Re: a monkey in a mirrors sees

Amirror.

What would happen if Jan Drew got his own postings?

He would reply at them, and bark and forge.

Hell, he even can't read!

So, what does he want? Iron? Fish oil? A new battery?

Just to imagine that THIS persons claims to have run TWO children daycare
centers makes one freeze...

On Jun 28, 9:45 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No, I did not write that.  Learn to quote properly.

FACT:

You wote that, not me.

First you warnher to be careful, and then you repost a message just of
the type you warned her about.

Whatever *warnher* is.

Actually, I reply to her post.  Her post was here.

You are such a hypocite.

UImm, no-- that is you, Mark S Probert.

First you warnher to be careful, and then you repost a message just of
the type you warned her about.

You are such a hypocite.

On Jun 27, 6:48 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

It's true that your primary focus is on Probert's malicious and
pathological lying in usenet's alternative discussion forums;
however,  you also publish articles containing a facsimile of data
indicating that Probert had been disbarred for 6 counts of fraud by
then-members of the bar in a rogue state,  within our rogue nation.

Our rogue nation's "Offender To Intelligence Program" is a program
whereby corrupt US Civil Servants pluck the worse of the world's worse
criminals out of US Prisons,   detainee camps,  deportation centers,
asylums for the criminally insane,  etc. to perpetrate crimes against
innocent Americans to contribute to innocent Americans incarceration,
debility and/or death,   in exchange for rogue US Civil Servants
falsifying public documents and medical records to erase all record of
their criminal and psychiatric histories.

Corrupt US Civil Servants falsification of public records,  as well
as,  their falsification of medical records has created a situation
where all US public records and/or medical records are suspect and
cannot be relied upon as a source of information.

Hence,  you really ought not rely on any public record regarding any
disbarment proceedings against Probert for fraud,  because,  A) it's
possible that corrupt US civil servants have since falsified public
documents to erase the historical record of any disbarment proceedings
against Probert,   and,  B) it's unlikely that any of the members of
the NY Bar who took part in any disbarment proceedings against Probert
are alive or in good enough health to refute any falsified public
records ,  since,  any member of the NY Bar who was party to any
disbarment proceedings against Probert way back when,  would have to
be in their 80's and 90's by now, IF they're still alive.

Probert hasn't any legal standing to publish articles demanding you
cease and desist publishing articles wherein you recite the historical
record of Probert's non-stop pathological lying and other malicious
activities in usenet's alternative discussion forums.

However,  Probert does have legal standing to demand you cease and
desist misusing interactive computer services to pursue unwanted and
unwelcome communications with Probert about the historical record of
Probert's non-stop pathological lying and other malicious activities
in usenet's alternative discussion forums for over a decade.

Hence,  you should probably be thanking God for Probert's hypocrisy,
since Probert's lame excuse for Probert's CRIMINAL misuse of
interactive computer services in pursuit of unwanted and unwelcome
communications with yours truly despite my legally binding Public
Cease and Desist Notices demanding Mark S. Probert not do so,  is
probably the only thing stopping Probert from filing criminal charges
against you for continuing to misuse ICS to pursue unwanted and
unwelcome communications with Probert after Probert asked you to cease
and desist.

People who trust that God will protect them from psychopaths like
Probert because they find their certainties in their theological faith
haven't any need or desire to know what motivates psychopaths like
Probert.

I know these things are true,   Jan.

As do Probert and his criminal conspirators,   most especially,  since
the Gangsters in Black Robes recently imprisoned an FBI "operative" by
the name of Hal Turner for doing the same exact thing to other
Americans which Probert and his criminal co-conspirators have been
doing to you,  me and mine,  and a lengthy list of other innocent
Americans,  on the same exact charges which I say that Probert and his
co-conspirators should have been imprisoned for well over a decade
ago.

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-operative-hal-turner-arrested/

Surely you didn't think that psychopaths like Probert and his criminal
co-conspirators grasped the reality that it was a crime for them to
recklessly endanger the lives of you,  me and mine,  and a long series
of other innocent Americans,  for well over a decade,  by their
incessantly publishing or prompting the publication of our addresses,
all by their psychopathic and sociopathic selves,  did ya?

No sirree bob!

It's the arrest and imprisonment of an FBI "operative" by the name of
Hal Turner which prompted Mark S. Probert,  Robert Officer,  and every
other sociopath who's been misusing usenet's alternative discussion
forums as venues for their Terrorist Operations to grasp the reality
that being a well known FBI "operative" won't even save a sociopath
from getting his/her sociopathic arse in the slammer for having
conspired to blackmail,  terrorize and effect the murder of other
Americans.

Needless to say,  since the arrest of Hal Turner the stalwarts of the
SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell have already published articles containing LIES
switching all the blame for the members of the SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell
having multiplied the danger our lives were in by their subjecting us
to the SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell's Enhanced Program of Systematic Torture/
Terrorism aka L.A.R.T from the SPP/AUK Terrorist's sociopathic arses
TO Mark S. Probert and all the other malicious criminals and other
undesirables cybersquatting in topical forums who had rendered our
nyms,  and,  more often then not,  our names and addresses to the SPP/
AUK Terrorist Cell for it's Enhanced Program of Systematic Torture/
Terrorism aka L.A.R.T.

A pity neither the psychopaths and sociopaths cybersquatting in
usenet's topical forums,   nor those cybersquatting in SPP/AHM/AUK can
unring that bell.

No sirree bob!

The lives of those they recklessly endangered have and always will
remain in unestimable danger until Probert and all his co-conspirators
are imprisoned,   and,   their crime victims are placed in witness
protection program.

It is and always has been my "certain" knowledge that the psychopath
known as Probert and all the other members of Probert's terrorist cell
are and have been conspiring to blackmail,  terrorize,  and effect the
murder of  me and mine.

My "certain" knowledge about Probert and the other reprobates ultimate
goal vis a vis yours truly being my murder,  made it a No Brainer for
yours truly to react to their conspiring to blackmail,  terrorize and
effect my murder by publishing my Cease and Desist Public Notices and
steadfastly ignoring their ILLEGAL use of ICS to pursue unwelcome
communications with yours truly forever after.

The DENIAL which you and some of Probert's other targets engage in wrt
Probert and his co-conspirators ultimate goal being the incitement of
violence and murder of you/them seems a tad self-serving to me,  in as
much as,  you and other targets in denial of Probert's murderous
motives don't want to admit that your own motive for retaliating
against Probert and his co-conspirators for placing you in grave
danger by incessantly  publishing your address by virtue of your
incessantly publishing Probert and his criminal co-conspirators
address was and is to incite violence/murder of Probert and his
criminal co-conspirators.

From where I've seated myself,  which is and has been completely
outside the Karp Drama Triangle which Probert and his criminal co-
conspirators, and/or,  some of their many crime victims sought to suck
me into,    I believe it's you and the other targets in denial of
Probert Et al's murderous minded motives vis a vis yourselves who are
at greatest risk for having a prison cell adjoining Probert's and his
criminal co-conspirators because it's your DENIAL  of Probert et al's
murderous motives which enables you to give yourselves permission to
retaliate by publishing Probert and his co-conspirators addresses---
and,  doing that is bound to get you guys and gals in heaps of trouble
with the law,   sooner or later.

You have an inalienable and constitutional right to freedom of speech
which entitles you to publish any and all the articles you want to
publish reciting Probert and his criminal co-conspirators pathological
lying and all the other malicious activities they engaged in since
cybersquatting in usenet's alternative forums,  and,  otherwise.

However,  Probert and his criminal co-conspirators have an inalienable
and constitutional right to Freedom of Association which includes an
inalienable and constitutional right NOT to associate with anyone whom
the reprobates don't want to associate with,   which,  in Probert's
case explicitly includes you,    ergo,  you have got to cease and
desist misusing ICS to pursue direct communications with Probert since
Probert's repeatedly informed you your pursuit of direct communication
is unwelcome and unwanted hence  unlawful----no if's,  and's,  or
but's about it.

Furthermore,  you've got to stop denying Probert's and his criminal co-
conspirators murderous minded motive for their having incessantly
published your and all their other crime victims addresses.

Lastly,  you've got to let the wheels of Justice turn sufficiently to
redress Probert et al's many crimes;  however,  long that might
take,   instead of retaliating by incessantly publishing the addresses
of Probert and his criminal co-conspirators because retaliating by
publishing their addresses is eventually going to bring the heat down
on you,    not just them.

That said,   I know you are amongst the 90% of people who do the very
best you/they  can in whatever circumstances you happen to find
yourself in,   which,   in recent years is this near impossible,  no
win,   no viable way out set of circumstances which psychopaths like
Probert and his criminal co-conspirators placed you in by virtue of
their pathological lying and other malicious activities.

If Probert and his criminal co-conspirators succeeded in inciting you
to act in a manner which lands you in a prison cell adjoining their
own,  DO remember that a prison cell beats the heck out of the two
alternative scenarios lying in wait for you and everyone whom the
psychopaths amongst us target: A)insanity,  and,   B)Death.

Linda,

Where did I ever post Probert had been disbarred for 6 counts of fraud?

I don't think I ever posted that.  What I posted was:

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

Neither do I have any communications with Mark S Probert.

Your comments I believe it's you and the other targets in denial of
Probert Et al's murderous minded motives vis a vis yourselves who are
at greatest risk for having a prison cell adjoining Probert's and his
criminal co-conspirators because it's your DENIAL  of Probert et al's
murderous motives which enables you to give yourselves permission to
retaliate by publishing Probert and his co-conspirators addresses---
and,  doing that is bound to get you guys and gals in heaps of trouble
with the law,   sooner or later.

Wow!! I am not one bit worried about being in any prison cell, nor any
prison.
Impossible for me to deny something I know nothing about.  Like Mark's
murderous motives.

It's true that your primary focus is on Probert's malicious and
pathological lying in usenet's alternative discussion forums;
however,  you also publish articles containing a facsimile of data
indicating that Probert had been disbarred for 6 counts of fraud by
then-members of the bar in a rogue state,  within our rogue nation.

Our rogue nation's "Offender To Intelligence Program" is a program
whereby corrupt US Civil Servants pluck the worse of the world's worse
criminals out of US Prisons,   detainee camps,  deportation centers,
asylums for the criminally insane,  etc. to perpetrate crimes against
innocent Americans to contribute to innocent Americans incarceration,
debility and/or death,   in exchange for rogue US Civil Servants
falsifying public documents and medical records to erase all record of
their criminal and psychiatric histories.

Corrupt US Civil Servants falsification of public records,  as well
as,  their falsification of medical records has created a situation
where all US public records and/or medical records are suspect and
cannot be relied upon as a source of information.

Hence,  you really ought not rely on any public record regarding any
disbarment proceedings against Probert for fraud,  because,  A) it's
possible that corrupt US civil servants have since falsified public
documents to erase the historical record of any disbarment proceedings
against Probert,   and,  B) it's unlikely that any of the members of
the NY Bar who took part in any disbarment proceedings against Probert
are alive or in good enough health to refute any falsified public
records ,  since,  any member of the NY Bar who was party to any
disbarment proceedings against Probert way back when,  would have to
be in their 80's and 90's by now, IF they're still alive.

Probert hasn't any legal standing to publish articles demanding you
cease and desist publishing articles wherein you recite the historical
record of Probert's non-stop pathological lying and other malicious
activities in usenet's alternative discussion forums.

However,  Probert does have legal standing to demand you cease and
desist misusing interactive computer services to pursue unwanted and
unwelcome communications with Probert about the historical record of
Probert's non-stop pathological lying and other malicious activities
in usenet's alternative discussion forums for over a decade.

Hence,  you should probably be thanking God for Probert's hypocrisy,
since Probert's lame excuse for Probert's CRIMINAL misuse of
interactive computer services in pursuit of unwanted and unwelcome
communications with yours truly despite my legally binding Public
Cease and Desist Notices demanding Mark S. Probert not do so,  is
probably the only thing stopping Probert from filing criminal charges
against you for continuing to misuse ICS to pursue unwanted and
unwelcome communications with Probert after Probert asked you to cease
and desist.

People who trust that God will protect them from psychopaths like
Probert because they find their certainties in their theological faith
haven't any need or desire to know what motivates psychopaths like
Probert.

I know these things are true,   Jan.

As do Probert and his criminal conspirators,   most especially,  since
the Gangsters in Black Robes recently imprisoned an FBI "operative" by
the name of Hal Turner for doing the same exact thing to other
Americans which Probert and his criminal co-conspirators have been
doing to you,  me and mine,  and a lengthy list of other innocent
Americans,  on the same exact charges which I say that Probert and his
co-conspirators should have been imprisoned for well over a decade
ago.

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-operative-hal-turner-arrested/

Surely you didn't think that psychopaths like Probert and his criminal
co-conspirators grasped the reality that it was a crime for them to
recklessly endanger the lives of you,  me and mine,  and a long series
of other innocent Americans,  for well over a decade,  by their
incessantly publishing or prompting the publication of our addresses,
all by their psychopathic and sociopathic selves,  did ya?

No sirree bob!

It's the arrest and imprisonment of an FBI "operative" by the name of
Hal Turner which prompted Mark S. Probert,  Robert Officer,  and every
other sociopath who's been misusing usenet's alternative discussion
forums as venues for their Terrorist Operations to grasp the reality
that being a well known FBI "operative" won't even save a sociopath
from getting his/her sociopathic arse in the slammer for having
conspired to blackmail,  terrorize and effect the murder of other
Americans.

Needless to say,  since the arrest of Hal Turner the stalwarts of the
SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell have already published articles containing LIES
switching all the blame for the members of the SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell
having multiplied the danger our lives were in by their subjecting us
to the SPP/AUK Terrorist Cell's Enhanced Program of Systematic Torture/
Terrorism aka L.A.R.T from the SPP/AUK Terrorist's sociopathic arses
TO Mark S. Probert and all the other malicious criminals and other
undesirables cybersquatting in topical forums who had rendered our
nyms,  and,  more often then not,  our names and addresses to the SPP/
AUK Terrorist Cell for it's Enhanced Program of Systematic Torture/
Terrorism aka L.A.R.T.

A pity neither the psychopaths and sociopaths cybersquatting in
usenet's topical forums,   nor those cybersquatting in SPP/AHM/AUK can
unring that bell.

No sirree bob!

The lives of those they recklessly endangered have and always will
remain in unestimable danger until Probert and all his co-conspirators
are imprisoned,   and,   their crime victims are placed in witness
protection program.

It is and always has been my "certain" knowledge that the psychopath
known as Probert and all the other members of Probert's terrorist cell
are and have been conspiring to blackmail,  terrorize,  and effect the
murder of  me and mine.

My "certain" knowledge about Probert and the other reprobates ultimate
goal vis a vis yours truly being my murder,  made it a No Brainer for
yours truly to react to their conspiring to blackmail,  terrorize and
effect my murder by publishing my Cease and Desist Public Notices and
steadfastly ignoring their ILLEGAL use of ICS to pursue unwelcome
communications with yours truly forever after.

The DENIAL which you and some of Probert's other targets engage in wrt
Probert and his co-conspirators ultimate goal being the incitement of
violence and murder of you/them seems a tad self-serving to me,  in as
much as,  you and other targets in denial of Probert's murderous
motives don't want to admit that your own motive for retaliating
against Probert and his co-conspirators for placing you in grave
danger by incessantly  publishing your address by virtue of your
incessantly publishing Probert and his criminal co-conspirators
address was and is to incite violence/murder of Probert and his
criminal co-conspirators.

From where I've seated myself,  which is and has been completely
outside the Karp Drama Triangle which Probert and his criminal co-
conspirators, and/or,  some of their many crime victims sought to suck
me into,    I believe it's you and the other targets in denial of
Probert Et al's murderous minded motives vis a vis yourselves who are
at greatest risk for having a prison cell adjoining Probert's and his
criminal co-conspirators because it's your DENIAL  of Probert et al's
murderous motives which enables you to give yourselves permission to
retaliate by publishing Probert and his co-conspirators addresses---
and,  doing that is bound to get you guys and gals in heaps of trouble
with the law,   sooner or later.

You have an inalienable and constitutional right to freedom of speech
which entitles you to publish any and all the articles you want to
publish reciting Probert and his criminal co-conspirators pathological
lying and all the other malicious activities they engaged in since
cybersquatting in usenet's alternative forums,  and,  otherwise.

However,  Probert and his criminal co-conspirators have an inalienable
and constitutional right to Freedom of Association which includes an
inalienable and constitutional right NOT to associate with anyone whom
the reprobates don't want to associate with,   which,  in Probert's
case explicitly includes you,    ergo,  you have got to cease and
desist misusing ICS to pursue direct communications with Probert since
Probert's repeatedly informed you your pursuit of direct communication
is unwelcome and unwanted hence  unlawful----no if's,  and's,  or
but's about it.

Furthermore,  you've got to stop denying Probert's and his criminal co-
conspirators murderous minded motive for their having incessantly
published your and all their other crime victims addresses.

Lastly,  you've got to let the wheels of Justice turn sufficiently to
redress Probert et al's many crimes;  however,  long that might
take,   instead of retaliating by incessantly publishing the addresses
of Probert and his criminal co-conspirators because retaliating by
publishing their addresses is eventually going to bring the heat down
on you,    not just them.

That said,   I know you are amongst the 90% of people who do the very
best you/they  can in whatever circumstances you happen to find
yourself in,   which,   in recent years is this near impossible,  no
win,   no viable way out set of circumstances which psychopaths like
Probert and his criminal co-conspirators placed you in by virtue of
their pathological lying and other malicious activities.

If Probert and his criminal co-conspirators succeeded in inciting you
to act in a manner which lands you in a prison cell adjoining their
own,  DO remember that a prison cell beats the heck out of the two
alternative scenarios lying in wait for you and everyone whom the
psychopaths amongst us target: A)insanity,  and,   B)Death.

Hi Linda,

I only know of his usenet behavior, his many lies, his claims that he has
never proven.
His harassing and accusing other's of his own exact guilt.  Thus, proving
himself to be a hypocrite.

The above I know noting about.  Unless you know these things to be true, if
I were you I would be very
careful with such serious allegations.

Jan

Jan,

Psychopath,  Mark S. Probert and all the other sociopaths who
cybersquatted in ASAD,  AST and other "alternative" usenet forums
chartered for the discussion of socalled childhood disorders said and
did whatever they believed was necessary to say and do to manufacture
the false perception that Mark S. Probert and 500 + sociopaths were
justified in forming Terrorist Cell(s) to conspire to blackmail,
terrorize and effect the murder of America's Lollipop Nursery School
Teachers and other innocent americans.

Obviously,  saying and doing whatever it takes to justify their
criminal activities includes the sociopaths publishing non-stop lies
to adorn themselves with wives,  children, and pets which very few of
the sociopaths lying in wait in usenet's alternative forums actually
had/have.

Ergo,   any allegations which Probert and any of the other sociopaths
cybersquatting in usenet's online forums publish to manufacture a
false pretext for cybersquatting in "alternative aka ALT" usenet
discussion forums MUST be taken with a humongous grain of salt.

Thus,   the alleged nearly 30 yo men whom Probert ALLEGED he sired
must be referred to as ALLEGED nearly 30 yo young men whom Probert
alleged he sired,  since there exists no corroborating evidence
substantiating Probert's constantly changing claims about the nearly
30 yo men whom the psychopath known as Mark S. Probert has alleged he
sired.

PS:I changed the title to one which accurately reflects what
psychopath, Mark S. Probert,  is actually doing everytime that
psychopath interjects tidbits about the alleged @ 30 yo young men whom
Probert allegedly sired.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/4d7032def8ac5b65

Newsgroups: alt.support.autism, sci.med.psychobiology, misc.kids.health,
alt.support.attn-deficit
From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 30 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Autism is Not Mental Illness: Get it Out of the DSM

Great point. It happened in my family. Once we accepted my AD/HD son,
we moved on, and he is now a college graduate with a BFA and MFA and
earning a hefty salary.

I'll have more comments later. My younger son wants to go out for some
food.