Family Forum / Parenting / Spanking / December 2006

Depends on what you mean by "black."

And what has that to do with long dead African queen's of the lower Nile?

Yep. No big deal.

Rapists? Did the also shower little girls?

So there you go.

Think so? What's your proof?

I believe we all have "black" ancestry. So far no credible evidence has
arisen that shows humankind originating anywhere else on the planet but
the African continent.

We like to f.ck, stupid.

Hate? Why would you think I hate them. Wantonness isn't a bad word,
Greg. Rape is, but there you do...we've done a lot of it. Ask your black
neighbors. I'd bet they would discuss the issue with you in regards to
the time of slavery of Africans in this country.

Okay.

You an expert on female sexuality now, Greg?

I've known a lot of women that get 'turned on' by stable responsible men.

The entire country, mostly. I used to kid my Polish buddy in the Air
Force, about getting sunburned. We were in Hawaii and used to body surf
alot along the windward coast of Oahu.

He'd turn purple if he got to much sun. Want to guess what race he was
labeled at, though I called him Polish? His name, in fact, was Poland.

I grew up around black people. Rather hard to get all worried about
"blacks" when you know so many so well. I don't recall, as a kid, really
noticing.

You are unaware that if a person has enough genetic African ancestry for
it to show phenotypically they will be labeled as "Black" in this country?

Oh, let me see now. Police blotters, hospital records, newspaper and TV
medium reporters.

It would be silly to try and quote even a few instances where a person
is referred to as "black," in this country, Greg.

Even black people call themselves black. Goes with the territory. As
long as a people are set aside as "different," from other people, as a
group, they will identify as that group.

Without the larger group definition they tend to think of themselves as
people.

Do you know what the Navajo call themselves in their own language? The
People. Navajo came about by others labeling them.

Yes. She has been indoctrinated by the larger society. That's why the
children, black children, picked the white doll over the black doll as
the "best one, or good one."

I find it sad, and wish I'd been into another time where this didn't go
on. No child think they are less than others because they are defined by
a "group" that shares some characteristics. In consequential ones at that.

It removes from them the humanity they share with everyone. It's cruel,
and inhuman.

But they don't. It's not a 'might,' Greg. This experiment done 50 years
apart came out by percentage exactly the same.

Do you really think a Nordic child would pick, if asked to pick the
"best one," a black dolly at the same percentage black children picked
the white dolly?

Sometimes is dog sh.t. You smoke it. I'm not the least interested.

The definition of people FIRST by their secondary characteristics,
rather than their humanity and it's common sharing is the sickness that
one day will kill us all.

You are lying to yourself, little bigot, just to preserve your
superiority, in your own mind.

But you'll go on denying race.

Dan and I share a common ethic characteristic. Once upon a time in this
country we were not served in "polite" establishments...like bars and
taverns. We couldn't rent or buy in certain areas reserved for the
non-Irish.

Today this still exists for others, not he or I.

Internationally oriented, and you can't figure out the marks of racism
left on children?

Are you as much a threat to humanity internationally as you are here.

Well, surely the mom did that to herself in defiance of .... well, what?

People hate themselves because they are inferior and bad, Greg?

Bad genes?

Bad culture?

Or could it be they grew in a bad society that deliberately portrayed
them as, and treated them as, less than human.

And YOU are assuming the mom told her she couldn't be a princess.

It's more likely it happened in school around a school play casting parts.

Most black mothers would not, as most mothers would not, load up a kid
with that kind of baggage, hers or anyone else's.

But imagine trying to explain to your black child who comes home from
school and asks you why the teacher, or other children told her that
(the last is THE most likely, Greg...stop blaming people).

What do you say to her?

Go ahead, give us a sample.

"Go take a shower," possibly?

"Pay no attention?"

No, Greg the first lesson for a black child on the subject of racism is
just a tad tougher than that. Be glad you don't have to figure out how
to maintain emotional balance with the child and yet tell them an entire
population, much larger than your own group, hates and despises people
like you.

I personally can't figure out what to say. Maybe cry a whole lot.

Do I teach my child to hate the bigots?

Do I teach them to ignore?

There's some serious dichotomy in telling a child either.

Either can lead to injury. Serious injury.

Haven't you ever thought about these things before?

I started when someone called my playmates, I was about 7 maybe younger,
"dirty little pickaninies." That nice old lady that was so usually kind
to me wanted to know why mother let me play with them.

She whispered it to me in this most hate filled shaky hissing kind of
voice...nothing like she usually spoke to me. She was trembling she was
so offended.

She scared me.

Hell, we were playing cars in the dirt. I was probably dirtier than
them. But my little eyes were sure opened. When I told my mom, her
response was, "Well, that poor thing." Somehow I sensed exactly what she
meant.

To this day I still think of her as "that poor thing." In fact I think
of racist bigots that way quite a lot. And I'm still curious what makes
them tick.

My playmate's mom midwifed both my little brothers. One is named for her
husband.

Don't you have anything to examine the real world with, Greg, or is it
that important to you, emotionally, to remain ignorant of so much?

Happy New Year, may it be a time of new learning for you.