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Some doctors can be so STUPID

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The Huwe Family - 15 Aug 2004 22:15 GMT
Ok.  I just have to say this.

My sons Andrew and Benjamin were sick this past week with vomiting and
diarrhea.  We took them to the emergency room 2x for it.  The ER docs gave
us some suppositories which were to help with the vomiting.  It worked for
Andy, but not for Ben.  A few days later we took Ben back because we were so
afraid of him getting dehydrated.  Too late.  They had trouble getting an IV
put in him.  They poked my 10 month old son 7 times (having the needle
rooting around in his arm each time) before they called in an
anesthesiologist to do it.  They ended up admitting my son for overnight
observation.  While the problems with the IV really bothered me, (he cried
but was too dehydrated for tears, so I cried for him.  The nurse was like
"don't cry mama, it's not your fault."  She obviously doesn't have children
to have that kind of attitude.  I knew it wasn't my fault, but it didn't
stop my heart from being torn out at my baby being in so much pain.) it
isn't why I am writing this.

It's like 2:00 in the morning at this point, the resident doc comes in to
ask some really stupid questions.  Questions to which she kept repeating
herself.  She asked me why I hadn't taken him in to see his regular doctor.
I told her that my son Andrew got sick first, and then Ben got sick the
following day.  I had called the doctor about it and his nurse thought it
was just the flu. I thought so too.  The resident looked at me like I was
stupid and said "It's NOT flu season."

Uh. .. HELLO . .. you can't tell me that children only get the flu during
"flu season."

I know I'm not a doctor, but that was really uncalled for.  I felt like
calling a supervisor and reporting her.  Of course, at that point, I was not
in a great mood about anything.

Thanks for listening.

Gayle
mom to Andy, Ben, Elena (9-24-03)
www.babiesonline.com/babies/d/datriplets/
Paula Johnson - 16 Aug 2004 14:34 GMT
>Uh. .. HELLO . .. you can't tell me that children only get the flu during
>"flu season."

That is so stupid! It's not "cold season" either, but I've heard of a
couple making their way around the area. I think it's a little
frightening that this person is a doctor, honestly. Wouldn't want him
taking care of my kids.

I hope Andy and Ben are feeling better.

--
Paula
Mom to Olivia and Cassie (b. 4/8/03 @ 26 weeks)
^Grace^ (b. 5/16/02 d. 5/17/02) and ^Adam^ (b/d. 5/17/02)
Megan Byrne - 16 Aug 2004 16:21 GMT
It might not be "cold" OR "flu" season, but there is a WHOLE group pf
"Summer" viruses that go around, including stomach viruses. We have all
been sick twice here this Summer with symptoms ranging from high fevers,
diarreha, sore throats, runny noses, etc. No vomiting, but that is
possible with viruses. That ER doc sounds like a dummy, but, IMO, ER
docs were not at the top of their class, KWIM??

I hope the boys are feeling better.

Megan~
Mommy to wonder twins
Aidan & Alexis....the countdown to 2 is on!
GemstoneTalent@c-my-sig.com - 16 Aug 2004 18:10 GMT
Many kids get illnesses from POOL WATER in the summer - esp ear infections
and diarrhea stemming from prior "pool potty accidents" of other kids.

Chlorine must be well regulated to provide optimum protection, but it takes
time for offending virus/bacteria to be killed - ergo pool closings due to
"brown-outs".  Brown outs in a diaper still release germs even if visible
signs are not present.

Gemstone Talent
www.GemTal.com
H Schinske - 16 Aug 2004 18:15 GMT
Gayle (thehuwes@ameritech.net) wrote:

>I told her that my son Andrew got sick first, and then Ben got sick the
>following day.  I had called the doctor about it and his nurse thought it
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>Uh. .. HELLO . .. you can't tell me that children only get the flu during
>"flu season."

Oh, good gosh. A medical resident who doesn't know the difference between
influenza and gastroenteritis? She needs a swift kick.

Incidentally, in the days before proper refrigeration, August would have been
the HEIGHT of the season for vomiting/diarrhea illnesses. As it is, we probably
get a few more in the winter now because of people being cooped up together in
cold weather (especially kids in school/daycare passing germs around), but it's
still something that happens year-round.

--Helen
The Huwe Family - 18 Aug 2004 13:33 GMT
Helen,

As it turns out, they labeled what he had as acute gastroenteritis.  They
ran lots of tests, including for rotavirus which they thought he had, but
couldn't find the cause, so that's what they labeled it.  The amazing thing,
was that both Andy and Ben got sick, but Elena never did. They eat the same
things, they chew on the same toys, I can't even stop them from sucking on
each other's bottles.

The whole thing was that this "doctor" was making me feel stupid for
something she should have felt stupid for saying.  My doctor's office even
thought that it could be the flu.

Thanks for listening :-)

Gayle
mom to Andy, Ben, Elena (9-24-03)

> Gayle (thehuwes@ameritech.net) wrote:
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> --Helen
GwenO MS - 21 Aug 2004 21:01 GMT
Yes, you SHOULD call the Director of the Residency program!  Yours could be the
one call among many that finally makes them speak to the doc and consider
making mention of the lack of bedside manner...these things DO matter -- my son
is now in a position to deal with residents and he WANTS to know how they are
perceived by patients (he deals with children in his practice and hospital)...
so you absolutely should be speaking to people who have the power to possibly
help this doctor become more 'people friendly' and save the next mom or dad
from being doubly hurt (once with a sick kid, secondly with a thoughtless
doctor).
Grandma Gwen
The Huwe Family - 23 Aug 2004 18:57 GMT
Gwen,

I ended up telling my doctor about it at my sons follow up appointment.  My
doctor was in charge of the residents the day after my son was admitted.  He
told me that the problem with a lot of the residents (and I really
appologize if this offends anyone reading this!!!) are from out of the
country, and haven't learned good bedside manners yet (according to U.S.
standards).  This resident WAS from out of the country, in fact had a strong
accent that I had a hard time understanding her questions.  That doesn't
excuse the attitude of this doctor, but I trust our family doc and know that
he will take the information where it needs to go.

Thank you for your response.  I normally would have let it pass, unless I
received a "quality questionnaire" that the hospital sends out, then I would
have said something on that.

Gayle
mom to bbg (9/24/03)

> Yes, you SHOULD call the Director of the Residency program!  Yours could be the
> one call among many that finally makes them speak to the doc and consider
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> doctor).
> Grandma Gwen
GwenO MS - 23 Aug 2004 19:12 GMT
I'm so glad you mentioned it!  I am going to share you posts (before and after)
and mine with my son, and get his feedback.  
Grandmom Gwen
Seth Jackson - 25 Aug 2004 18:03 GMT
>I ended up telling my doctor about it at my sons follow up appointment.  My
>doctor was in charge of the residents the day after my son was admitted.  He
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>excuse the attitude of this doctor, but I trust our family doc and know that
>he will take the information where it needs to go.

This reminds me of something that happened to us when we were in the
hospital for the birth of our twins.  One of the nurses was from out
of the country.  Our 3-day-old babies were crying, and she scolded
them to, "Be-HAVE!!!"  I was pretty shocked and offended, and I would
have complained had I known who to complain to.  
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The Huwe Family - 25 Aug 2004 20:33 GMT
There was a nurse in the NICU with our babies.  She was also from out of the
country.  She called EVERYONE "Mama":  Me, my husband, even the babies.  It
was really annoying.

Gayle
mom to bbg (9/24/03)

> >I ended up telling my doctor about it at my sons follow up appointment.  My
> >doctor was in charge of the residents the day after my son was admitted.  He
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multimom4 - 26 Aug 2004 19:49 GMT
We-ell, we didn't have any foreign nurses, but there were still plenty with
irritating habits and expressions.  Universal trait I guess.

--Janet
Elliot, Hanna, Connor  (10/21/96)
and Holly  (4/4/01)

> There was a nurse in the NICU with our babies.  She was also from out of the
> country.  She called EVERYONE "Mama":  Me, my husband, even the babies.  It
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