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Dan - 18 Jul 2006 09:20 GMT
This was I scene I recently saw at a theme park...

just after a ride on the waverunner yesterday, I heard a bit of a
commotion, and when I looked it was a 9 or 10 yr old kid who's mum was
attempting to drag him onto the ride - The poor kid obviously didn't
want to go on it (he was screaming, and his mum was really dragging him
around). She then started hitting him - cuffing him round the ear, and
smacking him.

His dad then came along, whacked him again and they both dragged him
off somewhere else.

Just judging by this brief episode, I thought it looked as if the kid
had some form of mild-moderate autism (going on his mannerisms, and how
he sounded)

:(
dessi - 20 Jul 2006 01:46 GMT
> This was I scene I recently saw at a theme park...
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>
> :(
sounds to me like the parents were the ones who needed the smacking.
the athorities at the theme park should have gotten involved.
the first rule of parenting is to let the child make SOME of its own
decisions or the child will resint the parent or parents as it gets
older
Greegor - 21 Jul 2006 05:53 GMT
Dan and Dessi:

How old are you and where in the UK did you go to
grade school?

How could you have such delicate sensibilities
if you were handled so rough as a kid in school?

You referred to a child as "it".

Are you for real?

What kind of education and job do you have?

Greg in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, USA

> > This was I scene I recently saw at a theme park...
> >
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> decisions or the child will resint the parent or parents as it gets
> older
0:-> - 21 Jul 2006 09:10 GMT
> Dan and Dessi:
>
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> Greg in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, USA

Why are you asking all this personal question stuff, Greg? Do you need
it to give them advice?

As for your continued ignorance of our mutual language, English, the
phrase "it was a 9 or 10 yr old kid" refers not to the child, but he
preceding, "commotion."

As in, "It, the commotion, turned out to be a child of about 9 or 10."

And as usual you miss the point. The child might have suffered from a
mild form of Autism. We label it here as  Aspergers Syndrome. It is
marked by poor social skills, easy dis tractability, an unnatural
concern and agitation about one's on body, and similar tics and twitches.

http://www.aspergerssyndrome.net/

" Many Asperger sufferers have a difficult time in planning and coping
with change despite average or above-average intelligence. This
manifests itself as a notable lack of ‘common sense’. There are many
nuances to how this disorder affects the lives of those afflicted as
well as the lives of their families.

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the
disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked
deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or
changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may
be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest.

They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body
language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty
determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes,
smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain
foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see.

It's important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world
very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are
due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional
rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of "improper
parenting".

The name "Asperger" comes from Hans Asperger, an Austrian physician who
first described the syndrome in 1944. "

Spanking is usually not recommended. 0:->

While I don't agree with the poster than mentioned smacking the parents,
the point and sentiments were well taken.

It would have been more effective if the kid hit the parents than the
parents hit the kid.

Aspergers makes it pointless to a great degree to spank and should be
outlawed legally. It is extreme cruelty to hit someone whose nervous
system is so highly reactive to stimuli as a victim of Aspergers.

Of course I have this silly notion that children are by their very
nature, more sensitive and reactive than adults, generally.

I almost think I have found an argument for it in that I can sock an
adult pretty hard and not break anything but if I hit the child that
hard, I most assuredly WOULD break something.

Silly me.

Children different? Naw, we can assault them without harm. No problem.

0;->

>>> This was I scene I recently saw at a theme park...
>>>
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>> decisions or the child will resint the parent or parents as it gets
>> older

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Greegor - 28 Jul 2006 09:28 GMT
Kane, what's so personal about asking a Brit about
their rough and tumble school days in relation to
them having rather delicate sensibilities?

Were the Brits just your socks Kane?
Survivors of British schools yet such delicate sensibilities?   Odd.
How did they get to be such milquetoasts?

> Dan and Dessi:
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> > decisions or the child will resint the parent or parents as it gets
> > older
0:-> - 28 Jul 2006 16:48 GMT
> Kane, what's so personal about asking a Brit about
> their rough and tumble school days in relation to
> them having rather delicate sensibilities?

What isn't?

> Were the Brits just your socks Kane?

I don't post socks.

> Survivors of British schools yet such delicate sensibilities?   Odd.

You seem to be doing just what I suspect you were going to, and so asked
the question I did. Insult. Harassment.

> How did they get to be such milquetoasts?

Yes, I was right, wasn't I?

You simply wished to indulge yourself again in innuendo and rudeness
because YOU are such a poor specimen of human being.

I wouldn't want our cousins across the Atlantic to think you are any
kind of example of Americans, and especially parents here, since you
aren't one at all.

I notice you avoided the more important issues I brought up to focus on
this minor aside, though.

Why is that I wonder?

And do you really think "Brits" are weaklings or inept?

Should we add the English to your prejudice repertoire now? Along with
"Queers," "Children who lie about being abused," and whatever races you
happen to secretly hold in disdain?

0:->

>> Dan and Dessi:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>>> decisions or the child will resint the parent or parents as it gets
>>> older

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