Re: Jan Drew is a Net stalker

Nonsense.

I have seen persons in the street, who yell out every few seconds, who attack
passers-by. This behavior seems quite natural tho those critters.

If they go into the internet, would they do the same?

Yes, they would...

On Jul 1, 9:55 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No, I will not be. Add being inumerate to your lack of skills.

Keep up your harassing, stalking and abusing,. You are only proving
that you are evil.

From:  Mark Probert - view profile
Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Groups:   k12.chat.teacher

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).

"Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Jul 22, 12:45 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:

Wrong Frager/fArtie. Demonstrably T R U E. However, since you never
recognized truth before, I am not surprised you would lie about it
now.
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Look who is posting about lies.

Is this true, Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY?

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From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 7, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t
09-07...@lambercartel.com>

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From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
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From: M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 30, 2004
(M.a.r.k_P.r.o.b.e.r.t_04-30...@limbercartel.com)

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From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
06-11...@lombercartel.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:11:24 GMT

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html

"I have never been an attorney, have never claimed to be one, and do not
play one on the internet."

Mark S. Probert of Merrick, NY
Mar 11 2002, 7:37 pm

" I do not have a little willie. My willie is big."

Mark S. Probert of Merrick, NY
Sun, Jun 4 2006 11:47 am

Mark S. Probert has continued his internet assaults on me while claiming
that he was never disbarred, never an attorney, and that I am crazy.

He initially attacked me right afterStephen Barrett, Terry Polevoy, &
Christopher Grell lost to me in a now classic SLAPP suit. Details here.

He seems to believe that his constant attacks on me should go unresponded to
and any defense to his lies is "stalking."

He claims he is my victim and has accused me of stalking his family.

The fact is that he attempted to infiltrate my support group disguised as a
female, called my home / office and threatened me.

Interestingly, his teammate, Terry Polevoy, was also caught disguised as a
female on Usenet -- attacking me and others he is suing.

I mistakenly waited for another few years before I contacted Probert's wife
(see letter below) ... though I realize now I should have contacted her
immediately upon his constant intrusions into my life.

I have never stalked him, though he repeats this libelous claim practically
daily.

Probert now has Betty (Mrs. John) Wirsen repeating his lies for him,
claiming that her research shows he was never disbarred.

Their story is that there are two Mark S. Probert's, both formerly of
Webster Ave. in Merrick, NY,  both born in November, 1946, both married to a
Sandra B. Probert.

Merrick, NY has an approximate population of 22,000 people.

Jeffrey P. Utz, who very briefly held a restricted medical license and since
then has claimed to be a pediatrician, claims there is absolutely no
evidence that Probert was disbarred.

Utz also claims there is no evidence that 'silicon implants ever harmed
anyone.'

Click here to see how ludicrous that is!

So much for his credibility!

I have a very full life and although I have not posted on Usenet for several
months during which Probert continued to attack me.

Utz and Wirsen and others from Barrett's Quackwatch team continue to deny
Probert's professional failures ... instead, they malign and libel me.

Because of their actions, I am now posting the public records to prove that
the Quackwatch propagandist, Mark S. Probert was indeed disbarred. On
Usenet, Probert has admitted his birthday in November, 1946.

He has oft spoken of his wife, Sandra B. Probert and his children and told
family 'stories' about them on Usenet publicly.

#1 ... Evidence of Mark S. Probert residing on Webster Ave. in Merrick, NY.
being disbarred.

Name:

MARKPROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

Agency Information Current Through:

05-25-2005

Database Last Updated:

07-20-2005

Update Frequency:

ANNUAL

Current Date:

11/26/2005

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

#2 ... Evidence of Mark S. and Sandra B. Probert residing on Webster Ave. in
Merrick, NY. taken from a separate court record  at the same address as the
disbarred Mark S. Probert

Name:

MARK S PROBERT

169 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

Attorney:

PRO SE

Name:

SANDRA B PROBERT

169 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

Attorney:

PRO SE

Name:

MARKPROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE   (former address-not current)

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-

To believe Probert and Wirsen and Utz and the others who continue to claim
that the Mark S Probert from this group, The Rag-tag Posse was not disbarred
... one would have to believe:

1 - there are 2 Mark S. Proberts who have lived at the same address on
Webster Avenue in Merrick, NY

2 - Both are married to a Sandra B. Probert

3 - Both were born in November, 1946

Interestingly enough, the same people who repeat Probert's denials, also
believe other propaganda disseminated by the Quackwatch.com team.

Update on 3.3.2005

I removed this webpage after I first received an answer from Sandra Probert
last November.

Now that she is posting our correspondence on Usenet with links to this page
... I am republishing it.

Apparently she wants to re-open this topic to the Internet.

She apparently is an owner of the Ilena Rosenthal Fan Club ... just one of
several vehicles Mark's Leaders from the Quackbuster Sites are using to
attempt to destroy my good name. For further information of the high profile
law suit Barrett lost to me ... and that is now in the Supreme Court of
California for one comment I made on Terry Polevoy, click here.

Her husband has been even more obnoxious than usual .... and I even doubt
that she herself is posting. However, if her husband is forging her
signature, that they will have to work out together.

Since last October, my gut feelings that Mark was involved with Terry
Polevoy in his very frightening obsession of locating my whereabouts have
been confirmed. I actually have a copy of the Private Investigator's Report
they hired to hunt me down and their admittance that they were lying about
the reason to stalk me in the postings to their Club.

Mark was joined with them in a now removed Yahoo Group, SBIPrivateClub,
which involvedseveral of Polevoy and Barrett's teammates in stalking me and
some friends of mine, and apparently illegally attempting to access my bank
accounts.

Here is an explanation of who they are.

Update on 3.3.2005

I removed this webpage after I first received an answer from Sandra Probert
last November.

Now that she is posting our correspondence on Usenet with links to this page
... I am republishing it.

Apparently she wants to re-open this topic to the Internet.

She apparently is an owner of the Ilena Rosenthal Fan Club ... just one of
several vehicles Mark's Leaders from the Quackbuster Sites are using to
attempt to destroy my good name. For further information of the high profile
law suit Barrett lost to me ... and that is now in the Supreme Court of
California for one comment I made on Terry Polevoy, click here.

Her husband has been even more obnoxious than usual .... and I even doubt
that she herself is posting. However, if her husband is forging her
signature, that they will have to work out together.

http://www.nylawfund.org/pubs/97AnRep.pdf

page 33

Mark S Probert     Judicial District 10        Awards  6  Amount 2,900

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LOL ... you can tell LIAR Martha Murdock that is NOT going to happen
and how beautifully you represent NSIF here.

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From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:10:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 3 2008 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: Mark Seth Probert does NOT read Torah Everyday

Correct. He does not have the same birthday. His birthday is in the
eighth month and, when written in numbers, is the same regardless of
which country or continent style is used.

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From: "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:13:58 GMT
Local: Wed, Feb 26 2003 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: Proof Mark Probert is a LIAR

"Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message

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markprobert1...@hotmail.com.

The properties section of OE, which I use on this computer, had the old
email addy in more than one place. I thought I had changed them all, but I
did not.

Do you really think I would give you and Debbee that much raw material to
bust my balls intentionally?

of

See above. Check this post.

Around a million or so. I have a bot automatically opening new accounts
daily.

(Let's see if she falls for that one....)

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No, I will not be. Add being inumerate to your lack of skills.

Keep up your harassing, stalking and abusing,. You are only proving
that you are evil.

Keeps shouting.  Calm down Mark,  you'll be 64 in November.

I will do it every time, and, every time you revert
back, you prove that you are a stalker, harasser and abuser.

When you do that....read this carefully....

I WIN.

The only way you cannot make me win is to stop the stalking,
harassing
and abusing. Even PeterB found your antics unacceptable.

Every time I WIN....YOU LOSE.

What are you babbling about? I stated, TWICE, the same thing. I only
mention your husband when you accuse me of bringing him into a
conversation. That has never, ever changed, because that is the
absolute truth.

You cannot find one shred of my postings saying otherwise.

I dare you to provide proof otherwise. You cannot.

On Jun 26, 5:30 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I used a literary technique known as figurative speech. Please learn
something beyond 6th grade writing. An adult ed course in September
would be good for you.

Furthmore, you most certainly

No, Jan, I have not. As you quoted, below, the only time

*****I have ever
mentioned your husband******

is to remind you, when you claim otherwise, as
you have done here,  that I have never brought him in to any Usenet
discusssion.

I read all of the crap you dredged up to try to show that I was lying,
but, NONE OF IT DOES. Not one word.

I'll leave the crap there, for anyone to review it. I have no interest
in your husband.

****** I have never

See how the story changes.

First you never mentioned my husband, then, you added to it it try and cover
your first lie.

Thanks for showing you are a proven liar.

I used a literary technique known as figurative speech. Please learn
something beyond 6th grade writing. An adult ed course in September
would be good for you.

Furthmore, you most certainly

No, Jan, I have not. As you quoted, below, the only time I have ever
mentioned your husband is to remind you, when you claim otherwise, as
you have done here,  that I have never brought him in to any Usenet
discusssion.

I read all of the crap you dredged up to try to show that I was lying,
but, NONE OF IT DOES. Not one word.

I'll leave the crap there, for anyone to review it. I have no interest
in your husband.

On Jun 26, 12:14 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

It is MY family for ME to comment on as I see fit.

They are not YOUR family, and, I have NEVER, EVER commented on your
family.

You live in the gutter.

That is a lie.  I do not live in the gutter.  Furthmore, you most certainly
have commented o my family.

Mark Probert
Usenet User   Posts: n/a

Re: Notice to Ilena Rosenthal, Director of the Humantics Foundation

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"Jan Drew" who hates Jews, Catholics, Atheists, Gays and anyone who does not
agree with her, or uses big words or sophisticated language
<jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, Jan, I have several of these fantasy posts from your enabler.

As I said, from this phraseology alone, it is clear that Ilena has not
evidence, and is just going fishing.

reveals that you have

An "illegal investigation" which is opposed to all of those investigations
and Googling that Ilena has done on those people who do not put up with her
bullshit. Ilena has to paint herself as the poor little victim, so she can
sucker in the incredibly gullibe, such as Jan. Ilena whines when she
perceives she is getting a dose of her own medicine.

of my

From what Ilena writes, it appears that someone may be performing a physical
location and assets search to serve legal process for execution of a
judgement. We know that Ilena has not paid a judgement, and this type of
inquiry is quite logical. Finding her domestic assests, as she has stated
that she is out of the country, is the next appropriate step before
referring the unsatisfied judgement to the appropriate legal authority for
execution.

your family will defnitely

Jan just repeated Ilena's threat to stalk and harass my family. I have never
mentioned Jan's husband, except to point ou tthat I have never mentioned
him, and she repeats the threat to stalk and harass my family.

Self-protection, Ilena. I consider you to be a mentally unstable parnoid
whose actions are uncontrolled by reason. The fact that you are out of the
country gives me a measure of peace.

More threats.

Any investigation into Ilena's background where there is a review of public
records is perfectly legal. Being in the buiness I know what is legal and
what is not.

Re: High Triglycerides
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The best thing for high triglycerides is lay off sugar and
carbs that turn to sugar. At this point, he may also need to
take Tricor, until the count comes down. Diet and exercise
does wonders.

Jan

M.A.R.K P.R.O.B
Guest

Re: High Triglycerides
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WARNING:

Jan proves she does not know what she is yakking about.

"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com> wrote in message
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m28.aol.com...

to

Triglycercides are F A T S!

http://www.americanheart.org/presen...identifier=4778

At this point, ***he*** may also need to take Tricor, until the
count comes

Exercise your mind and post facts.

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 17, 2004" <M.a.r.k

and

aspartame.

has

message

calories

It is MY family for ME to comment on as I see fit.

They are not YOUR family, and, I have NEVER, EVER commented on your
family.

You live in the gutter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/4d7032def8ac5b65

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alt.support.attn-deficit
From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 30 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Autism is Not Mental Illness: Get it Out of the DSM

Great point. It happened in my family. Once we accepted my AD/HD son,
we moved on, and he is now a college graduate with a BFA and MFA and
earning a hefty salary.

I'll have more comments later. My younger son wants to go out for some
food.