. I'd like to feel like I make a difference. But I know that the group won't die out if I leave. Maybe there are people staying away because of me. >It's summer, it's a Friday, and there haven't been as many posts as during >the fall and winter - I don't necessarily think it's a lack of caring on the >part of the regulars (and you didn't flirt, which always seems to roll out >the most responses) Maybe the group can make life a little better for some as a dating and flirting group. There's nothing wrong with that. I know most of the single parents here are busy during the day and the weekends are even worse with trying to catch up. >Hang in there - you have me on your ICQ if you need to talk Thanks. > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:49:52 -0500, "Moon Shyne" > <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > 'Kate Slow down there Kate! You aren't going no where. I know how you feel. Losing weight is hard but Moon has a good idea with starting with one class or one workout then increasing gradually. What is wrong with your back? Your workout needs to be designed with those things in mind so that you can continue to work out without hurting your back even more. Don't sweat the diabetes thing.... don't worry about a specific diet either. Eat all your servings of veggies/fruits and healthy grains a day. Limit your dairy (yeah, I know they say dairy helps you lose weight but I don't believe the hype) and limit the unhealthy meats. Healthy meats, eat proper portions. Water, green tea and herbal teas too. Limit junk food to a few handfuls a week. Limit all that pre-packaged foods too..... they get you on carbs/sugars/fat/chemical/chemical/chemicals. FIBER FIBER FIBER. All your past diets..... forget em. They worked/they didn't work... doesn't matter. That is the past. Our bodies are in constant change. What worked then might not work now. Diets offer a frigid method what works for some but not all of us. Exercise is the key and can be the hardest thing to implement into our lifestyles. Your mention of the humidity...... I wouldn't understand that till this summer. We have had high humidity for days and days. Probably not as bad as there but bad enough that I can see where one would say there is no walking anywhere. That is why you have to go to a gym. Just make a promise one day a week. Speak with a professional about what is best for your back. Might be something like water aerobics. Anything jarring like step aerobics/running might be a no-no. One day a week, why wait to start in a few months? Just do it. (heehee.... stealing from Nike). Tell you what..... you promise one night/class a week and I will promise also! I just looked at joining another gym because the little fitness center here where I live sucks and I hate it so I don't go BUT this gym is freaking awesome so I want to start going. Deal? Tiff >Slow down there Kate! You aren't going no where. The jury's still out on that. I posted what I felt and I don't feel any different. I think I expected too much. I'm not good about asking for help so I make do until whatever it is becomes... unmanageable. I don't like that about me. I need to do things slower and with moderation. The problem has been that I don't usually have the time for slow and bit by bit and I'm not good at doing a little of this, a little of that. I can't balance a bunch of things at once. I need to take things one thing at a time. I might be the opposite of ADD. >I know how you feel. Losing weight is hard but Moon has a good idea with >starting with one class or one workout then increasing gradually. What is >wrong with your back? One of the vertebra has slipped forward... sublaxated in chiropractic talk. It's extremely difficult to walk. I have toes that are numb on both feet. The pain factor is about a 5/10. I haven't found a pain med that works on it but the TENS unit provides some relief. >Your workout needs to be designed with those things in >mind so that you can continue to work out without hurting your back even >more. My wrist is also so screwed up that I can't rotate my hand. It made lifting weights difficult and I enjoyed weight training. I'd be happy with just being able to walk. Or sit upright comfortably. >Don't sweat the diabetes thing.... don't worry about a specific diet >either. Eat all your servings of veggies/fruits and healthy grains a day. I do. My downfall is a craving for sweets and cakes. Atkins usually helps to eliminate that craving. >Limit your dairy (yeah, I know they say dairy helps you lose weight but I >don't believe the hype) heh.. I can't use dairy anyway so no big loss. >and limit the unhealthy meats. Healthy meats, eat >proper portions. I do cook with ground beef a lot. You're right about needing to cut down on that, and smoked sausage. It's texas. BBQ is the national pasttime. >Water, green tea and herbal teas too. I do keep track of the water by buying 16.5 oz bottles and making sure four are gone every day. I restrict caffeine because it keeps me up at night. No diet sodas either now because of the aspartame. >Limit junk food to a >few handfuls a week. Limit all that pre-packaged foods too..... they get you >on carbs/sugars/fat/chemical/chemical/chemicals. FIBER FIBER FIBER. I know. I have been buying fresh vegetables and fruit. I rarely eat fruit now because it was making me feel sick but I would kill for a juicy plum. >All your past diets..... forget em. They worked/they didn't work... doesn't >matter. That is the past. Our bodies are in constant change. What worked >then might not work now. Diets offer a frigid method what works for some but >not all of us. I think I'm programmed to dieting because that's pretty much what I've done through the decades. >Exercise is the key and can be the hardest thing to implement >into our lifestyles. I would be happier living in an area that permits and encourages walking. That's how I was raised and it's been an awful 20 years here. As soon as I have my degree and license, I'm outta here. My license will transfer. >Your mention of the humidity...... I wouldn't >understand that till this summer. We have had high humidity for days and >days. Probably not as bad as there but bad enough that I can see where one >would say there is no walking anywhere. There's no where to walk anyway. Everything is miles away and I'm seriously lucky to make it into my classroom from the parking lot at this point. >That is why you have to go to a gym. >Just make a promise one day a week. Speak with a professional about what is >best for your back. Might be something like water aerobics. Anything jarring >like step aerobics/running might be a no-no. LOL.. me, in a bathing suit? I don't think so. I know what you're saying and I will work toward getting my back fixed so that I can be more active. I also have osteopenia... fairly close to osteoporosis because of the hysterectomy years ago and not having adequate estrogen supplementation. What I think would help at this point is a nutritionist and serious testing. Something is out of wack. >One day a week, why wait to >start in a few months? Just do it. (heehee.... stealing from Nike). Tell you >what..... you promise one night/class a week and I will promise also! I just >looked at joining another gym because the little fitness center here where I >live sucks and I hate it so I don't go BUT this gym is freaking awesome so I >want to start going. Deal? I think I'll work on being able to get into my car and out of my car first. My back is that bad. I am not sure what I'm going to do when the kids are grown and gone. They do things for me like put the groceries away and push the shopping cart. Bending is impossible right now. I know. I'm a mess. But this is exactly what I mean. I stopped going to the gym because I hurt too much and needed to stay in school. I didn't have the five hours a week and the kids were taking advantage of my being out of the home for more than 45 hours a week between classes, the gym, and the other crap that I have to do for my license. Both have their learners' permit so I've been teaching them and taking them out driving. I wish they'd cooperate a bit more and do what I tell them when I tell them. Mike's ok. Lisa does things in her own sweet time. She has still not finished her room redecorating. I'm mad at myself for letting her start it. I can't help and she has three big boxes that I loaned her to help her organize things... I need them back so I can do what I have to do and I'm threatening to up end them in her room and take them. I need to get things done. Mike's starting college and I'm trying to get his financial aid and admissions stuff set so that he can register. I don't have the energy to take him to the school. <sigh> I think that it's all been impossible without family or a spouse helping to raise these children. They're not problem children but it's an awful lot of work. maybe I'm just in a mood. I seem to be rambling. Thanks for listening anyway. I wish I could do all of what you're suggesting 'cause I know both you and moon are right. I feel like I'm too far behind to catch up now. 'Kate <snip> > maybe I'm just in a mood. I seem to be rambling. Thanks for listening > anyway. I wish I could do all of what you're suggesting 'cause I know > both you and moon are right. I feel like I'm too far behind to catch up > now. Do you remember that flylady.com site Joelle posted about? One thing they hammer on each and every email - do NOT try to catch up. You cannot change yesterday. Just start from where you are, today. Baby steps. Kids aren't helpful - we love 'em to death, but face it, they don't get human till they grow up, have their own kids, and realize how rotten they were as kids (cause they got one that's just like they were, usually) If you need those storage boxes back, just go in there, dump 'em out and take 'em back (but give her something like 48 hours notice). If you don't want to do that, ICQ me your address - I have a ton of those big storage bins in the basement, I'll send you some (cleans up some of MY clutter, what, you thought I was being nice?) > 'Kate On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:41:00 -0500, "Moon Shyne" <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: >Do you remember that flylady.com site Joelle posted about? One thing they >hammer on each and every email - do NOT try to catch up. You cannot change >yesterday. Just start from where you are, today. Baby steps. I know. I just don't feel satsified with a half-done job. I want it all done. I have patience for others but not for myself. >Kids aren't helpful - we love 'em to death, but face it, they don't get >human till they grow up, have their own kids, and realize how rotten they >were as kids (cause they got one that's just like they were, usually) Oh. I'd forgotten that. I'm trying so hard to get my daughter to get started again on her room. She can't live like that. >If you need those storage boxes back, just go in there, dump 'em out and >take 'em back (but give her something like 48 hours notice). If you don't >want to do that, ICQ me your address - I have a ton of those big storage >bins in the basement, I'll send you some (cleans up some of MY clutter, >what, you thought I was being nice?) LOL I have some here and some there. It's just that I had plans for those boxes. The good thing is that Purple Heart was here yesterday to pick up things I no longer need, want, use, or see any value in reselling. thank you for the offer but they'd cost more to ship than it would to buy 'em. 'Kate > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:41:00 -0500, "Moon Shyne" > <moonshyne__@hotmail.com> the following was posted in blue dry erase [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > buy 'em. > 'Kate Yeah I have a charity organization picking up a bunch of stuff too. I find it helps my mental state to do a complete organization of my house and throw out the sh.t I don't need. Now if only shedding pounds was that easy. :'( Christine (Btw, I haven't been on lately because a rain storm fried my DSL modem so I'm waiting for a human error to be corrected at work so I can finally get my paycheck and then I can go out and buy a new one, and Telus will credit my account... I don't see why they can't just give me a new one and call it even. lol) >Yeah I have a charity organization picking up a bunch of stuff too. I find >it helps my mental state to do a complete organization of my house and throw [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >my account... I don't see why they can't just give me a new one and call it >even. lol) :-) Yeah... I was just being overly sensitive that day. I can get that way. I know that things happen and you guys are busy with your own stuff. It's not easy to be a single parent and I forget, sometimes, what it was like before. I have managed to throw out or donate about six trash bags full of stuff so far. I hope you get your check straightened out and get that modem soon. 'Kate >>Yeah I have a charity organization picking up a bunch of stuff too. I >>find [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > 'Kate I have had nothing but bad luck when it comes to money this month, I think life is trying to teach me something. :( Christine >>Did you see that documentary "Super Size Me"? If I didn't have an >>aversion [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > 'Kate Kate don't feel bad, I've been struggling with my weight for about 5 years now. I was on depro-prova and it messed up my metabolism and hormone levels so much that dieting and exercise didn't matter. I gained 75lbs in ONE YEAR and have been fighting to lose the last 30-40 for about 4 years now. It does affect how you view yourself... I went from a Barbie to Rosie Doll in a short amount of time and yeah I was depressed over it. But now I look at it, that I'm still the same person... I'm still sexy, smart and have alot going for myself, and if people want to judge me because I'm flabbier than I used to be then they're not worth knowing. Christine >Kate don't feel bad, I've been struggling with my weight for about 5 years >now. I was on depro-prova and it messed up my metabolism and hormone levels [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Christine Depro provera will do that, that's for sure. It is more about how I feel about myself than about actual weight. And it's not that 'B' cares. He is more accepting of how I look than I am. People do treat me differently now. Maybe it's that I've lost confidence or that I can't fit in my nice clothing and see this as temporary... so I buy cheap clothing that doesn't necessarily look good. I can't see investing in anything nice. I started back on Atkins. this is day 3. I feel a lot better without the sugar and refined carbs. In another 10 days or so, I should be 10 lbs lighter. That'll help. My goal is to lose 20 by the time school starts august 25th. If I can do that, it'll be easier to do the hike from the parking lot in 100 degree plus heat. Geez, it's hot out there. Thanks, C. 'Kate >>Kate don't feel bad, I've been struggling with my weight for about 5 years >>now. I was on depro-prova and it messed up my metabolism and hormone [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > 'Kate I flat out refuse to give up carbs, oh my sweet sweet carbs. lol I don't crave sugar or chocolate, but oh do I love rice and pasta. Chips are banned in this house but then I end up caving and buying a bag, they're like crack. ~sigh~ Christine >I flat out refuse to give up carbs, oh my sweet sweet carbs. lol I know what you mean. It's food, it's yum, and it's cheap. But it also doesn't have a lot of nutrition. I had grown fond of the whole wheat pasta before I started back on atkins. It was better tasting and less gummy than the white flour pasta. That's the reason why this diet works well for me. High glycemic index carbs screw with my blood sugar and make me hungry all day. When I don't use HGI carbs, I don't crave them. >I don't >crave sugar or chocolate, but oh do I love rice and pasta. Chips are banned [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Christine Boy do I understand that. 'Kate This was shown here last month. It took so long because even the BBC had to wait intil after the court hearing. Watch the programe and you will never go to Macdonalds again, ever. Their behavior is even sicker than their products. http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/trial/story.html Dennis >This was shown here last month. It took so long because even the BBC >had to wait intil after the court hearing. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Dennis I really don't like my burgers dipped in salt. It's no wonder other foods start to taste bland in comparison. > >>Sorry I'm piggybacking... > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Oh I am SOOOO jealous. Europe is definitely on my list of places to travel > next. The last thing I'll be doing though is going to McDonalds. lol Actually, Mcdonalds are great (dependably clean restrooms) and cheap place to get a drink (some even sell beer) If you can travel last minute.......Air Transat has some great deals to Europe.......Last year I went to Munich round trip for 800 U.S. out of Toronto, could have gone to Dublin this yeat in July for 400 RT. (It was really tempting) > Christine >> >>Sorry I'm piggybacking... >> >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > was > really tempting) Well had I not taken in a roommate that mooched off me for over a month, that might have been feasible. I thought to myself, well it's not a boyfriend, it'll be someone who can be there for my sons, we're friends, he makes good money, it'll be a good thing. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Suddenly he didn't have work or any savings and started eating my food. So I went through MY savings, he wasn't getting paid for a week and now I'm having to pick up a second job to recover. So suffice it to say, I changed the locks and gave him notice. He can make arrangements to pick up his things after I get what's owed. Oh when will I ever learn??? Christine > >> >>Sorry I'm piggybacking... > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Christine Well when you do....I would highly recommend Ireland as a starter for Europe..........take the boys.....stay in the B&B's they are really family friendly........plus you will see families in the pubs at night ;-) >Well when you do....I would highly recommend Ireland as a starter for >Europe..........take the boys.....stay in the B&B's they are really >family friendly........plus you will see families in the pubs at night ;-) B&B? Come and stay with Dennis and Freddie instead, much more fun! We will still get to see the pubs. >>Well when you do....I would highly recommend Ireland as a starter for >>Europe..........take the boys.....stay in the B&B's they are really [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > B&B? Come and stay with Dennis and Freddie instead, much more fun! We > will still get to see the pubs. Oh wow don't tempt me! I stayed with a friend when I went to Oz... you sure learn more about a place when you stay with a local. lol It was both educational and frustrating dealing with cultural differences. ;) But hey, I learned how to drive on the left side and I picked up Aussie slang in no time. If I can get some savings under my belt this summer, I'll definitely consider it. The only thing that's absolutely scandalous, is I don't drink beer. Still want me? lmao Christine > > "Denanson" <wongiewosser@eircom.net> wrote in message > news:1122317484.992639.266280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> P. Fritz Jul 22, 7:08 pm wrote >> >> >> >>>Well when you do....I would highly recommend Ireland as a starter for >>>Europe..........take the boys.....stay in the B&B's they are really >>>family friendly........plus you will see families in the pubs at night >>>;-) >> >> B&B? Come and stay with Dennis and Freddie instead, much more fun! We >> will still get to see the pubs. > > Oh wow don't tempt me! I stayed with a friend when I went to Oz... you sure > learn more about a place when you stay with a local. lol It was both > educational and frustrating dealing with cultural differences. ;) But hey, > I learned how to drive on the left side and I picked up Aussie slang in no > time. If I can get some savings under my belt this summer, I'll definitely > consider it. The only thing that's absolutely scandalous, is I don't drink > beer. Well, there is always Jameison's (sp?) or Busmills :-) >Still want me? lmao > > Christine > > >Well had I not taken in a roommate that mooched off me for over a month, >that might have been feasible. I thought to myself, well it's not a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the locks and gave him notice. He can make arrangements to pick up his >things after I get what's owed. Oh when will I ever learn??? ((((Christine)))) People who take advantage suck. A lot of the reason why we let them is because we're raised to be "nice girls". There is a way out of that. I'm sorry he was a shithead. 'Kate > >Well had I not taken in a roommate that mooched off me for over a month, > >that might have been feasible. I thought to myself, well it's not a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > 'Kate Don't be so sexist :-) Guys get taken advantage of too!!! On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:48:00 -0400, "P. Fritz" <pfritz@NOSPAMvoyager.net> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: > Guys get taken advantage of too!!! So? What's that got to do with what I said? >> >Well had I not taken in a roommate that mooched off me for over a month, >> >that might have been feasible. I thought to myself, well it's not a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Don't be so sexist :-) Guys get taken advantage of too!!! Yeah I have to deal with that alot too. You start dating someone and they have so much baggage from previous relationships that it irks me. I have never taken advantage of anyone in my entire life, yet I feel like I'm having to prove to men that I'm genuinely a good person. I mean Jesus, I could have taken my ex-fiancé to the cleaners. Gotten part of his pension, his car, even had him take responsibility for my children but I told my lawyer no. I only wanted things split evenly, anything more wasn't right, and he looked at me like I was insane. lol I could turn to the dark side, date men, use them, marry for money but you know what? I was raised better and I don't want my children being brought up with the expectation that that's normal. So instead I struggle, I get hurt, but at least I can look at myself in the mirror every morning and like what's looking back at me. So NAH :P Christine >Yeah I have to deal with that alot too. You start dating someone and they >have so much baggage from previous relationships that it irks me. I have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Christine Yeah. NAH. :P You are a genuinely good person. 'Kate >>Yeah I have to deal with that alot too. You start dating someone and they >>have so much baggage from previous relationships that it irks me. I have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 'Kate Awwwww thanks Kate. Christine >>Well had I not taken in a roommate that mooched off me for over a month, >>that might have been feasible. I thought to myself, well it's not a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > 'Kate Yeah where do you draw the line between giving someone the benefit of the doubt, and being so guarded, you don't believe a word? So many people talk the talk and it drives me nuts. I'm becoming quite jaded. Christine >Yeah where do you draw the line between giving someone the benefit of the >doubt, and being so guarded, you don't believe a word? So many people talk >the talk and it drives me nuts. I'm becoming quite jaded. I think you draw it differently depending on how well and how long you know that person. I also ask myself, "would a reasonable person ask this of me knowing my situation?" And if it doesn't seem fair and I wouldn't do it, I politely decline the request. Some people are moochers. They've learned to do that 'cause it works a lot of the time... and if not, they haven't lost anything. The person they ask might, though. It's not good to let moochers continue to mooch. They have to learn to take care of their own emergencies (including kids who constantly forget things). The repercussions will usually straighten out the behavior. Letting the repercussions happen is often a kindness to that person... saying no is good for you and the moocher. At least, that's how I think of it. And when I can help because I want to do something nice... I think of the people who have done something nice for me or who I really think are trying hard to make things better for their families. 'Kate >>Yeah where do you draw the line between giving someone the benefit of the >>doubt, and being so guarded, you don't believe a word? So many people talk [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > 'Kate Yeah enabling is something I try hard to avoid, especially in my own children. The last thing I want is for them to grow up becoming dependent, a mother that killed them with kindness. Christine |
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