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Re: the real drug epidemic

maggie_smythman@yahoo.com08 Jun 2006 03:30
oooooooooh, so in your delusion, you think you're john phillip
sousa............no one can take a step until you strike up the
marching band.............sorry, bitch, your gig's
up...............there is nothing to debate...............the $600 a
second war on drugs has been a recognized failure for
decades............your dumb little make-work bureaucracy lost public
support long ago............now, it's lost the mainstream
media..............the days of cps vultures easily picking families
apart, as if they were roadkill, is over...........parents stopped
listening to the anti-spanking misinformation years
ago............about all that's left is you running around your silly
little dog lot like some hyperactive yappy toy fox
terrier..............except as a yappy noise-maker, you're useless when
it comes to protecting children.............

]:^< runs around her dog lot barking as usual................

0:->07 Jun 2006 06:06
> the more you write, the crazier you get...............2005 was the
> watershed year for domestically produced
> pseudoephedrine.............the continued importation of
> pseudoephedrine from mexico only serves to underscore the failure of
> the war on drugs...............

What did I post that would be in disagreement with that?

> ]:^< runs around her dog lot barking like a meth-crazed chicken
> little.............

In other words, you have nothing to debate, but a lot to say.

We know. Try to get some rest.

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maggie_smythman@yahoo.com07 Jun 2006 03:50
the more you write, the crazier you get...............2005 was the
watershed year for domestically produced
pseudoephedrine.............the continued importation of
pseudoephedrine from mexico only serves to underscore the failure of
the war on drugs...............

]:^< runs around her dog lot barking like a meth-crazed chicken
little.............

0:->06 Jun 2006 15:00
> the real drug epidemic in the united states isn't meth..............it
> comes from abuse of alcohol, use of tobacco, and popping prescription
> medications like candy.................

All problems.

The last is the most serious of all. Unquestionably. But YOU don't know
why, and YOU don't provide proof.

I, in fact, posted recently that the state asst dir of substance abuse
planning had told me that very same thing. Prescription drugs are the
most serious problem, but not far ahead of meth as it turns out.

I'd like to assume you post the above because you really care, observer,
something you have never done in the past.

In that vein here's a question for you:

Would you want your doctor, should you have a suporrating rash on your
butt, a compound fractured broken finger, severe high blood pressure,
and gangrene in your left foot, to treat the first three and ignore the
last?

Well, meth is gangrene already  UP TO YOUR a.s, dummy.

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maggie_smythman@yahoo.com06 Jun 2006 03:37
the real drug epidemic in the united states isn't meth..............it
comes from abuse of alcohol, use of tobacco, and popping prescription
medications like candy.................

Doug04 Jun 2006 11:51
> abc's primetime did a june 1 story on "the crisis of the foster care
> system"..............among abc's conclusions were 52 percent of foster
> children suffered from post-traumatic stress (a rate twice as high as
> soldiers returning from war).............thirty percent of the homeless
> have been in foster care............ twenty-five percent of those in
> prison are foster care alumnus

Hi, maggie,

Former and present foster children represent the most endangered population
in this country.

Child welfare experts contend that the only way to reduce the abuse in
foster care and the very poor outcomes for former foster children is to have
less foster care.  And reform movements are underway in many states and, on
the federal level, to place less children into state custody and release
foster children to their families earlier.

Currently, the vast majority of children removed from their families were
not abused.  69,000 of children placed in foster care in 2003 were removed
from families CPS workers themselves unsubstantiated for risk of or actual
neglect/abuse.  These non-victims represent 30% of the foster care
population.  The majority of those who were substantiated were found to be
at risk of neglect or neglected.  Of those children substantiated as victims
of abuse, the majority were substantiated because they were "at risk" of
abuse, not actually abused.

............. like welfare, foster care
> is intergenerational (children growing up in foster care can become
> mothers with children in foster care........... "the highest ranking
> federal official in charge of foster care, wade horn of the department
> of health and human services, is a former child psychologist who says
> the foster care system is a giant mess and should just be blown
> up"............

The most vocal of foster care critics are professionals who are directly
involved with it.  Dr. Horn is one of the players in CPS reform efforts.

."there are no provisions for treatment, prevention,
> family support, or aging out - just for supporting things as they
> are"..........that status quo costs taxpayers $22 billion a year and
> works out to $40,000 a year to keep a child in foster
> care

The total cost of raising the child takes up about $14,000 of that.  Foster
children's medical, dental and mental health needs are covered by Medacaid.
The remaining $26,000 goes to principals and workers in the child welfare
industry itself.  Administrative costs are many times much higher than 2/3
of the funding going into foster care, although 66% is the general rule.
For each foster child, there is a battery of GALS, social service workers,
state caregivers, case managers, mentors, partridges, pear trees and the
trees in which they roost.

....................beyond abc's findings, the per annum cost per
> child in foster care would keep a child in a good boarding
> school............

....And pay for their college.

The overcrowded and abusive foster care system described by ABC news became
that way because of what the Pew Commission calls "the perverse funding
incentive" provided state CPS agencies to remove children from their
families.  Federal Title IV-E Social Security Funding currently flows to the
states on the basis of how many poor children CPS takes into custody.  As
long as the child stays in foster care, the state agencies pull down the
uncapped, on demand Title IV-E funding.

As the result of the Pew Commission report, Congress is currently at work to
remove the strings to Title IV-E funding.  The money will become a capped
entitlement to the states, allowing CPS agencies to decide for themselves
how to spend the money. This will cut the foster population by as much as
80% across the country.

The reform legislation, partially because of Dr. Wade's support, will soon
be passed by Congress.  This is the reform legislation the Organization of
American Counties and CPS attempted to defeat through a lobbying campaign
about the Meth "epidemic."

Meanwhile, individual states have reduced their foster care poplulation by
applying for and being granted exclusions from Title IV-E funding
restrictions.  California, Iowa and other states were just granted Title
IV-E waivers.  We can expect the state that harbors close to half of the
nation's foster children to reduce the population of state wards by 50% over
the next three years.  Mamouth reductions in foster care populations have
occurred in Illinois, Oregon and other states granted Title IV-E waivers in
the past.

It won't be long, now.

maggie_smythman@yahoo.com02 Jun 2006 08:25
abc's primetime did a june 1 story on "the crisis of the foster care
system"..............among abc's conclusions were 52 percent of foster
children suffered from post-traumatic stress (a rate twice as high as
soldiers returning from war).............thirty percent of the homeless
have been in foster care............ twenty-five percent of those in
prison are foster care alumnus............. like welfare, foster care
is intergenerational (children growing up in foster care can become
mothers with children in foster care........... "the highest ranking
federal official in charge of foster care, wade horn of the department
of health and human services, is a former child psychologist who says
the foster care system is a giant mess and should just be blown
up"............."there are no provisions for treatment, prevention,
family support, or aging out - just for supporting things as they
are"..........that status quo costs taxpayers $22 billion a year and
works out to $40,000 a year to keep a child in foster
care....................beyond abc's findings, the per annum cost per
child in foster care would keep a child in a good boarding
school............

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