I am the parent of a 19 yr. old son that basically dropped out of high
school with a special diploma a year ago,works part time and nets
$400/month.
I'm trying to motivate him to look for a full time job, but he only has a
bicycle for transportation(excuse on his part). However, my wife and I
agreed to pick him up and/or drop him off from work when necessary(e.g.
foul weather).
He states that he's comfortable with the money he makes and has what he
perceives as enough cash to get along at home.
When not working, he sleeps 10-11 hrs. a day and with his free time; he
watches TV, plays with freinds and surfs the net. He does no chores when
asked or he'll only do them when "he" is ready. Regardless, an argument
occurs 90% of the time once something is asked of him (e.g.clear
dishwasher, mow lawn, clean his bathroom and room,put his stuff away,
etc...).My wife and I eventually do them ourselves to avoid a massive
argument with him and ultimate anxiety.
I want to make things a little uncomfortable for him(less free cash)in
attempts to get him used to full time work. I also want him to recognize
the value of money and the need to save as well. I also would like him to
understand that he'll pay R&B, especially since he's giving nothing of
himself back. He pays for nothing at home with the exception of his
clothing and he's not saving any money for a car or motorcycle as well.
Please give me some suggestions in reference to how I should approach this
with him, how much money or what percentage should I charge him and any
other senario(s)you might suggest to address the issues. We don't need his
money and are thinking of setting up a savings account for him on the
QT.Good start out of the box when he leaves home:IF HE EVER WILL.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Earl
R. Steve Walz - 10 Apr 2004 01:21 GMT
> I am the parent of a 19 yr. old son that basically dropped out of high
> school with a special diploma a year ago,works part time and nets
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>
> Earl
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Does this "special" diploma mean "retarded", or what?
If so he's doing well.
If not then specify and ASK AGAIN.
Steve
Jacques Michel - 14 Apr 2004 07:57 GMT
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> He states that he's comfortable with the money he makes and has what he
> perceives as enough cash to get along at home.
> When not working, he sleeps 10-11 hrs. a day
That seems quite high. It might be a symptom of depression. Then
again, it may not, but you should have it checked.
and with his free time; he
> watches TV, plays with freinds and surfs the net. He does no chores when
> asked or he'll only do them when "he" is ready. Regardless, an argument
> occurs 90% of the time once something is asked of him (e.g.clear
> dishwasher, mow lawn, clean his bathroom and room,put his stuff away,
> etc...).My wife and I eventually do them ourselves to avoid a massive
> argument with him and ultimate anxiety.
If that is him who gets anxiety, that is another sign of depression.
In that case, both forcing him to do the chores and doing them
yourself are not optimal.
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WV Female - 14 Apr 2004 17:54 GMT
i want to start off by saying you sound like a good parent....... i
think you should have him checked for depression and anxiety.. if thats
the problem, get him on meds.. all meds dont work so the doctor may
have to keep changing them... if thats not the problem then maybe hes
disrespectful.. i think setting up him a savings account is a great
idea.. but use his money to do it.. dont charge him for living there
since he is your son but DO charge him for being his maid.. he may not
be ready to leave the nest but he can help support himself and he
should.. hes no longer a baby.. you would still be helping him and
teaching him to help himself at the same time... i dont think id let him
know about the savings account any time soon tho.. that would just cause
problems the first time he wanted to throw a big party or get some other
big idea of how to waste it..
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Ike4Kerry - 20 Apr 2004 22:08 GMT
> I am the parent of a 19 yr. old son that basically dropped out of high
> school with a special diploma a year ago,works part time and nets
> $400/month.
Err He earns $3.33 USD per hour??? This a sheltered workshop? Min. Hrly wage
is about $5.16 per hr. If this is a regular job He is OWED some money.
> I'm trying to motivate him to look for a full time job, but he only has a
> bicycle for transportation(excuse on his part). However, my wife and I
> agreed to pick him up and/or drop him off from work when necessary(e.g.
> foul weather).
Having a bike as main transit should not be a hindrance...
> He states that he's comfortable with the money he makes and has what he
> perceives as enough cash to get along at home.
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> etc...).My wife and I eventually do them ourselves to avoid a massive
> argument with him and ultimate anxiety.
Ok if he is going to do as he pleases when he pleases then he can help
Pay the bills.
Tread him as if you rented out his room to someone... Take your monthly
expenses and divide by 3. This is HIS rent... He pays for HIS phone &
internet as well as any non house hold expenses...
If he refuses then Request the house key and ask him to leave taking
ONLY what HE has purchased. So if EVERYTHING he owns has been bought
by you & is NOT a gift it stays. So if the only thing he has is the
clothes on his back so be it.... Drive him down to the local homeless
shelter and drop him off. Be sure to tell him you still love him & are
welcome home when he is ready to be a man not a child.
Option two... If he can pass the physical.... Take him down to the local
US Marine Recruiter...
Ike
Amy and Kevin - 21 Apr 2004 03:10 GMT
As Dr. Laura would say (lol) ... tell your son that in 6 months he will be
moving out. During that time you would expect him to secure a stable job,
put a down payment on an old beater for transport, and to find a buddy to
room with. And then make him move at the designated time. At first he may
flounder, as most first time "mover outters" do, but he will certainly come
to realize that he will have to rely on himself instead of mom or dad.(My
bro did and is still doing the same thing... my mom blames him, but I blame
her for allowing it)
> > I am the parent of a 19 yr. old son that basically dropped out of high
> > school with a special diploma a year ago,works part time and nets
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>
> Ike
DKMontoya - 29 Jun 2004 20:17 GMT
I am surmizing you live in the US -- if this is incorrect, please excuse my
answer. In the US, 18 is the legal age for signing contracts, voting,
etc. If you and your wife have agreed he should stay in your house, then
charge him rent, due and payable on a certain date, and sign a contract.
If he is late paying his rent and whatever utilities expenses you and your
son have agreed to share, then he will have 30 days to be evicted and to
pay any outstanding monies due you for his past-due rent, utilities, etc.
If you want your son to behave like an adult and if your son wishes to be
treated like an adult, then adult actions and consequences seem logical,
fair, and sound.
Ironfist5687 - 01 Jul 2004 22:40 GMT
>I am surmizing you live in the US -- if this is incorrect, please excuse my
>answer. In the US, 18 is the legal age for signing contracts, voting,
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>treated like an adult, then adult actions and consequences seem logical,
>fair, and sound.
Guess it all really depends on the parents and their own financial situation.
I know one guy who is 30 something and still living at home rent free. I know
another who is 28 and also living at home rent free. Both friends live in
Silicon Valley, CA with their wealth families. Then yet again I know others
who started living on their own when they were 17.
I would not charge a 18 year old rent if you can avoid it.
John
Mike Rosenberg - 02 Jul 2004 12:55 GMT
> John
So, John, I guess you forgot that you're pretending to be someone named
Kurt when you use this address.

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DKMontoya - 29 Jun 2004 20:17 GMT
I am surmizing you live in the US -- if this is incorrect, please excuse my
answer. In the US, 18 is the legal age for signing contracts, voting,
etc. If you and your wife have agreed he should stay in your house, then
charge him rent, due and payable on a certain date, and sign a contract.
If he is late paying his rent and whatever utilities expenses you and your
son have agreed to share, then he will have 30 days to be evicted and to
pay any outstanding monies due you for his past-due rent, utilities, etc.
If you want your son to behave like an adult and if your son wishes to be
treated like an adult, then adult actions and consequences seem logical,
fair, and sound.