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Sad story of what cps can do to a family

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billy f - 30 Dec 2004 20:28 GMT
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/06/features-fremon.php
Kane - 31 Dec 2004 05:53 GMT
Sad story of what family can do to a child.

http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_363194149.html

And if you go, "oh, it was a boyfriend?"

Know that greegor's personal story is about being a boyfriend claiming
he was "family."

Yep, yet another "family" with boyfriend.

http://www.nj.com/news/times/mercer/index.ssf?/base/news-14/1104404754243881.xml

And there is no end to the abuses by parents. And many, if not most,
are claimed as having happened because the parent was disciplining the
child. Somehow it got out of hand.

Not funny.

Kane
Fern5827 - 04 Jan 2005 22:35 GMT
One of the most poignant parts of the story is when the police pointed their
guns at the children.

Nothing like brandishing a 9mm around in front of kids.

LOS ANGELES, DCFS, CPS, FAMILY LAW, PAROLE, DRUG OFFENSES
Kane - 05 Jan 2005 01:48 GMT
> One of the most poignant parts of the story is when the police pointed their
> guns at the children.
>
> Nothing like brandishing a 9mm around in front of kids.

Interesting comment. I saw that too. I wondered immediately how she
would know it was a "9er" and not a .40 SW? In LA the police are
usually armed with a Glock Model 22 or 23, in .40 SW. Or .45 auto. And
they legally have the 14 and 16 round magazines as well.

More powerful round, more firepower in number of rounds.

But she called it a 9mm, the arm of choice for Homies...interesting
indeedy.

I've heard some LAPD do carry 9s, but surely not into a drug raid. That
would be suicide if there were armed perps inside. Just not enough
stopping power in a 9er.

By the way, Neal, why don't you ring up the cops in LA and insist they
go unarmed on drug raids until they have gone in and determined there
are armed people inside. Then they can go back out and arm themselves.

Heck, why bother even with body armor. Don't we pay them to die for us?

Seems fair, no?
> LOS ANGELES, DCFS, CPS, FAMILY LAW, PAROLE, DRUG OFFENSES

Kane
Greegor - 26 Jan 2005 23:29 GMT
The cops have to "draw down" on little kids
in order to protect them from abusive parents?
Kane - 27 Jan 2005 00:16 GMT
> The cops have to "draw down" on little kids
> in order to protect them from abusive parents?

Let's see now.

Can we hope your stupidity is based on you not reading the actual
article cited by Ferneal, I think it was, that opened this thread?

"
"Mom! What's going on?" whispers Estephanie urgently and without
preface when Frances snatches up the receiver. Frances explains about
the police raid, and about DCFS showing up. "The police were looking
for drugs," says Frances.
"

Notice that last line?

Then the women goes on to whine about how awful it was for the police
to point guns at the kids.

Let's think our way through this, greegor. Get at least three friends
to assist each other in stumblebum land.

It's a drug bust. Cops get shot while going into drug houses on a raid.
So cops armor up, and they do, really they do, draw their guns before
going through the door.

I believe the youngest kid to ever shot a cop in recent times was about
nine...and during, you guessed it, a drug raid in domicile.

I'd say yes, I want my cops coming out later alive. So yes, I want them
to point guns threateningly. Very. I want them to yell, and give harsh
loud orders, and I really don't care if someone is traumatized, as long
as the yelling, ordering and gun pointing is effective enough for
everyone to come out alive.

Yah know how people die in those raids? Not by the cops bringing guns,
but by some fool inside opening up on them. The way in which they enter
is designed to diminish the chances of that. Coming in slowly, and
quietly, and with guns in holsters is much more likely to encourage a
set up down some dark hallway, and lead flies, through walls too, into
rooms with kiddies in them.

A loud yell or two, some screamed commands, and the sight of a big bore
handgun, (I prefer nothing under .40) bearing down on you tends to
spoil the hell out of your aim, if you are a badguy. In fact it tends
to discourage you from aiming at all, but rather setting that piece
down nice and easy like.

You are really better off at work, dummer. You aren't doing too well
today, are you?

Kane
Greegor - 27 Jan 2005 01:07 GMT
If it's so dangerous, why don't they arrest them outside?
David Koresh was out on a shooting range with
a law enforcement officer just days before the
standoff began, and he often went into town to
buy supplies.    He could have been arrested
at any of those times but he was not.

Great strategy.
 
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