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Chris W - 28 Sep 2004 20:52 GMT
Hi, i'm a first time poster, but a here and there lurker,
I need to ask a question and hopefully get some opinions,
I just was wondering how easy or how hard it is for the husband to get
50/50 custody of a baby?
I ‘‘am’’ very happily married and not planning a divorce in
anyway, I have a 4 month old and I have a 7 yr SD that is here 50/50 BUT
it was an oral aggreement between the mom and him NOT the courts! and he
also has a 14 yr old that comes everyOTHER weekend,
BUT I just have these ‘‘what if ’’ feelings all the time..
is 50/50 granted automaticly to the husband or do you have to agree to
it.
what are the rules?
FWIW...) there are NO drugs or alcohol involved.) and we live in Pa.
this is my only child...

any opinions?

some tell me that is very hard for the husband to get 50/50..
some tell me it is just a givin?

I would just die to ever have to give her up to a SM.

I am a SM and I try to treat them as if they are mine, but it is very
hard because they have there own moms, well, any SM would understand.

TIA.

C
Vicki Robinson - 28 Sep 2004 21:42 GMT
In a previous article, chris_1547@webtv.net (Chris W) said:

>I would just die to ever have to give her up to a SM.

Every biomom here understands.  Some of us know what that feels like.

>I am a SM and I try to treat them as if they are mine, but it is very
>hard because they have there own moms, well, any SM would understand.

An awful lot depends on where you are, the family courts in your area.
Some are very progressive, and protective of fathers' rights, others
are not and cling to the notion that mothers are more important to
kids than fathers.

I would hope, however, that if you ever were divorced, you would
realize how extremely important fathers are to kids, and that you'd
want your child to have as much contact as possible with her dad.
It's your job to facilitate a good relationship between your child and
a separated Dad (and it's his job to facilitate the child's
relationship with you, too), and to do that you each have to love your
child more than you hate each other.

If a stepmother came into your child's life, remember that, since you
are a sane, involved and loving mother to your child, the stepmother
will never usurp your position as Mom.  Knowing that will allow you to
be generous with your child; it's *good* for your child to have
another adult woman who loves her.  If you are an effective coparent
with your child's father, then the stepmom isn't going to have to try
to fill your shoes.  She's the adult woman and authority figure in her
home, along with your child's father, but she's not your child's
mother, and she won't have to try to be.  She can be the person she
uniquely is, your child's stepmom; not inferior, or "fake" but with
her own position and value for your child.

If your husband wanted 50/50 and he's a good dad, you can be happy
that he wants to stay that involved.

Vicki
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* Calinda * - 28 Sep 2004 21:49 GMT
> If your husband wanted 50/50 and he's a good dad, you can be happy
> that he wants to stay that involved.
>
> Vicki

As much as it hurts to hand your child away to someone else (a step-
parent, for instance), I agree that 50/50 is what is best for the child
in most cases.  And I can tell you from personal experience, it is far
better to accept that, than to fight it.  

But no one will ever tell you it is easy.  Not in any way, shape or form.

You say you're not contemplating divorce, yet you're concerned about
potential custody.  I find that worriesome in a way.

Cal~
Chris W - 29 Sep 2004 17:05 GMT
You say you're not contemplating divorce, yet
you're concerned about potential custody. I find
that worriesome in a way.

Cal~

Nope... no divorce, I mean there are things that could use some ironing
out but I would never think about a divorce, we are older and I'm an
older first time mom and we BOTH been through so much out in that dating
feild.
and we remind each other everyday how happy we are to have met, actually
we knew each other for years,,,,who'da thunk it ???...LOL...so I just
dont think bein single is on either of our minds, BUT you never know
what a man is thinking...LOL...
but I'm just a worrier, I just wonder the ‘‘what if's’’ and even
wonder( what if) I would die.??
and being that he does get is 7 y/o 50/50, it makes me wonder if I would
ever face that...
but i dont dwell on it, i just wanted to know if it was automatically
granted..
rebecca - 28 Sep 2004 22:05 GMT
I ''am'' very happily married and not planning a divorce in

BUT I just have these ''what if '' feelings all the time..

================================

Well, I guess, first, stop borrowing trouble.  If you aren't having marital
problems, it doesn't matter what kind of custody your husband might get.

That being said, one full-time child, one half-time child and one visiting
child - holy cow, what a nice and stressful mix for you!  Is your husband
actively parenting?  I know that one of the things we juggle, with a 2 yo
and an almost 9 yo, is going from a single child to two regularly.  I
confess to the occasional twinge that my baby is losing some attention from
his dad, who is a very active parent to the almost 9 yo when he's here.  And
the 9 yo is very conscious of how I treat him, versus how I treat his
half-brother.  And then, with the age spread, it isn't like we can have them
do the same activity and stay all together, either.  So there's a lot of
handing off, and single parent-like stuff when both kids are home.  It can
be pretty stressful, compared to the days when it's just the 3 of us - mom,
dad, and baby.

I imagine you guys are always transitioning one way or another, so maybe
your divorce fantasy is a reflection of your wish for less turbulence?  And
your fear of a stepmom for your daughter, well, does that come from the hard
feelings you have about your stepkids sometimes?

The answer to your question is, if you divorced, you and your husband would
work something out, that reflected both your own needs, and the needs of the
baby.  If one or both of you couldn't do that, you would end up in court,
wasting your daughter's college fund, creating animosity that will take
years to dissipate (if ever), and probably ending up - both of you - pissed
off at the result.

Cynical, moi?

rebecca
* Calinda * - 28 Sep 2004 22:14 GMT
rebecca wrote in

> Cynical, moi?
>
> rebecca

I'd say realistic.

Cal~
Wendy - 29 Sep 2004 04:54 GMT
Hopefully for your sake and your child's you'll never have to find out.
:( I would imagine who gets custody would depend on the individual
situation? In my state the rarely award sole custody to the father, or
even 50/50 but they would definitely give the father visitation rights,
as in overnight stays during the week and every other weekend and
alternate holidays. It would absolutely, positively drive me nuts to
have to give my child over to spend time with some other woman but I
guess people must anticipate that a situation like that might arise when
they get divorced. Obviously that's not the issue here but it's probably
best not to worry about it.

Wendy
Cornhuskeress - 29 Sep 2004 05:38 GMT
> Hopefully for your sake and your child's you'll never have to find
> out. :( I would imagine who gets custody would depend on the
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>
> Wendy

Where I live, 50/50 custody is pretty much the default unless one parent can
prove the other shouldn't have that much custody or the parents agree to
something else. Our situation is probably one of the most acrimonious ever
to exist between the bioparents. I would seriously only suggest 50/50 to
parents who can get along - otherwise it is just hell for everyone involved,
including the kid.

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Chris W - 29 Sep 2004 15:07 GMT
My DH has 50/50 of his 7 y/o old, as I said before it was not a court
order,
she, the ‘‘ex’’ has a drug problem, and he could'nt actually
‘‘prove’’ it I guess, but he wanted her at least 50% he wanted
Full 100% but he was too afraid of losing and just getting the week-end
thing, so he jumped at 50% when she agreed...
But, ‘‘for the child’’ and I guess every situation is different,
but from what I see, she is not stable at all,
she does not know where her home is.
she can never say ‘‘i'm going home’’ its always ‘‘i'm going
to my moms’ or visa-versa...
we live in a new housing develoment with tons of kids, and she made tons
of friends, and in the summer (we have a pool) she loves to swim with
the neighbor kids, well, when Monday morning comes she has to go to her
moms for the next week, ( well actually, its split up ) few days on few
days off, but there is a five day stretch. but the point is that she
1. misses her mom.
2. misses her friends, ( from either place )
3 if she is sick, she cant say ‘‘i want to stay home’’
they drag her around if she is sick, she could have a temp of 102...and
her parents would still make her ‘‘go’’ because its their day!
Plus there are so many more emotional probs. i see in her,

Now, the other girl 14, y/o...
DH, quite the stud!...LMAO!
is very easy, she comes here everOther week-end, enjoys her dad, she
calles him ll the time!! and she knows where her home is, she knows this
is here home too! but at the same time she has a stable ‘‘home’’
does anyone know what I'm trying to say???
lol.

I sometimes do think in the ‘‘long run’’ it just might be better
for the child.
I just know that I would not have liked that, but then again I am a very
stable person, ie. same bedtime everynight, same pillow, etc, I dont do
well with ‘‘change’’
Wendy - 29 Sep 2004 18:44 GMT
> But, ''for the child'' and I guess every situation is different,
> but from what I see, she is not stable at all,
> she does not know where her home is.
> she can never say ''i'm going home'' its always ''i'm going
> to my moms' or visa-versa...

How long has this been going on?  My two daughters live half the week with
me and half the week with their father.  They think of both places as home,
though they do say my Mum's or my Dad's to differentiate so friends and
others don't call the wrong phone number or go to the wrong house.  A lot of
their successful adjustment though is that my ex and I both doing our best
to be flexible and positive about the arrangements.

My youngest daughter who was 4 when we split up said "we'll be one happy
family but with two houses" and that's what we've tried to achieve as best
we can.

Sure there are aspects of it which are tedious, like managing possessions,
lots of going back and forth between dwellings if you forget something
important, and sometimes having to delay follow through on consequences
until they return to your dwelling.  There are aspects which are definite
advantages too, like contact with both parents from which children get an
enhanced sense of security and this often results in better educational
performance.

My girls have adjusted to it very well and like the variety and the sense
that they belong in both homes, and aren't just visiting one which some of
their peers who are also dealing with divorce and separation feel about
weekend visiting with one parent.

> 1. misses her mom.
> 2. misses her friends, ( from either place )
> 3 if she is sick, she cant say ''i want to stay home''
> they drag her around if she is sick, she could have a
> temp of 102...and her parents would still make her '
> 'go'' because its their day!

But if she were at one dwelling more consistently she'd probably
miss the other parent, and not get the chance to develop or sustain
the relationship with them and have their involvement in all aspects of her
growing up, good and bad.

> Plus there are so many more emotional probs. i see in her,

Compared with what?  Compared with children in a non-divorce setting, or
compared with children in a setting where they live with one parent and
either don't see the other one or have limited access to them (e.g. at
weekends)?

> but at the same time she has a stable ''home''
> does anyone know what I'm trying to say???

So the sense of stability isn't coming from the arrangements, but rather the
individula child?

> I just know that I would not have liked that, but then again I
> am a very stable person, ie. same bedtime everynight, same
> pillow, etc, I dont do well with ''change''

But how much of that is learned behaviour and how much of that is inherent
personality?  My girls hate change in their rooms, cling to old posessions,
yet when we've talked about changing the arrangements have been emphatic
that they like the way things are, even though there's a lot of variety in
their day to day routines.

Wendy T
 
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