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Suffolk/Norfolk man - 05 Mar 2006 20:53 GMT
Hi all,

Hope you can help.  My partner has missed 2 periods now, all the home and GP
pregnancy tests are negative however we have heard that as they all test for
HCG it is possible to be pregnant and not test positive?  Does anyone have
any experience either direct or anecdotal about this?

The beloved is going to the Dr's tomorrow for a blood test but I thought I'd
ask here and see if anyone canshed any light?

She's a Phys Ed teacher, very fit and came off the contraceptive pill about
8 months ago and has regular periods since then - she's 31 yrs old.

Regards

G
alison - 07 Mar 2006 21:20 GMT
you can't be pregnant if no hcg is found in your blood.  don't know why she
would be missing periods unless she is stressed, lost weight, has pcos etc.
Hope it works out soon.

Alison

> Hi all,
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> G
Lisa Jones - 13 Mar 2006 14:59 GMT
hcg is only detected for a certain amount of weeks. my cousin was having
neg's for weeks and demanded a scan. they scanned her and she was 6 months
pregnant.
the hospital said that hgc is only detectable for a certain amount of weeks
and thats why the tests were showing neg.

sorry i can't be more specific but just letting you know that yes it can
happen.
also, she gave birth to a healthy baby boy last week!

> you can't be pregnant if no hcg is found in your blood.  don't know why she
> would be missing periods unless she is stressed, lost weight, has pcos etc.
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> > G
K - 14 Mar 2006 21:05 GMT
> hcg is only detected for a certain amount of weeks. my cousin was having
> neg's for weeks and demanded a scan. they scanned her and she was 6 months
> pregnant.
> the hospital said that hgc is only detectable for a certain amount of weeks
> and thats why the tests were showing neg.

Hm. This is misleading at best. HCG levels increase quickly in early
pregnancy, and drop again after about three months gestation, but
they are still substantially higher during the rest of pregnancy than
they are in a non-pregnant woman. Even in the third trimester, the
level is between 1,000 and 50,000 IU/L - in a non-pregnant woman the
level is less than 5.0 IU/L.

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alison - 14 Mar 2006 22:30 GMT
exactly what i was going to say, i actually work as a scientist in a
pathology lab and do hcg testing every day.  It never goes away when you are
pregnant, unless it is too early to detect ie. less than 4 weeks pregnant.

Alison

>> hcg is only detected for a certain amount of weeks. my cousin was having
>> neg's for weeks and demanded a scan. they scanned her and she was 6
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> level is between 1,000 and 50,000 IU/L - in a non-pregnant woman the
> level is less than 5.0 IU/L.
Aussie X Stitcher - 15 Mar 2006 06:29 GMT
> exactly what i was going to say, i actually work as a scientist in a
> pathology lab and do hcg testing every day.  It never goes away when you
> are pregnant, unless it is too early to detect ie. less than 4 weeks
> pregnant.
>
> Alison

You may work in a pathology lab but you aren't actually correct either.  I
am currently 10 weeks pregnant.  I found out that I was pregnant at 13 days
past ovulation with a home pregnancy test purchased at a supermarket.

This isn't actually even considered "early".  A lot will depend upon the
sensitivity of the test being used, how much HCG it is able to detect and
how far past implantation a woman's pregnancy is.
lisagav69 - 15 Mar 2006 09:04 GMT
Sorry but I am saying what the doctors told my cousin. She WAS 6 months preg
and tests had been showing up neg for 3 months!

I know hgc doesn't go away but they said a hpt will not pick up lower
amounts of hcg past a certain amount of weeks.
I haven't got a clue what's wrong or right, I'm just quoting from personal
experience and didn't mean to upset or offend anyone.
I did a hpt and after the doc confirmed it, I was only 4 weeks at the time
of doing it. I now have a wonderful 10 month old daughter.

> > exactly what i was going to say, i actually work as a scientist in a
> > pathology lab and do hcg testing every day.  It never goes away when you
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> sensitivity of the test being used, how much HCG it is able to detect and
> how far past implantation a woman's pregnancy is.
lisagav69 - 15 Mar 2006 09:06 GMT
Forgot to add, she was doing hpt's and also had various bloods done which
were all coming back neg.

> Sorry but I am saying what the doctors told my cousin. She WAS 6 months preg
> and tests had been showing up neg for 3 months!
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> > sensitivity of the test being used, how much HCG it is able to detect and
> > how far past implantation a woman's pregnancy is.
Aussie X Stitcher - 15 Mar 2006 10:08 GMT
> Sorry but I am saying what the doctors told my cousin. She WAS 6 months
> preg
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> I did a hpt and after the doc confirmed it, I was only 4 weeks at the time
> of doing it. I now have a wonderful 10 month old daughter.

Well dear, I would suggest that either your cousin wasn't listening, or the
Dr is a quack.  HCG is ALWAYS present in a pregnant woman.  ALWAYS.  It does
peak at a certain level but remains present until such time as the pregnancy
ends.  Under normal circumstances if a person's HCG levels remain so low as
to be undetected then the pregnancy isn't viable.

You've been sadly misinformed by your cousin who it seems has somewhat of a
sense of drama about them.
lisagav69 - 15 Mar 2006 23:24 GMT
that's a tad harsh love.

> > Sorry but I am saying what the doctors told my cousin. She WAS 6 months
> > preg
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> You've been sadly misinformed by your cousin who it seems has somewhat of a
> sense of drama about them.
lisagav69 - 15 Mar 2006 23:32 GMT
Plus I never did say that hgc levels go away  in any form. She was just told
that hpt (I'm guessing the ones she told the doc she was using) didn't pick
up THOSE levels. hpt's do differ as you can have a neg from one brand and a
positive from another.And also, my cousin isn't stupid or anything. If she
said thats what they told her then I believe her.

> that's a tad harsh love.
>
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> a
> > sense of drama about them.
alison - 16 Mar 2006 22:34 GMT
hcg levels go down to about 10,000 after 10 weeks, never lower than 50 which
is what most hpt's pick up.

> Plus I never did say that hgc levels go away  in any form. She was just
> told
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>> a
>> > sense of drama about them.
c j - 10 Feb 2008 16:07 GMT
It depends on the levels of hcg. i had missed my period took a test which
result was neg. i visited my gp who said to just continue with another test
in a week or so, which returned neg. i then went to hosp to have an etopic
pregnancy test done apparantly they are more sensitive???which returned neg.
i done more tests every week so i started thinking ok im crazy im not
pregnant. then i got a positive result ...??? weird i found out i was 11
weeks pregnant. mmy hcg had not rappidly raised. later i found out my mother
was 5 months before a test showed positive while carrying my brother. I have
also found sources on the net to imply this does happen to some women....hcg
will eventually rise but later than others.

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/119097.aspx
c j - 10 Feb 2008 16:07 GMT
It depends on the levels of hcg. i had missed my period took a test which
result was neg. i visited my gp who said to just continue with another test
in a week or so, which returned neg. i then went to hosp to have an etopic
pregnancy test done apparantly they are more sensitive???which returned neg.
i done more tests every week so i started thinking ok im crazy im not
pregnant. then i got a positive result ...??? weird i found out i was 11
weeks pregnant. mmy hcg had not rappidly raised. later i found out my mother
was 5 months before a test showed positive while carrying my brother. I have
also found sources on the net to imply this does happen to some women....hcg
will eventually rise but later than others.

url:http://myreader.co.uk/msg/119097.aspx
alison - 16 Mar 2006 22:33 GMT
i wasn't saying you can't detect it before 4 weeks, i got my bfp at 10dpo,
i'm just saying that for some people their level is low so that 4 weeks is
considered the time after which it should be able to be detected.

>> exactly what i was going to say, i actually work as a scientist in a
>> pathology lab and do hcg testing every day.  It never goes away when you
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> sensitivity of the test being used, how much HCG it is able to detect and
> how far past implantation a woman's pregnancy is.
 
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