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Re: Heather Lindorff gets 6 years
| J. | 05 Apr 2004 16:16 |
>> adoptadad@aol.com (AdoptaDad) wrote in message >news:<20040403054330.18872.00000515@mb-m20.aol.com>... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Ron We either give judges the discretion necessary to apply the laws with some semblance of justice or we don't. So long as we give them discretion, there will be sentences with which we disagree and apparent contradictions when we attempt to compare sentences for different crimes.
There are any number of other possible reasons for this disparity, including the variation in sentences provided for in each state's laws, whether the state has some form of uniform sentencing, etc. Minnesota, for example, has sentencing guidelines, weighted to increase sentences based on prior history, vulnerability of victim, etc. Judges can depart upward or downward but must make specific findings of fact justifying the departure and either side can appreal a departure.
Frankly, the sentence for a particular crime often depends upon the mood at the legislature when the law was passed or its response to a particularly moving event. Our governor has responded to a recent kidnap and probable murder by proposing renewing the death sentence. Others have responded by coming out in favor of indeterminate sentencing for sex crimes, e.g., 10 to life, in order to keep sex offenders under the state's jurisdiction for life, without the need for separate civil commitment hearings when the sentence expires, as is presently the case.
Too, there are only so many possible sentences available for any type of crime (assault, murder, theft, for example). You have to have some sense of proportion within each category, unless you are willing to give the same sentence for stealing a loaf of bread and an entire pension fund, or manslaughter and premeditated murder.
Is it possible that there is some form of unconscious discrimination in sentencing when the murdered child is adopted, rather than biological? Possibly. We know racial biases are reflected in sentencing to some extent. I wouldn't be surprised to find similar biases based on sex or national origin.* I won't accept it as fact on the basis of a few instances, however.
J.
* Come to think of it, I think the sex bias has been demonstrated in the application of the death penalty, at least.
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| Ron Morgan | 04 Apr 2004 20:35 |
> > >Subject: Re: Heather Lindorff gets 6 years > > >From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > You can tick more than one if applicable. We only have uniform sentencing guidlines for federal crimes, most of them drug related. BTW, these uniform sentences are under attack from a variety of groups, including judges. There is nothing in statute that treats the death of a Russian child as less than any other. If you have a beef with the sentence, then you should work to unseat the judge in the case, whose interpretation of law determined the sentence, not some flaw in the law.
Ron
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| Dian | 04 Apr 2004 09:04 |
> >Subject: Re: Heather Lindorff gets 6 years > >From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > This from the same woman who objected to the "Mother Kills Child" news > articles recently posted by Marla. WHO objected to them? not I. So stop lying.
I guess no such generalizations are to be
> taken from those stories. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dad Tell me, Dad, do you believe adopters who abuse Russian children to death should:
[ ] get a 6 year sentence spending only 2 years actually in jail? [ ] get the same sentence as those who defraud Pap's out of money? [ ] get a longer sentence than those who defraud Pap's out of money? [ ] get the same sentence as those who abuse NON-Russian kids to death?
You can tick more than one if applicable.
Di
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| AdoptaDad | 03 Apr 2004 10:43 |
>Subject: Re: Heather Lindorff gets 6 years >From: patrice068@optusnet.com.au (Dian) >Date: 4/2/04 8:01 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <9a095db9.0404021701.10dc4969@posting.google.com> < snip >
>Russian children are obviously not worth much as human >beings in the eyes of Americans. > >Di This from the same woman who objected to the "Mother Kills Child" news articles recently posted by Marla. I guess no such generalizations are to be taken from those stories.
Tell me, Diane, do you make these ridiculous assertions because you are...
[ ] stoopid [ } lonely and need some attention [ } just wanna piss certain people off
You can check more than one, if applicable.
Dad
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| Dian | 03 Apr 2004 01:01 |
> http://www.nj.com/news/gloucester/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1080724556101450.xml > [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > in age from 8 to 13 remain in the custody of their maternal adoptive > grandmother. Russian children are obviously not worth much as human beings in the eyes of Americans.
Di
> ------------------------- > A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will > be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" > -----Unknown |
| LilMtnCbn | 02 Apr 2004 14:20 |
http://www.nj.com/news/gloucester/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1080724556101450.xml
Heather Lindorff gets 6 years
Wednesday, March 31, 2004
By Laura Tull ltull@sjnewsco.com
WOODBURY -- Over her pleas urging the court not to break up her family, Heather Lindorff was sentenced to six years in state prison Tuesday for the abuse and neglect of her deceased 5-year-old adopted Russian son.
The 39-year-old adoptive mother of five tearfully told the court, "my worst fear is being taken away from them. I think I need them more than they need me."
Soft sobs were heard from the audience where the five other children, also adopted from Russia by Heather Lindorff and her husband James, sat in a row of red faces, hugging each other and wiping away tears.
On December 22, a jury convicted Heather Lindorff, of Franklin Township, of second degree endangering the welfare of a child in the December 14, 2001 death of her 5-year-old adopted son, Jacob. She was acquitted of aggravated manslaughter and aggravated assault charges.
Her husband, James Lindorff, 54, was sentenced to four years of probation and 400 hours of community service over four years for fourth degree child abuse.
The jury deliberated for less than three days.
The Lindorffs, once portrayed as a model for international adoptions, both expressed remorse over the death of their son.
"Your honor, don't break up this family," James Lindorff implored the judge. "This isn't the house of horrors that was portrayed by the Prosecutor's Office.
"I love all my children deeply and they love me. I feel that I've been a good father. I deeply regret what happened to Jacob. There's nothing I can do to change that," said James Lindorff.
Prior to sentencing, Superior Court Judge Julio Mendez denied defense motions seeking a new trial and a judgment of acquittal for both the Lindorffs. Defense attorneys argued that the judge improperly dismissed a lesser count of child abuse against Heather Lindorff during the trial and that the state had withheld discovery materials.
Heather Lindorff faced a maximum sentence of up to 10 years in state prison.
As the sentence was announced, James Lindorff put his arms around his wife and held her close, his eyes closed. The couple seemed oblivious as the proceedings continued around them.
The judge ordered Heather Lindorff to report to the Gloucester County Women's Facility in Clarksboro on April 23 at 6 p.m. to begin her sentence. He agreed to consider a defense request for bail pending her appeal.
Afterwards, Heather Lindorff went to her children, kneeling down to offer hugs and comfort as they crowded around her crying, their faces flushed with emotion.
Assistant Prosecutor Mary Pyffer called the sentence "very fair and appropriate." She added, "We have a little boy that came into our country, seemingly healthy, and six weeks later he was dead."
Prosecutors argued that the child died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head, an injury consistent with child abuse. Jacob was also found to have sustained second-degree burns on his feet, hemorrhaging in one eye, bruises over his body. The state also claimed he suffered what appeared to be seizures.
Heather Lindorff was the primary caregiver for the couple's six adopted children. Both burn injuries occurred under her sole care. She testified that they were "accidental." However, "the jury found otherwise," said Pyffer.
Defendants are typically eligible for parole after serving a third of their sentence -- that's two years in Heather Lindorff's case, said Pyffer.
With the exception of 20-year-old Jessica, the four Lindorff children ranging in age from 8 to 13 remain in the custody of their maternal adoptive grandmother.
------------------------- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail . . . but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!" -----Unknown
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