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byrde123@mybluelight.com - 16 Aug 2007 03:31 GMT
My ex and I have been divorced for 20 plus years.  His on again and
off again girlfriend is main reason we split up.  She gave him
ultimatum, her or me and the boys (3). Chose her.  They never married,
cause he bit the crap out of her one night, which he had been doing to
me for the 15 years we were married.  We are now about to have our
first grandchild and she is once more fully in his life.  This is her
cycle, he even re-married once and she didn't want him until he was
going to get married.  He re-married and she ruined that too.  I have
no use for this woman.....He is retiring end of Sept and moving in
with her (just as friends, yeah, right, like how silly to still be
pretending they aren't sleeping together, who cares?)  My grandbaby
will now be going over to Grandpa's house, and she'll be right there
all trying to be "The Grandma"  She pulls this crap all the time.  He
has no back-bone when it comes to her, she leads him around with a
ring through his nose.  I can just sit down and cry to think that my
little grandboy will be held and cuddled by this woman, she has 5 or 6
of her own grandchildren.  I'm not jealous, I just hate the woman.
She makes my skin crawl.  My daughter-in-law's mom feels same way,
especially after the girlfriend totally took over the baby shower we
just had for the baby.  You really would have thought that she was
going to be the new grandmother.........she's so fake, she's so
sickingly sweet........I know I have to just swallow it, anyone have
any advice?   I sent my ex a couple of pretty nasty e-mails about how
I feel about all this crap...which should start WWII, my son says,
"Can't we just all get along?"  Nope.  She has tried to steal my son's
affections from me, she was good enough to take my husband and destroy
my family, but she's never married him, never wants him until he wants
someone or something else.  HELP!!!!!!  Any comfort or suggestions on
handling this would be a great help.  On top of this I have the guilt
that I call my self a Christian and I am sure having the most un-
Christian feelings toward this woman.  Should just let it go, but,
it's harder to do than it is to say.....Thanks!!!!!
WhansaMi - 16 Aug 2007 17:41 GMT
> My ex and I have been divorced for 20 plus years.  His on again and
> off again girlfriend is main reason we split up.  She gave him
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> someone or something else.  HELP!!!!!!  Any comfort or suggestions on
> handling this would be a great help.

IMO, it doesn't so much matter what you think or feel, but how you behave.
From what you have written, your son feels torn and in the middle.  What do
you want him to do?  Tell his dad that he can't see the grandchild?  He
probably won't, and, if he did, he would blame you for it.

I have two adult stepdaughters.  In the last eight months or so, I've become
quite close with one of them.  She has frequently told me how much she
appreciates me never putting down her mother,  and how she resents her
mother for putting her in the middle.

You don't have to act as if she is your best friend.  I'm pretty sure
everyone has the message that you don't think much of her.  But, for your
son's sake, you can *behave* with decorum, even if you don't feel it.  No
more e-mails, unless it is one that says "I was in a bad mood.  I want
<insert son's name> to be happy.  I'm sorry."

Yes, she will function as another grandmother.  Your getting angry and nasty
about it is only going to make your son less likely to want to be around
you, and therefore, more likely to make her look good by comparison.

Sheila
Vicki Robinson - 16 Aug 2007 17:47 GMT
In a previous article, "WhansaMi" <WhansaMi@verizon.net> said:

>Yes, she will function as another grandmother.  Your getting angry and nasty
>about it is only going to make your son less likely to want to be around
>you, and therefore, more likely to make her look good by comparison.

I think she knows that, though, from reading the original message.  I think
she's looking for coping tips; she knows what she has to do, she just wants to
do it without throwing up!

One thing that might help is to remember that, as sickeningly sweet as she is,
a baby can't have too much cuddling or loving.  If she acts as a caring and
responsible grandmother, then it's good for the baby, even if it makes your
teeth hurt.  Just keep remembering that.  It's good for your grandson.  You
have to love him more than you hate her.

And as one practicing Christian to another, a couple of quiet minutes of
meditation a day asking for serenity and understanding might do you a world of
good. Taize music makes a good background for that.

Vicki

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"I'm just a bad Christian.  A bad born-again Christian.  And certainly, like
the apostle Peter, I am capable of denying it, of presenting myself as a sort
of leftist liberation-theology enthusiast and maybe sort of a vaguely Jesusy
bon vivant.  But it's not true"  --Anne Lamott

WhansaMi - 16 Aug 2007 18:17 GMT
> In a previous article, "WhansaMi" <WhansaMi@verizon.net> said:
>
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> wants to
> do it without throwing up!

Except, she either doesn't know it, or doesn't act on it, because she wrote
not one, but multiple e-mails to the ex-husband.  So, in either case, I
think it bears repeating.

Sheila
WhansaMi - 16 Aug 2007 18:20 GMT
> Except, she either doesn't know it, or doesn't act on it, because she
> wrote not one, but multiple e-mails to the ex-husband.  So, in either
> case, I think it bears repeating.
>
> Sheila

Oops, and I meant to add:

and she wrote:
>>>my son says, "Can't we just all get along?"  Nope.  >>>

which says to me she doesn't intend on making life easier for him.

Sheila
byrde123@mybluelight.com - 18 Aug 2007 02:27 GMT
> > Except, she either doesn't know it, or doesn't act on it, because she
> > wrote not one, but multiple e-mails to theex-husband.  So, in either
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>
> Sheila

I actually way over reacted to this situation.  In retrospect, I know
that writing those e-mails were wrong, I have apologized, I actually
told him not to read those....he hadn't as of yet.  Which is a good
thing.  She's treated my kids well, we actually get along all right.
It was just a bad day, a bad situation, I have not made it hard on my
son, ever, about this girlfriend.  I actually get along with her
fairly well.  I don't know what happened to me, I just went a little
crazy.  A little bit of "old" jealousy raising it's ugly head.  For
the most part we actually do all get along tolerable well.  I just had
a bad day, I have a wonderful life now and a beautiful 17 year old son
with my husband of 18 years.  So, what my problem was, I don't know.
I just went crazy or something.  I'm ashamed of myself and will not be
repeating such childish and immature actions again.  Thanks everyone
for your imput.
WhansaMi - 18 Aug 2007 03:58 GMT
>> > Except, she either doesn't know it, or doesn't act on it, because she
>> > wrote not one, but multiple e-mails to theex-husband.  So, in either
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> repeating such childish and immature actions again.  Thanks everyone
> for your imput.

That sounds good. As the others have said, if you need to just gripe and
vent, better to do it someplace outside your real life, like here.  So, just
put "vent" in the headers, and I promise not to trounce you again.  :-)

Sheila
Nan - 16 Aug 2007 19:58 GMT
>My ex and I have been divorced for 20 plus years.  His on again and
>off again girlfriend is main reason we split up.  She gave him
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>cycle, he even re-married once and she didn't want him until he was
>going to get married.  He re-married and she ruined that too.

He participated in the ruination of that marriage, yes?

>I have
>no use for this woman.....He is retiring end of Sept and moving in
>with her (just as friends, yeah, right, like how silly to still be
>pretending they aren't sleeping together, who cares?)

Sorry, but it seems obvious that you DO care.  Perhaps not about sex
but that she's even in your ex's life.

> My grandbaby
>will now be going over to Grandpa's house, and she'll be right there
>all trying to be "The Grandma"  She pulls this crap all the time.  He
>has no back-bone when it comes to her, she leads him around with a
>ring through his nose.

And this is your business......how?

> I can just sit down and cry to think that my
>little grandboy will be held and cuddled by this woman, she has 5 or 6
>of her own grandchildren.

So, why can't she love your grandson too?

>I'm not jealous, I just hate the woman.

You're expending far too much energy on her.

>She makes my skin crawl.  My daughter-in-law's mom feels same way,
>especially after the girlfriend totally took over the baby shower we
>just had for the baby.  You really would have thought that she was
>going to be the new grandmother.........she's so fake, she's so
>sickingly sweet........I know I have to just swallow it, anyone have
>any advice?

Take back all the power over you that you're giving her!  The more
energy you spend griping about her, the more power she has.

But then... some people enjoy griping too much to give it up.

> I sent my ex a couple of pretty nasty e-mails about how
>I feel about all this crap...which should start WWII,

Hopefully your ex deleted them without reacting.  What do you expect
him to do?  He obviously wants this woman in his life.  Because of
that, she is in your son and grandson's life.  And by default, your
life.  Emailing your ex was pretty childish, IMO.

>my son says,
>"Can't we just all get along?"  Nope.

Then you care more for your own feelings than for your son or
grandson.

> She has tried to steal my son's
>affections from me, she was good enough to take my husband and destroy
>my family, but she's never married him, never wants him until he wants
>someone or something else

Uh, your ex destroyed your family when he met her.  You're so busy
blaming her you're failing to see his culpability in all this.  If
she's as bad as you say, she's your ex's problem, not yours.  Be glad
you're rid of him!

>  HELP!!!!!!  Any comfort or suggestions on
>handling this would be a great help.  On top of this I have the guilt
>that I call my self a Christian and I am sure having the most un-
>Christian feelings toward this woman.  Should just let it go, but,
>it's harder to do than it is to say.....Thanks!!!!!

I can't say anything about being a Christian and acting like one, but
I really think you need to work out your anger against her.  She's in
your life at the moment and it sounds like she'll be around for a
while.

Your divorce is 20 years ago, and your son wants peace in the family.
If you can't "let go" after all this time perhaps talking to a
professional would help?

Nan
byrde123@mybluelight.com - 17 Aug 2007 02:57 GMT
> >My ex and I have been divorced for 20 plus years.  His on again and
> >off againgirlfriendis main reason we split up.  She gave him
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>
> Nan

this is first time i ever posted or did something like this.  just
wanted to get an outside opinion...thanks for the input.  i really
over reacted to a situation that i do have no control over, nor do I
want any control over it.  going back to ex's house and with the girl
friend there just brought back alot of bad/sad memories.  actually, we
do have peace in the family and i can be childish and catty.  i react
sometimes and think later, which is what i did in this situation.  as
long as my little grandson is born healthy and whole, the more who
love him, the better off he'll be.  you can't be loved too much or by
too many people.  but, do appreciate the input.
Vicki Robinson - 17 Aug 2007 03:16 GMT
In a previous article, byrde123@mybluelight.com said:

>i react
>sometimes and think later, which is what i did in this situation.  as
>long as my little grandson is born healthy and whole, the more who
>love him, the better off he'll be.  you can't be loved too much or by
>too many people.  but, do appreciate the input.

I agree.  This is a good place to post rants, too, but if you label them
"rant" you'll get a lot less advice and a whole lot more understanding!

Congratulations on you new little grandbaby.

Vicki
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"I'm just a bad Christian.  A bad born-again Christian.  And certainly, like
the apostle Peter, I am capable of denying it, of presenting myself as a sort
of leftist liberation-theology enthusiast and maybe sort of a vaguely Jesusy
bon vivant.  But it's not true"  --Anne Lamott

byrde123@mybluelight.com - 18 Aug 2007 02:31 GMT
> In a previous article, byrde...@mybluelight.com said:
>
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> of leftist liberation-theology enthusiast and maybe sort of a vaguely Jesusy
> bon vivant.  But it's not true"  --Anne Lamott

It was nice having someplace to "get it off my chest".  This is where
I should have gone in the first place.  Griping or talking here isn't
hurting anyone, no one knows who I am here, so I hurt no one.  It was
nice to get input, good, bad, or otherwise.  Live and Learn!
Nan - 17 Aug 2007 12:55 GMT
>this is first time i ever posted or did something like this.  just
>wanted to get an outside opinion...thanks for the input.  i really
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>love him, the better off he'll be.  you can't be loved too much or by
>too many people.  but, do appreciate the input.

It's good to see you're more grounded about it than you sounded!
As Vicki stated, if you wish to Rant or Vent, just label the post and
we'll understand!

Nan
byrde123@mybluelight.com - 18 Aug 2007 02:38 GMT
> >this is first time i ever posted or did something like this.  just
> >wanted to get an outside opinion...thanks for the input.  i really
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>
> Nan

I must have sounded like a really horrible person, I re read and if I
heard someone talk like that, I would think they are quite loathsome.
I am sorry to have come across as such a nasty woman.  I'm actually
quite nice.  I didn't know about the  Rant/Vent.  I feel awful about
coming across as such a nasty person.  I honestly do not cause trouble
for my boys with this woman and what my ex does is his business.  It
has no effect on my life whatsoever.  I ranted to the wrong
person.....I really should have tried a friend or looked for someplace
like this first.  Thank You all for your input!
 
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