Family Forum / Parenting / Spanking / December 2005

....I posted referrences to Dr. Thomas Gordon's Parent Effectiveness
Training, a totally NON-punative parenting methology?
http://www.gordontraining.com/familyresearch.html
[[[ Just a few of the studies. Note that CP is NOT replaced with other

....and you ain't seen nothin' yet.
The leader of this activist group is a Christian, too.
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=4286817&nav=9qrx

After a Jasper County, Georgia her 8th grader found a video camera
taping in the school bathroom and removed it, the school district threw
the bureaucratic equivalent of a temper tantrum. In response, the
student's mother created a website devoted to educator peeping toms.

Does the use of punishment enforce the parents' sense of ethics upon
their children?
If, instead of the use of punishment, children are encouraged to judge
and choose better

What is it that the spanking compulsives fear in this ng?
Could it be their claim and the resulting challenge that parents are
the best judge of what is abusive and what is not, responded to with
this question:

I need some help on this.  My brother and sister in law sent their son(will
be 3 in January) over to say with me for a few weeks.  I'm really good with
kids.  In the last few months he has really been acting up and throwing
tantrums.  I've spent a lot of time with him and he has ...

I often try to practice the dictum: turn the coin over.
If one side is right, why can't there be something "right" on the
other?
  http://robtshepherd.tripod.com/jefferson.html

Despite all the propaganda of how well things are going, the fact is
that America's schools have an unnecessarily high turnover in teachers.
The burnout rate is phenomenal.  Difficulties range from chronic
health problems among faculty to teachers popping stress pills as if

In my spare time, I write reasonably articulate posts to which some
moron insists on responding.  The fun part is that he or she has to
read what I write in order to respond.
Meanwhile, after being warned by a couple of readers to avoid the

Find some environment where a parent can *legally* spank an 11-year-old
for misbehaving.
Next, find a parent within the above environment who can legally spank
can *legally* spank an 11-year-old but, instead, chooses some

Outgoing Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warns of severe
economic consequences if record federal budget deficits continue.  He
does not mention that the Fed will stop reporting the M3 money supply
in early 2006.

The real problem with paddling in American schools isn't so much the
paddling as who does it.  Teachers in America no longer come from the
family next door.  Administrators are even more remote.
Even in states that permit paddling, parents know about as much about

For over 30 years Roe v. Wade has been the law of the land.  Radical
feminists applauded it as a great victory for women.  They pointed to
it as proof as to how the world had changed.  There was a bright new
day dawning and feminists were sure that *they* were going to run the

An 8th grader in Georgia found a video camera taping in the boy's
restroom.  Thinking his privacy violated, he removed the camera, took
it home, and showed his mother.
The boy's mother called the principal, who suspended the boy for theft

2 paragraphs from a USA Today story by Wendy Koch:
"In courtrooms nationwide this month, at least seven women - four of
them teachers - have been charged or sentenced for having sex with
boys...